BigRedKitty: Bad hunters are born, not made

Each week, Daniel Howell contributes BigRedKitty, a column with strategies, tips and tricks for the hunter class sprinkled with a healthy dose of completely improper, sometimes libelous, personal commentary.
Back in the days when 60 was the echelon, Molten Core was a big deal, and 72% of all hunters weren't Marksman, BigRedKitty had a different role among our peers on Khaz Modan. We were a simple Hunter Class Leader in a nice guild with many friends, both hunters and of the lesser classes, and providing large quantities of sustained ranged DPS was the simple order of the day.
And then one day, we went into a Lower Blackrock Spire 10-man raid, but we took another 60 hunter from the guild with us. We were a 0/21/30 Survivalist and our hunter cohort was a 5/31/15 Marksman. He used a very fast bow, we used a very slow gun. He was a night elf, we were, of course, a dwarf. He had a wolf, we had our favorite cat, Hobbes. Opposite sides of the same class, as it were.
Now this hunter loved to pug. He pugged everything, and I mean everything. As such, loot drops for him were an everyday occurrence. Eventually he had a Beaststalker Set, whereas we never saw the chest piece of shoulders drop, and it took BRK 25 runs to Warmaster Voone to get the Beaststalker's Gloves.
Dang. Voone... I need to kill him again. Just out of spite.
Anyway, by the time we finished the Troll boss – the guy who would "frog you", remember him? – we were very much ahead in the damage meters and our "uber-geared" Marksman was way down the list. His solution: my DamageMeters were broken. Of course, six of us had the most current version, we were all syncing, and we all had the numbers the same way. Still, it was obviously our fault.
He asked, very haughtily, how anybody with my gear – the rare PvP set - could possibly out-DPS him. Of course, the explanation was simple...
- He opened with Aimed Shot, every time, never letting the tank get aggro.
- He never Feigned Death but let the mob run right up in his grill.
- When the mob was upon him, he would melee with his dual-wield Dal'Rend set.
- And all the while he was "tanking", we were never grabbing aggro because when our crits got out of hand, we smacked Feign Death and let the "tank" have aggro back.
Simply put, I said, a Marksman melee hunter is not going to out-DPS a ranged Survivalist Hunter. Don't be upset that you're not out-DPSing any the non-healers; your technique stinks, and your skills as a hunter both suck and blow. Frankly, you're embarrassing yourself and the entire Hunter community.
He scoffed, claimed the DamageMeters were broken, and continued his mastery of the dual-wield swords. As far as I know, he continues to this very day with this method. He's probably a 70 somewhere annoying the tanks in Shadow Laboratory with his antics.
He was a lost cause, but the incident made us think. Did all hunters have to learn the wrong tactics, "master" them, then keep befouling the Hunter reputation long into the end-game? Perhaps not. As the Hunter Class Leader, it seemed that it was our responsibility to try to fix this problem. Thus began our School for Young Hunters, and a great many of students we trained.
We would pick them up around level 20 and take them to the Wetlands.
"Kill that crocolisk," we would say. In their pet would be sent, Aimed Shot would fly, aggro the hunter would grab, in their face the croc would run, and of course, meleeing they would commence. No, we would say. That's totally Wrong.
"But it's what I've always done..." they would whine, and we would sigh.
We would then explain the concept of Aggro Control and how it made a good hunter the most powerful character in the game, and a bad hunter the most reviled. We would tell them to send their pet again, but just watch him fight, notice how he didn't die, and appreciate that the pet actually did good damage. Then we would tell them to start with Serpent Sting and continue with sufficient damage to bring the croc down, but not going so crazy with DPS as to pull the croc of the pet. Down the croc would go, the pet would run back to the young hunter's undamaged side, and unanimously, the trainee would be shocked and amazed. It never took more than one croc for the trainees to know that they had been on he wrong path.
Single mob combat would progress to fighting two at one time, by employing a Freezing Trap. Drop a Freezing Trap, send your pet into a two-pack of mobs, open with Multi Shot so one of the two mobs would run at you and get frozen. Finish the first mob, then take the second. This taught the basics of crowd control and focused fire, too. At this point, we'd send them into the world again, along with a nice feed pet macro, and ask them to keep to tell us when they hit level 35.
We would introduce proper hunter behavior in an instance by taking them through Scarlet Monastery. We would give them the basic Pull Shot Macro using Arcane Shot Rank 1, and teach them how to execute a "Pull with Feign Death" to allow the tank the grab aggro easily. When we reached the Cathedral, we'd add a Freezing Trap Pull as the linked mobs were in our way. It was the rare tank that didn't appreciate having their mobs served to them on a silver platter; no guns or crossbows, no running, just stand and Taunt when the mob was pulled right to their feet. And the hunters, the joy in their voices when they would trap and pull two mobs, made us smile every time.
After Scarlet Monastery, Kiting lessons were assigned. These took place at Refugee Point in the Arathi Highlands. We would teach the hunters how to kill raptors without using their pet, and if the raptor touched you, you failed. Trainees were required to do figure eights through Refugee Point with their kited mob. When they finished it off at the feet of the gryphon master, we would celebrate their graduation.
At this point, basic lessons ended. Frankly, despite the skills they learned, many of our hunters were very happy not to have to "perform" for their class leader anymore; none of the others guildies had to do tricks to satisfy the insane desires of their class officer. But we did have advanced lessons, and some hunters took us up on the offer to teach them.
When a hunter reached level 51, they were offered to be taught basic PvP strategies with a walk-through of Alterac Valley. How many hunters we watched get their Ice Blood Spears, we've forgotten. Not all continued in those battlegrounds, but for many it was their first experience and they loved it enough to keep going back to PvP in all the battlegrounds.
"DAMH! I was guarding the Stables and I had the Freezing Trap right behind me, when this Undead Rogue tried to ambush me! He was frozen so I went to range and sent my pet, then kited him like one of those Arathi raptors! He never touched me!" And we would get a beer and toast their victory.
There was more. We introduced them to theorycrafting, build and gear analysis, and how to lead a raid. Jumpshooting and advanced PvP techniques were the culmination of several weeks of training, and although few went so far as to learn how to defend against a horde push into Dun Baldar, or win a face-off against a Tauren Shamen at Frostwolf Graveyard. Yet we never had more fun than when we watched someone learn, adapt, put into practice something we taught them, and succeed wildly.
We believe that the current statistics show that the hunter class is, if not the single most-played of all the classes, one of the most heavily played. What this means is that it also houses a great proportion of the people who don't know how to play their class. BRK has run with level 70 hunters who display a tremendous lack of understanding of some of the most basic of hunter techniques.
Just for amusement's sake, let's pretend we have a group of ten hunters. Could we agree that three of them are total goofs, right off the bat. Opposing this, three are able to make sense of how the class is supposed to be played, have very successful careers and years of fun.
But we believe statistics would should that the four of them have never done an ounce of research on just how to get the most out of their character. Just look at the Survival talent distribution of a 23/21/17 spec an old guildie of ours sports. That pic isn't something we made up; it's from a level 70 hunter we know and have grouped with in Shadow Labs. He's a very nice guy and we like him a lot. He could date our sister, (if she weren't happily married). But we're worried that unless an intervention is scheduled, he wouldn't find a clue on how to play a hunter if he were covered in clue-musk in the middle of clue mating season.
You're reading WoW Insider. You probably have a handle on how to play a hunter, do great in instances, top the DPS charts, have many friends who admire you, and have a clean, fresh scent. But watch these comments and the forums for things like this:
"I melee 90% of the time"
And remember, being a bad Hunter is the form into which we are all born.
Daniel Howell continues his quest to ban approximately 1,172 terrible Hunter talent specs he has seen on the Armory as the Damh and Hobbes hunter-pet duo extraordinaire known to lore as BigRedKitty. More of his theorycrafting and slanderous belittling of the lesser classes can be found at bigredkitty.blogspot.com.
[Fan art by Moony]
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 6)
SlowRoasted May 9th 2007 3:14PM
Your posts are worthless and you are annoying as hell. Someone boot this writer off the blog plz.
ObtuseMoose May 9th 2007 3:18PM
I know, I know; in your intro post, you explained the the third person stylization as you and your pet being a pair, but honestly, consider dropping the "Royal We" thing. It makes reading your otherwise really well presented information cumbersome to sort out at times. IMO of course.
DCoE May 9th 2007 3:21PM
Get it right Snotty..it wasn't a wolf..it was the black lion from the barrens..I know this cuz i wanted to kill him and his stupid non-aggro holding lion everytime the mob he was supposed to be handling came after my squishy self..>.
Pritchard May 9th 2007 3:21PM
Man I thought I was the only one annoyed by this. Read the first paragraph before I tired.
Crescence May 9th 2007 3:23PM
Daniel Howell has finally given me a reason to respect the hunter class.
desfaber May 9th 2007 3:25PM
Please, someone inform the police that SlowRoasted is being held at gun point and forced to read articles he doesn't like.
Good post. I've see a few of these hunters, but I'm amazed they'd progress far with those tactics.
Predatorprime May 9th 2007 3:25PM
@1
I don't see you submitting anything worth while. If you don't like what someone writes do keep reading it. Don't waste time and space bitching and moaning when no one gives a rats ass what your opinion is.
On a side note I find these posts to be interesting, as a newer player I find it helpful to read about other peoples screw ups.
Maedhras May 9th 2007 3:25PM
Awesome.
But one thing bothers me. I've always told my hunters to pull with the highest, most damaging shots they could (idealy an aimed shot followed by as many hard hitters as they could until the mob reached me) (I'm a warrior). And I see you teach yours to use arcane shot 1.
My reasoning is that taunt gives you all the threat of the highest person on the mob's list, + 1. So basicaly, you want the hunter to have as much threat as possible when the mob has reached the warrior. After the warrior has taunted for free, delicious threat, the hunter can FD, get back up, and right away go all out, along with all the other DPSers, as the warrior already has a head start (at the press of 1 button!).
Come to think of it, that tactic, with misdirection, makes me believe hunters were made mainly to be a cool class, but also to serve warriors and exist to make my life easier. I am pleased.
Seper May 9th 2007 3:28PM
I like your articles. Its nice to see other people explain to others how to play their class right. That freeze trap behind you in pvp is great as well. Never thought of that (i have a lvl 22 hunter).
I hope this blog gets more people like you on. ALOT of people do not know how to play their class. I usually tell them that fact straight out. Then offer my assistance.
Kudos to you :)
Maedhras May 9th 2007 3:28PM
A distracting shot following the aimed shot pull gives me even more threat. Oh the ease of it all.
dano May 9th 2007 3:31PM
lol @1.
awesome post
SirCasey May 9th 2007 3:29PM
Never having played a hunter past 14 I appreciated the article and hearing how they work. Thanks for sharing! I look forward to hearing more...
ratmaggot May 9th 2007 3:32PM
Excellent read. As a priest who has just started a hunter (dwarf, of course) in an effort to be a *good* hunter (unlike oh so many on my server), it's refreshing to read something more adult / useful / bitter / humourous than the crap you get on the forums.
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goatbird May 9th 2007 3:33PM
Ill agree that this is pretentious and poorly written.
MadMup May 9th 2007 3:33PM
I'm a Markmanship Hunter, but I was taught some of these techniques when I was starting out. It's rare that a mob will touch me, unless I'm trying to level my new weapon ability. Slap down a freeze trap, send in the pet, wait a bit for him to build aggro, and then start hammering with whatever I've got. Rarely will my pet lose aggro.
Thanks for the interesting read!
Pent May 9th 2007 3:33PM
very amusing post, I enjoy your weekly articles, just had to say that incase you read the first comments... who of which should be ashamed for posting...
When I first ventured into WoW during launch I made a couple of alts but the one class I enjoyed playing the most was a hunter, since then I've only taken a hunter to 60, and rolled on a different server, but I plan on making the journey from 1-70 with the class eventually.. one of my favourite classes, also one of the "newbie" classes that you mentioned you see at 70 with horrible class skills, much like shamans, or maybe those two classes just stick out the most.
James May 9th 2007 3:33PM
SlowRoasted, you posted back in BRK's previous article complaining about him. Now, this tells me three possible things about you:
1. You enjoy making yourself miserable, and rather than stop reading BRK's articles, you keep reading. Sensible people don't subject themselves to things they don't like.
2. You didn't read the article at all and just wanted to post so you could cry.
And regardless of whether you're #1 or #2 (I'm betting #2, both literally and figuratively) you're definitely:
3. You enjoying crying and making a spectacle of yourself.
Jeff May 9th 2007 3:33PM
BRK did good, entertaining reading :)
Randomplayr May 9th 2007 3:41PM
I would like to point out that there is no right or wrong way to play a class; simply one persons strong opinion on how it should be done. I've played with a hunter that could not lose a duel and all he did was melee with his massive 2h-er. If anybody honestly believes that this is the "right" way to play a hunter you're a fool for taking a single person's perspective and thinking that this is the way.
The writing style is crappy as well, this writing honestly ruins my experience on wowinsider.
folas May 9th 2007 3:44PM
Nice article. I myself respecced to 0/0/61 to get to know the survival tree after an article on WoWInsider pointed out it was the least popular of the hunter trees. I like to do things differently and I strongly feel that there is a play style for every tree. You just need to try it and learn to adapt your play style to the build instead of complaining when the build you want to use does not fit your play style.