Guildwatch: Spartans! Tonight, we dine in.. Moroes' room!

Man I hate that Moroes. My guild is so, so close to finishing him off, but our shackles are breaking, our Hunter's trap is resisting, or the aggro is wonky somewhere down the line. But don't worry, faithful readers, we'll get him. Prepare for glory!
Meanwhile, it's Tuesday, and here's your weekly fill of Drama, Downed, and Recruiting news from around the realms. Remember, this column lives and dies on your tips, so if you've got news, we want it: drop a note to wowguildwatch@gmail.com. Clicky linky to read this week's GW.
DRAMA
- A tipster writes in to say that his guildleader quit the game, leaving his guild without a GM. That's not so interesting, actually, but what I found interesting is this: his GM was female. Call me a chauvinist pig, but I never thought about it before-- how many women are out there leading guilds? In fact, now that I think about it, my guild definitely has a few female officers. Are women more or less inclined to put their own guilds together?
- Kristianna, formerly of Luna Wolves on Tanaris-H, sends a warning about them-- she says when she asked for help running her instances, the guild blew her off, and then GM sent her a message: "If you need help with instances, maybe you need to rethink if you should be playing WoW at all." Wow. Last I checked, there weren't any solo instances in the game, pal. But there is a happy ending. Kristi promptly /gquit (along with all her alts), and found a guild where they're actually, y'know, helping her. Good for you.
- If you're on the Venture Company-A, a tipster sends a note to watch out for Spartacus and Usbok. They up and left a guild there "for no reason," and supposedly bad mouthed the guild. And not only that-- they also stole money and mats from the guild. Apparently, they've been kicked out of four guilds already. This isn't madness-- THIS IS SPARTAAAA!
- From a deleted topic on the forums: Carthert of Audentes Fortuna Iuvat to Conviction, both on Steamwheedle Cartel, after they poached his main tank: "[You're] a bunch of insensitive, shady, plotting, manipulative, obsessive little boys. So sit there, pop your pimples, change your diapers and refill your caffeine drips."
- More BC drama: Avatars of Vengeance on Kargath-A is going down in flames. After lots of A/B team drama and guild members who were pressed to get attuned but never invited when they were, the GM logged out of his account "forever" on Sunday, and officers started /gquitting after that. Now that is a guild meltdown. My professional opinion: the GM and his 9 friends will reform and stick to one successful Kara group.
- Anathema Sky on Agamaggan-H, dived into Karazhan and demolished the place-- they cleared everything but Netherspite, Illhoof, and Netherbane. Grats!
- The Brothers Gr|M (did I get that right? I didn't know Blizz allowed weird punctuation in guild names) on Laughing Skull-A EU downed Attumen, Moroes (above), and the Maiden on their "first EVAR week of raiding." So what's their secret? "Keep all your currently attuned players well informed, up to date with progression and look at who you need to get attuned to get 1 group into Karazhan. Concentrate on attuning or recruiting just the classes you need for 1 group and more will follow." So start with the basics, build slowly and surely, and make things come together. Who knew?
- Gnome Ravagers of Terenas-H downed Hakkar and Jin'do. Hey man, good for them-- at least someone is enjoying the old content. They say they had a few 60s along and even a 57, but exactly how many people did you all run it with?
- PreLoaded on Dethecus is rolling right along-- they downed Gruul, and have two groups that have finished Kara up to Nightbane. Vashj is next, they say. Good luck, guys.
- SG of Bleeding Hollow-H finished off Doomwalker for a server first. Very nice!
- Balance on Bronzebeard 7.5 manned Azuregos (the .5, they say, was a 65 Shaman). That's impressive and all, guys, but next time, try soloing him.
- xyzzy is recruiting on Frostmourne (faction?) for endgame raiding starting with Kara, says their GM (he reads this website, so you know he's good people)
- The Cult is a new guild on Alonsus-A EU that wants to start end-game raiding-- at the old endgame. They're looking for levels 30+, and they're going to begin raiding at the beginning, starting with BRD and UBRS, through ZG and up into MC, BWL, and Naxx. Great idea, hope it works out.
- Past Redemption on Aszune EU is looking for "1 Priest (holy/disc),1 Paladin (holy) and 1 Druid (resto)"
- Blood and Thunder on Farstriders-H wants some cool, friendly, and fun people to raid with them. They promise fun instance runs, maybe even a little roleplay (with emphasis on the "play," they say), and a look toward eventually endgame raiding, without all the pressure. Sounds good.
- Chaoz Gild (winner of this week's Best Guild Name award-- I love it!) wants players of all levels to help their members out. This is an interesting strategy: help out a lowbie in the guild, and you get made officer.
- Reckless is a high level endgame guild on Blackwing Lair-A that's looking for help with Vashj.
- Pain on Spinebreaker-H is recruiting (and offering to key you) for Karazhan.
- Scions of Dark Realms on Proudmoore-H wants 70s only for endgame raiding, and this is interesting: retnubs, they say, need not apply. Harsh.
Filed under: Guilds, Instances, Humor, Guildwatch, Bosses






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
wowtard Apr 3rd 2007 11:08PM
when she asked for help running her instances
So he/she joined a guild and promptly started asking high lvl people to run her through instances for XP/loot, then got told off. So what? I tell off noobs begging me to run them through instances all the time.
Chris M Apr 3rd 2007 11:08PM
For the HORDE! On BLEEDING HOLLOW!!
That was my battle cry. I'm not a member of SG there, but I see them in Undercity and such. I'm sure that counts for something.
Chris
Shat Apr 3rd 2007 11:58PM
I've never heard of a female GM, really. The only woman in my guild is the girlfriend of one of our priests. It's really the only reason we tolerate an elemental shaman >
psdavies Apr 4th 2007 12:07AM
Saga > Preloaded
Jim A Apr 4th 2007 12:29AM
My guild leader is female... it's pretty cool :)
Devilmachine Apr 4th 2007 12:40AM
About a quarter of our officers are females, and they are generally the better ones to deal with too.
ps. this section wins every time
Ravven Apr 4th 2007 1:33AM
Our guild leader is female - there are quite a few of us in the guild who are.
micah Apr 4th 2007 2:07PM
My guild leader is female, she's awesome!
Twinny Apr 4th 2007 3:54AM
Yay my guild got mentioned!! thanks!
We downed the wolf later that week and only really got 1 shot at currator due to every bug in karazhan known to man!
Earindur
daniel Apr 4th 2007 4:40AM
maybe there's some meaning to "Chaoz Gild" that i don't understand but mispelled or just plain stupid guild names amuse me to no end.
Kristianna Apr 4th 2007 6:11AM
@1
Actually, I was a charter member/officer of the guild, was asking for on-level help *or* run-throughs, whatever was easier for them. and there was quite a lot more to it than that. So, maybe you oughta think before speaking, sweetie.
Here's the whole thing as I sent it in:
==
Wanted to send in a warning, since you guys are practically begging for guild trivia.
I was a charter member of the . Horde, Tanaris. http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#guild-info.xml?r=Tanaris&n=Luna+Wolves&p=1
I was also the main recruiter. We had a guild recruiting competition where the GM promised 25G to first place, 15 to second, and 10 to third, and the contest ran two weeks. As a matter of fact, it's still posted here.
When the GM (http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Tanaris&n=Chynook ) finally logged on two days after the contest expired, I asked him the status of the contest. He said "It kinda fizzled because no one else participated".
Right.
So, I said, ok, forget the prize (which would have apparently been 25g) , how about just a bit of help catching up on instance quests? I've been working a crapload of hours and was really behind on my instances. He made some non-commital comments and said that he didn't think he'd have time anytime soon and didn't like the instances I needed. To give reference at the time, I asked for help with any of SM, RFK, RFD, Uldaman, Mara, or ZF, and asked for him or any of the on-level officers to help out.
I was a little miffed at the brush-off, so I asked one of our other officers via /w what the deal was and to get some feedback on if I was being unreasonable.
( http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Tanaris&n=Enxai )
He responded, and I quote: "If you need help with instances, maybe you need to rethink if you should be playing WoW at all."
Yeah. I don't think I even need to go into how asinine that statement is.
So, I politely told /g that I thanked them for the help they'd been, and /gquit. I logged onto one of my alts that was also in the guild to /gquit her, and saw Enxai telling people that I /gquit because "Chynook wouldn't run me through all my instances" right before he /gkicked me.
So, I would advise people to stay way clear of this little band - you won't get anywhere if you stay with them. I've joined a new guild and am already mostly caught up on my instancing.
Much Love to all,
-K
Rich Apr 4th 2007 6:18AM
My guild leader is female, though the other officers and raid leaders are all male.
Kristianna Apr 4th 2007 6:19AM
*facepalm* And I chose the wrong url to delete from my comment, making it look like I said I was a charter member of the Horde as opposed to the Luna Wolves.
*sigh*
Note to self: Sleep-deprived posting makes me a bad kitty.
~K
Anroth Apr 4th 2007 7:27AM
peeps forget about the pourpose of a guild...
but hey, most guilds are just a small group of friends and the rest is just trash members to fill raid spots...
Friggas Ring Apr 4th 2007 8:45AM
Did any of you fight Gruul last night? My guild on Dalvengyr-H one-shotted him because he only shattered once. I'm curious if the same thing happened to anyone else or if we were just lucky.
We were so pumped once we were done that we immediately flew to Karazhan to kill the first couple of bosses
Lunamiora Apr 4th 2007 9:53AM
From what I've seen there are more women playing WoW (and taking on leadership roles) than most people think. Half of our officers are women (including myself), and atleast a fourth of our guild is female, if not more.
Fetters Apr 4th 2007 9:59AM
Well, Kristianna, it certainly seemed like you had a legitimate reason to quit. Kinda sucks when your in a guild that refuses to help, right?
Tom(Olania) Apr 4th 2007 10:31AM
Chaos Gild is on Illidan-A. Msg me if you wish to take us up on that offer. Im Olania.
braydn Apr 4th 2007 10:50AM
The guild I belong to, Destined Souls on the Icecrown server, is a woman. She is older (i think late 40's early 50's) and she runs it like a guild "mom" so you feel like you have a family or sorts in the game, so the guild is more personal and friendly. When people act up she takes them into private chat in the game or on teamspeak to a private channel and works things out in real time to resolve the problems if and as they arise. The guild is therefore one of the largest on the server and turnaround is lower than in many other guilds. I think she does a pretty darned good job, as well as the officers she has to help her out.
Dave Apr 4th 2007 12:06PM
Hmm, I kinda wonder if that's my female GM that quit that you're talking about...
The whole un-interesting story is that she more or less volunteered to run a new guild after an old guild dissipated (and I should have seen the signs before we started the new one) even though she wasn't really interested in being in charge (and I was, which was confusing to me to say the least but I didn't wanna cause drama) and was being "recruited" by her drama inducing friends in other guilds at the time anyway.
Long story short, we were slowly working towards getting a good karazhan-worthy group or two together, and I suppose the shitbags who kept attempting to get her in their guild (she's a healer, so duh if you're "friends" with one of those you want to pester her away from people she's known for a long time right?) just wouldn't give up... and the explanations I was given were inconsistent illogical and confusing to say the least so it's all left a really bad taste in my mouth. Oh, and she gave the guild leadership to a guy from her old guild that hadn't even joined the new guild until last week. Instead of any of the existing officers who were there from the start.
Blah blah blah. It's all enough drama and bullshit that I've given up on raiding and maybe the whole game in general. I severely dislike a game structure that rewards guilds for poaching friends from a guild, while simultaneously saying "you can't be friends anymore since you're not in their guild and you can't raid anymore and they're going to spend all their time with them rather than you because we're full on your class but we totally wanna poach your guild leader healer".
total bullshit I say. And anyone who poaches another guild by repeatedly pestering them into joining your guild is an amazingly dick move and I'm pretty disgusted by the idea.