...and Mages and Warlocks too!
Recently, I wrote a post on Rogues having trade windows opened up on them without so much as a word. As I suspected, many other Rogues out there indeed have the same problem. Of course, many had their own ways of dealing with it like picking the box, but not hitting trade until there was a tip in the window. Another idea was just keeping all trades off in their options so that people couldn't open up trades with them in the first place. All of these are things that I've tried from time to time with varying levels of success. What I didn't expect, however, was the sheer amount of people who jumped in and brought up the similar plights that Mages and Warlocks face on a daily basis. As I've got a L59 Warlock and a L61 Mage, trust me when I say that I completetly understand and appreciate what you all go through with the requests you get. I'm not even able to portal others to Shattrath yet on my Mage, but anytime I'm playing her, I almost immediately get asked to open a portal there for someone anyway. Now, nobody has opened a trade window on me without asking and grunted out "food/water" as yet, but I've definitely gotten the tells demanding that I make food or water for them, as opposed to asking nicely.
As for my Warlock, I moved her to Outland a few days ago. Quite literally not two seconds after touching down in Thrallmar for the first time ever, I got a whisper asking me to summon someone to Shattrath. Never mind that I wasn't anywhere near Shattrath myself, and that I obviously couldn't summon someone solo. I let the person know that I was sorry, but I couldn't help them. The next thing that came back? A whisper insisting that I must summon them because I was currently the only Warlock on (late night, lower pop server) in the area who could do it and they had to get to Shattrath on their level twenty-something character. Again, I reiterated that I was sorry, but I couldn't do this. This third time, I was subjected to a lovely diatribe wherein my heritage, masculinity (har har) and mother's extracurricular activities were pointedly remarked upon. Needless to say, the population of my /ignore list grew by one, and I dare say that one level twenty-something Shaman out there may be seeing himself (herself?) in this story right about now. Or not.
The thing I wanted to say is this: I feel your pain, Mages and Warlocks. Personally, I will try to help if the request is polite enough and I am not in the middle of something that would otherwise prevent me from being able to help. But on the other hand, I don't think anyone likes being repeatedly asked for something after you attempt to decline politely. If people continue to ask, and somehow manage to get a "yes" after they've gotten repeated "no" answers, you can bet it's with extreme prejudice, and the annoying person's name is most likely going on someone's "will not help this person if all of Azeroth is on fire" list.
Being nice creates so much goodwill, and actually costs so much less time in the long run. Think about it this way: anyone who is nice likely won't have to ask lots and lots of Warlocks or Mages to get whatever it is they need -- they'll probably get it on the first try, so they can just head out for whatever they wanted to do that much sooner. And hey, there's one other side benefit to being cool to your fellow WoW players that many people wouldn't even think about. There obviously won't be any chance of ever winding up as the inspiration for a story here about people who should probably re-think their WoW social strategies.
Filed under: Mage, Warlock, Analysis / Opinion, Virtual selves, Odds and ends






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Mats Jun 3rd 2007 9:26AM
"Can you summon me to X-place" usually gets a "Sorry, did not train that spell" or "Sorry, not summoning spec"
Jason Jun 3rd 2007 9:28AM
The only time I get asked for a summon is when I'm in the middle of a quest in the farthest point away from any city/outpost. I'm amazed how persistent people are that they get upset that I won't help. Yes, let me drop whatever quest I was doing, ride back to town in the slim hope that there will be 2 people that are willing to help summon, which in my experience takes about 5-10 min to find. But thanks ever so much for a 1 gold tip, even tho I could have made much more if I had continued questing.
Shalkis Jun 3rd 2007 9:59AM
Pre-emptive anti-flame post:
When I decide to join a group with you, you'll get the whole package. DPS, crowd control, buffs, decursing, spellstealing, food, water, portals..
If you're not.. be patient. I might be waterbotting for someone else as well. Ask politely, and preferably offer some compensation. If you bring me a Rune of Portals or 20 silver, I'll make you a portal as soon as you get to wherever I am. I will not make deliveries, however.
ziggor Jun 3rd 2007 10:02AM
its quite simple really. when ever i am asked to summon or portal someone, i claim i'm either out of shards or regents. kills the issue on the spot and you never hear from them again:)
Jamus Jun 4th 2007 9:05AM
I will admit, I often ask Druids for a Mark of the Wild, BUT I always do it politely in hopes that will make the request more reasonable.
On the flip side of that, I always try to hand our MotW when I am playing my Druid to help balance things out a bit. Same thing goes for my Fort buff as a Priest...
Uppity70thWarlock Jun 3rd 2007 11:10AM
If anyone asks me to summon out of the blue, I reply with one of the following depending on my mood:
1. I'm soloing -- noone to assist, goodbye
2. I'm soloing -- how dare you ask without providing me with helpers, goodbye
3. Are you in my guild, allied guild, raid group? no? goodbye
4. /r welcome to my ignore list
5. /r 10g! (when they /r lol, I /ignore)...
After I /ignore, i usually /tell something outrageous so when they say something back, they know they're being ignored!
faceontoast Jun 3rd 2007 12:04PM
try using /dnd it doesn't get rid of the problem but it does help reduce it.
Funny messages such as for my shadow priest /dnd or I melt your face too. Tends to get a chuckle and me left alone.
juztuzp Jun 4th 2007 7:37AM
Nowadays the summon begging spam has reduced, atleast I get only couple whispers each week.
I get asked to instances more often. Whispers don't bother me anymore. I'll just answer with simple "no".
Theserene Jun 3rd 2007 1:30PM
I did get a level 20 demanding that I summon them to Shattrath.
I asked why and they said they 'needed to for a quest'. Err, like hell, there are no level 20 quests that require a trip to Shatt.
So I asked if they already had 2 other people in Shatt grouped that could assist with the summon and if they had the 2G I charge for this service to cover the cost of my flight.
To which I got a tirade of abuse back about how much of a 'noob' I was because warlocks can summon on their own without needing other people and that it is a free service because it uses no reagents.
My last response before putting this idiot on ignore was "I suggest you go and roll a warlock to get a better understanding of this spell before you ask others to do it. Also, you have no NEED to go to Shattrath.".
/ignore.
Halicante Jun 3rd 2007 1:49PM
I don't mind making ports in cities if people ask nicely. It's a pretty steady source of income for me. The best one was when a level 70 asked me for a port FROM Shattrath to org and tipped me 2 primal airs...ok retard lol.
I have gotten the FOOD WATER 60 OF EACH with an open trade window. Those people don't get shit. People who ask nicely will get it and most people are nice enough to tip.
I got a tell the other day from a level 65 in outlands asking me to port him to tanaris, where I was helping a friend who was getting pked while questing. How do you get to level 65 and not have a freaking clue how ports work?
Rich Jun 3rd 2007 1:56PM
I had a level 20 something warrior demand I summon them to Shatt. Of course, the good and kind person I was told to wait a minute while I hearth back there and find 2 people to help. I got my buddy and one of his guildies to help. We went down to the road leading to Hellfire Citadel and summoned him.
Needless to it was the funniest momente in WoW for the 3 of us. The summoning was over and at least 20 orcs swarmed him. Man, I got a hell of a tirade from him, but its his own fault for not checking where I was at. LMAO
Morien Jun 4th 2007 5:59PM
As a 70 mage who is always raiding, i find myself only really offended when one thing happens to me.
I'm sitting there, getting prepped for a raid or instance, and someone just opens trade. they don't say they want water, or how much... i just find it ludicrously rude. i can understand if i'm standing there conjuring the stuff, or if i've just asked who needs food or water. when it's out of nowhere, however, that party member uses their purchased water and food.
there are a few exceptions to this rule; if it's a guildy i like, they get the perishables regardless. i can also be convinced to spare a 10 stack if someone pleads for forgiveness.
Angelworks Jun 3rd 2007 2:40PM
When I was brand new to the game I used to summon people all over - especially the first time when someone gave me 2g. However I have to tell you in that short time when I would oblige - people that say they will tip - often don't. So I don't do it much... In fact I've gone as far as to tell people to get bent.
So noobs that need help being summoned - you can blame my lack of goodwill squarely on cheapskates.
Finnicks Daerkhiv Jun 3rd 2007 2:59PM
Exactly 8 times in my entire Warlocking career, the first time happening at level 20, the last happening at level 68, I've actually had people open up a trade window with me and whisper "HS plz". One rogue just opened the window and said nothing, as if he just expected me to pump out a HS automatically.
My responses have included:
"Sry, out of shards."
"2g."
"Only if you'll group with me and help me kill a mob to get a shard. Oh did I mention that we have to go all the way out Eastern Plaguelands for me to be able to make one?" (out of the two people I used this on, neither bit).
When the rogue opened a window and said nothing, I was like "Look fella, I can't make water. No magey. Warlocky." He says, "Um... u giv me HS." I'm like, "I'm sorry... Creates Healthstone requires a shard and another component." "wut lol no it doezt it just needs shard nub" "No, I'm afraid it also requires the magic word, which you failed to provide. Goodbye."
/ignore
I'm pretty nice about Summoning requests (if there's people around to help).
felunost Jun 3rd 2007 3:29PM
I don't think I have ever asked for HS form a lock - or for a summon form someone whos not in my guild - I will some times ask mages to pls make me some water if thay are not to busy.
I can see mages makeing a lot of gold selling ports to 60+ for example I need to go to the AH so I port form shatt to say Ironforge - with my ench macros out and no /w and all mu AHing done I port back to shatt, but then some one wants the ench so to stromwind to sell it. and 60 mins of lvl 3 asking for cash (I ask for 10 good resons before I give them gold, think one lvl 20 won me over with about 15 /w about gold farmers farming his famly and takeing his good ;p)
Shesra Jun 3rd 2007 4:19PM
it amazes me how many requests/demands for summons that I've gotten on my warlock. if I'm already in shatt and there are people around, okay, I'm generally nice about it. but when I was around 58 and first running around outland, I had someone go off on me because I wouldn't drop what I was doing, run to shatt myself, find a group, and summon him. hmm.
"sorry, I'm not summoning specced" has worked for me once or twice. heh.
Acceptable Risk Jun 3rd 2007 5:42PM
The thing I never understand is how people think that flipping out and insulting someone is going to get them what they want when it's so easy to just /ignore someone in this game. It's not like it takes any work for me to never hear from you again.
That said, I'll happily help someone out if they're polite. I'll summon/portal people all over the map if they're willing to wait for me to make it convenient for myself. And I'll hand out piles of food/water/healthstones if I'm asked nicely.
yodaa Jun 6th 2007 7:26PM
Just a simple auto respond addon that says. 3 gold if you don't like it go and reroll
wizbongre Jun 4th 2007 4:13AM
How about this...
I've been asked to summon people whilst strolling through Stormwind. Interesting considering I'm a warrior :(
Most annoying was last week, a level 12 outside the AH demanding money from everyone in the area with /s which is about normal. Ony then the complete pain kept spamming me with trade windows and asking for 5g!!
I've also had people demanding duels from me when in the middle of battles in Searing Gorge - great, can't you see I'm busy?! (Of course, I was a freakin' noob for declining and apparently attracted to the same sex...)
So, in summary, its not just specific class' - its anyone who is unfortunate enough to encounter some of the retarded scum who play WoW.
(Just my thoughts ;)
Zorrg Jun 4th 2007 6:35AM
I have 70 rogue, 70 lock and 65 mage, and my ignore lists are HUGE. If a person is really polite and nice I might conjur food and water for them on my mage, but by default I dont accept trades on my rogue and I usually just say "no" to "summon me plx?" whispers. If they are polite, I usually point out that there is a summoning stone in every zone in Outland and finding 2 guild mates to summon you shouldnt be that hard.