Rep grinds: Too much, too little, or just right?
by Elizabeth Wachowski 
Jan 25th 2007 at 11:12AM
We all knew the day would come when people ran out of valid things to complain about on the WoW Forums. Finally, it has arrived, with a level 21 draenei arguing that reputation grinds are too easy post-Burning Crusade, particularly the grind to get exalted with another race to get their mount. I can honestly say that the idea that the reputation grinds are too EASY has never crossed my mind -- and after doing the Cenarion Circle grind to revered, I know full well that the time when I complain about the ease of reputation gains will be the time when I call for the men in white coats to come take me away.
However, I have noticed that reputation is significantly easier to get in the Outlands. Killing mobs in dungeons will get you a good amount of reputation with someone, somewhere, and I've hit honored with Sporeggar, Cenarion Expedition, and Thrallmar without doing most of the repeatable quests.
I think they've made reputation grinds easier because of the fiasco of Cenarion Circle rep, and what a giant pain that was for everyone. Plus, according to the oft-quoted Raid Attunement Chart, you're going to need to be revered with five factions and friendly with another to even step into the Battle of Mount Hyjal. If each of those grinds was as bad as Cenarion Circle or Timbermaw Hold, people would give up halfway through and go PVP. Heck, I'm feeling like giving up and going to PVP just looking at it, and I hate PVP. And if you really feel like doing an old-school rep grind, there will probably be some Outlands version of the Wintersaber mount to slowly suck out your soul and leave you a hollow shell of a human being.
What do you think about the new reputation grinds? Are you just getting what you can as you go along and plan to go back later for the Hyjal attunement, or are you putting everything into getting revered now so you can forget about it later?
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Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, The Burning Crusade, Factions
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Kahja Jan 25th 2007 11:29AM
To be honest I have fun doing rep grinds...
Cruxianna_Akama_Alliance Jan 25th 2007 12:05PM
I find most rep grinds boring as hell. Especially the CC and Timbermaw ones. Of course at the time I had to do them everyone in my guild had already done them so finding a good mage faction farm could not be found at all for me. As a priest, popping things one at a time just for 1-5 points of faction is almost as bad if not worse than sitting around, drinking a beer and fishing..
Baluki Jan 25th 2007 11:43AM
Man, I STILL haven't gotten Exalted with CC or AD, and I worked at that a LONG time. I was even clearing AQ40 and killing a few bosses in Naxx on a regular basis.
From what I hear, the new rep grinds are too easy, and the old ones were too hard. If they could maybe adjust them all to somewhere in the middle, that'd be fine with me.
Zaud Jan 25th 2007 1:03PM
I went out of my way to get Honred with the Aldor right away, so I could have access to the shoulder enchants (before I found out you needed that damn dust stuff for them. Bah.)
Otherwise, I'm just questing to 70, doing the odd instance run when I can assemble the right guild members to do it. I'm not wearing myself out on instances now, since I'll see enough of them all when I'm 70.
I'll try and hit Exalted with Aldor and Honor Hold in the end.
Gurei Jan 25th 2007 12:04PM
Some people is just masochist to want things hard way,id understand if someone says that proffesions are easy to level up,or grinding a weapon skill but reputations? their just not such a big pain now as before.
Sylythn Jan 25th 2007 1:06PM
I'm revered with two factions already and I'm not even a level 20 blood elf yet...I'm liking it! :)
Erik Jan 30th 2007 9:57AM
I've always been a firm believer that if you are doing quests and killing the enemies of the groups then you should get rep at a steady even rate.
They may be easier now, but do you really want to spend all your time grinding rep ?
Cylntmoon Feb 6th 2007 11:44PM
Killing 3000 furballs to get one enchant receipte makes me want to scream. Then move on to killing bones for AD, then move on to killing... Get the point! CC costs more gold than you can make just trying to get the items needed to earn buying power, after grinding rep from level 58-62. Please give us a break on old world rep grinding.
franz Jan 25th 2007 12:52PM
They increased the rep gain from all quests (especially starting area quests) a couple patches ago, Nov. I think. No-one really noticed because most people didn't make new characters until the new races came out.
crsh Jan 25th 2007 4:08PM
I think Blizz has tried to adjust the tediousness of rep grinding in BC, at least from what I've seen so far; take Sporggar for instance, rep is easy to get, what is lacking however are the rewards (the stats on the gear suck).
Old pre-BC rep was awful, CC had some good rewards but hitting exalted was a major pain; for example, my rogue made it through half of revered in a year of playing and gave up, his weapons were already much better than the exalted dagger he could get. Another one that was plain awful was Thorium Bro, where you litterally had to BUY your way through for enchants and patters, you could grind it with kills per se.
There are plenty of factions to grind rep with for whatever reward you desire; on my rogue, Scryers have a very good off-hand dagger, but I'll never bother to grind Cenarion Expedition rep because it's all druid stuff.
Prauche Jan 25th 2007 1:08PM
Yes, I took my lvl 60 Tauren Hunter out to the Orc/Troll starting area and did every single one of the beginner quests (while avoiding all the people asking me for free stuff/gold) about 6 weeks ago and got a TON of Org rep. Was nice. Suppose I should do the same with UC. Something to do sometime when you're bored and your guild isn't doing anything serious.
James Jan 25th 2007 1:08PM
The new reputation is easy to get. I'm in Nagrand now, and virtually every mob to kill for a quest gives you faction, and every quest you turn in gives faction.
It's not like Timbermaw where your only option is beads. It's more like the City reps (Ogrimmar, Stormwind, etc.) where every regular quest you do gives rep, and the mobs for those quests usually give rep.
oldbear Jan 25th 2007 1:33PM
I took my lvl30 Orc warrior to the undead starting area and started grinding for rep all the way through Hillsbrad and into the highlands now. I'm now lvl 38 and just a few cloth turn-ins away from having my undead horse. It only took a few hours of questing to get to where I was actually gaining XP - and I got a cool skull shield too. It was fun, and I got to help some lowbies with the harder quests (just passing on the favors I received when I started).
infection Jan 25th 2007 1:50PM
i really can't understand how people expect them to moderate this. you have on one side.. people that lvl up to 70 in 3 days. this is not the normal players. then you have the actually normal players with jobs and a life that are mostly all still in the range of 64 to 67.
the no life kids get rep way to fast and makes blizzard put a hardcore cap on getting it (CC in silithus) then everyone complains. next i see BC come out, and now this site is publishing that it just may be to easy.
i would like to know what % of the wow population it is to easy for. the 20 hour a day playing wow account, or the normal account that plays 4 to 5 a day.
next thing you know the rep will be nerf'd back to CC because of post like these and screw people over that dont have a 70 in 28 hours.
Melf Jan 25th 2007 2:53PM
I have personally loved the amount of rep and the fact that it doesn't seem like a "grind". The Repeatable Quest for Cenarion Expedition . . . plant parts . . . that comes from just doing the OTHER QUESTS. I love how I am running around and killing mobs and that these things are dropping and aren't heavily farmed.
Also, the rep is needed if you are a crafter of any sort. I mean, the trainer stops giving me new Leatherworking recipes at 350, but there are dozens more that are rep-based and extremely helpful (aside from the obvious aldor/scryer ones). This rep feels just about right to me. I mean think about it . . . if you single handedly went and defeated all of the named mobs in a zone PLUS saved an entire race from extinction (Sporeloks), shouldn't you be Honored amongst those people anyway?
Halicante Jan 25th 2007 2:42PM
That raid attunement chart still scares the crap out of me, fyi. I don't see how I'll ever finish it and be able to raid with my guild while keeping my job and a semblance of a real life.
sigh. It's depressing.
Y3ti Jan 25th 2007 2:55PM
you call 4-5 hours a day "normal"???
Yachy Jan 25th 2007 3:15PM
That's what I was thinking... 4-5 hrs a day is a ton for me and never happens
Avonturier Jan 25th 2007 3:46PM
I agree that the grind for the other faction mounts is now too easy. When my human mage turned 60 I decided that I wanted him to have a tiger mount. In between BG's I got exalted just by doing the lowby quests in Teldrassil, Darkshore and Ashenvale. I wouldn't be surpised if all those new Draenei and Bloodelves will be exalted with at least two factions by the time they hit 60.
Blacksabre Jan 25th 2007 3:55PM
One of our guildies wanted an elephant mount, so she went after it. She needed to be exalted with somebody to get it, and was riding her elephant in like six days from the opening of BC. Now, she did it farming runecloth, and some of us pitched in to help her, but still, that was a BUTTLOAD of runecloth.
So was it too easy? Naah, it was nmerely possible...which CC and a few other old ones pretty much weren't.
With all the new rep factions to get, they SHOULD be easier, in any case.
Black