Breakfast Topic: Why is it so hard to help strangers?
When was the last time you helped someone you just met in-game? I don't just mean helped finish a quest, I mean helped at a time when no one else would. That's what Falcore on the European servers did.He met a very young player who was getting bullied in-game and out. Falcore decided what this kid needed was a little morale boost. He bought the player some in-game shiny (epic mount, etc.) and then talked him up to other players. The boost to this player's self-esteem was immeasurable. So much so that Falcore later received a letter from the player's father explaining the boy's situation and the effect of Falcore's selfless deeds.
Did Falcore have to do this? No. He could have been farming for his own epic mount or yet another exalted faction or whatever was on his to do list. Instead he took time out of his own schedule to help a stranger to no benefit of himself.
Now, I don't mean to guilt you fine readers for your in-game priorities. I know I often have so many things I want to do with my limited playtime that I ignore general calls for help. But I also remember that many of my long time MMOG friends are ones I randomly helped with a quest or a little cash or advice. And I remember how grateful I was when total and complete strangers would help me with a goal I felt was out of reach.
We see so much negativity in the general chat channels. Would it kill us to be helpful if someone asks a question that has a well known answer? Is it adding to our enjoyment of the game to ridicule others when they are honestly seeking advice? Is it so hard to put someone else's needs ahead of our own for an hour or two? The payoff is far better than coin and exp, I assure you.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Mystrana Jun 12th 2007 8:08AM
I think that helping out is nice, but in a world were in some zones (I'm thinking the barrens here), you have no garuntee that it's even going to be worth it (I'm thinking people who ask for help with one thing and then suddenly everything, or people who demand you help, or people you offer to help and they tell you 'I don't want a priest to help because priests suck.' Ouch).
Hey, if wow were real life, I'd be more prone to trying anyway, because then the few cases something productive happens would be well worth it. But in a video game? It's sometimes too close to call.
Still, that was a heartwarming opening story. It was nice to read. =)
way2trivial Jun 12th 2007 8:16AM
Snort... my biggest complaint with my mount? since reaching 40? I'm less likely to throw arcane intelligence around cause the remount is a pain..
I always throw it on EVERYONE for fun, walking around nordrassil realm. (alliance)
sirotrax Jun 12th 2007 8:19AM
One of my favorite things to do in WoW is hear from my younger sister's friend who started playing after seeing me play for several months. She'll message me with her progress and ask for help with some of the group quests, but not in a way that's a nuisance at all. Even my sister's started playing, though she's more occupied with collecting all the non-combat pets than leveling. (I enjoy buying and sending pets to her as well ^^)
I can understand the annoyance at those who are slower, younger, less talented than you, but some of them have such great potential if only you give them the time of day.
Incendo Jun 12th 2007 8:25AM
I hate to sound like a selfish prick but people just stop helping one another in this game because unless you have a vested interest in doing so it almost always ends up biting you. You agree to craft something for someone and you spend an hour standing there as they keep forgetting mats, they train a dozen mobs onto you, they lead you off a cliff. That kind of stuff.
Dah Cheet Jun 12th 2007 8:28AM
I try to help others do quests when they're in the same area as me. Usually it benefits both of us.
Maurganra Jun 12th 2007 8:39AM
I dont mind helping others with one or 2 quests but when your doing their whole quest log and u only had like 2-3 q's together well.../sigh
JJ Jun 12th 2007 8:41AM
I've actually help/ed many people even when I was lower lvl on my main and alt, and I still run with two of them now nd look forward to running with them. I always help guildies and if I see anyone out and about, I try to help them if they're not doing to well on a pull aka about to be gacked.
I think that's the best part of the game running with/helping people.
SgtPepper Jun 12th 2007 8:51AM
I have my own personal rules when it comes to needy strangers.
1. If someone asks for gold, ignore them
2. If someone asks for profession work, oblige
3. If someone asks for quest assistance, oblige if bored
The problem with giving free handouts is that it encourages laziness and irresponsible behavior. And to be honest, isn't it that much more rewarding when you accomplish something without anothers help? I tend to lose a little respect for someone when they ask for a measly scamp of gold or materials when they could easily farm it themselves. To all the beggars: Own up to the game and earn it yourself!
But when it comes to answering questions that unfamiliar newbies pose, It only takes a couple seconds to reply and the spam in general chat usually declines.
FireStar Jun 12th 2007 9:06AM
Yeah i almost always ignore whispers for help. Maybe I shouldn't. I realized a long time ago that I could care less about the goals (get lvl 70, get this equipment etc) cause when you get bored of the game it counted for nothing. Maybe i should take the time to help out ppl who whisper me.
Razlarkun Jun 12th 2007 10:03AM
Last night on Aggarmar, my wife and I teamed up with another player to go kill some of he chain quest bosses in Stranglethorn Vale. While waiting for respawns (A few alliance groups beat us to a punch or two) we saw a few other players wandering around looking for the same bosses. We teamed up as we could and killed them all a few times so everyone could get their kill.
This is the type of game play that really makes me feel good about the game. Sometimes it's just too darn hard to kill a lvl 43 elite boss being a lvl 37 . By taking 10 minutes out of my questing to help people out makes the game so much more enjoyable. Especially on the next day when they see you struggling on something and pay it back by jumping in to help kill the next quests boss.
Quoi Jun 12th 2007 9:08AM
I often help people with quest knowledge and information. I've had 3 separate people ask me where I got my nether drake, and instead of saying lawl goez awai kidzor, I took the time to explain the process and answer their questions, as well as offer my assistance should they end up purchasing a mount and beginning the grind. I actually had one person tell me that they wished they could report someone for kindness. It is sad though, that you can be considered one of the nicest people on the server by taking time to answer someone's question.
Rhadagast Jun 12th 2007 9:14AM
Nice item to remember, someone comes up as you are fighting a quest goal, invite them. they might not be there at the start, but if they are there at the finish, they get credit. You might be doing the heavy lifting, but hey, they get help/don't have to wait on respawn/aren't asking you to stick around (not a great reason, buuuuuut)
Another thing is stress relief (running stockades at 70 just to slaugher things [feral druid, 7 fights for a total clear]) - bring along a lowbie to loot til their hearts content.
annoula Jun 12th 2007 9:14AM
I think everyone has gotten burned being useful. I've messaged people getting mocked in gen chat with answers to things or words of advice. Only to have that person either 1) insist that I run them through instance x, y or z, 2) Walk them to whatever trainer it is they are looking for, 3) buy them this or pay for their mount.
When I was doing quests with my alt in Hellfire (having completed them all on my main), I tried to be helpful and give advice to new players. I had to put countless people on ignore because they'd ask me, finish one quest, ask me again. Seriously wowhead.com thottbot.com there's no excuse.
ArchDjinn Jun 12th 2007 9:16AM
As a long time gamer but a WOW noob (in all its glory) I look to the big dogs for guidance. The manual is what, freaking 300 pages and it only covers the basics. A little help goes a long way...know what I mean. Think back you your noob days and add in all the changes that have taken place. Give the little guys a hand now and then.
~Arch~
MLL Jun 12th 2007 9:17AM
I try to help where and when I can and will always answer questions if I actually know the answer. I also encourage people who are leveling to find a good leveling guild. There is usually at least one on the server with a reputation for actually being helpful and friendly. I've always wondered why so many people answer questions with ugliness . . . it doesn't take any longer to type the actual answer than it does to type an insult.
Mehrunes Jun 12th 2007 9:26AM
I have one particular guildie of whom is a pretty terrible warrior. He has been run through DM, Stocks, and SM by higher level characters (I'm even guilty for doing this) way too many times that he never really learned how to play his class. So I try not to run people through instances any more because they don't have to develop any skill. Luckily, I have an Alt for every class and they are spread across all levels (lowest is at 12, highest is at 70). So if anyone needs help in an instance, I'll hop on a character that is of the appropriate level and help them. That way it still requires them to develop some sort of skill, and I get the fringe benefits of levelling/gearing another alt.
drew Jun 12th 2007 9:30AM
I dont mind helping people but there have been times that (out of the kindness of my heart) I helped someone only to get demands for something more or told how to play my toon. When it comes to run-throughs i ask that the person find a group first (saying a 70 is comin along tends to net a few takers)
cause i dont want to spend several hours on an instance just because the one being run through wants a random drop or to be power leveled from the instance xp.
However i will rape an instance to help someone get all their quests done ^-^
And in cases outside instances i helped a low lv druid one day when i was bored. We basicly got all his ashenvale quests done and nearly a whole lv. Not to mention his guild master thanked me personally and if i wasnt already in a guild i had made with a friend i would definately have joined that one ^-^
Krianna Jun 12th 2007 9:35AM
I try to help anyone who asks questions-- it even attracted a 70 to our guild, because he was tired of raiding and was pleased to see someone RPing in general and being helpful.
I've been very helpful about four times-- one of them was an obvious youngster who had trouble figuring out how expensive passive mech. Yeti are to make. After walking him through it and showing him that everything he had (5g) wouldn't be enough to even pay for the metal involved I scrounged around with my husband and made him one. Huge mistake. I couldn't do ANYTHING without being asked to run this, make him that or give him the other thing. He hung so close that I accidentally traded him some mats, and when he refused to give them to my husband's alt, I kind of exploded and got rude.
The other three were similar, but my ship deployed before anything could go wrong enough to make me rude. Someone obviously young or not bright asks for help, I help them out, I get tells every half hour asking for help in various things, and I can't /ignore because they're *kids*.
I'll probably keep helping, although I generally keep the random kindness more inside the guild-- or do a 6 fold return to folks that are nice to me for no reason.
Krianna Jun 12th 2007 9:42AM
Oh, that reminds me-- I never, NEVER help out random whispers on my priest in Outlands. Every single time they start the fight before I reach them, or they pull while I'm getting mana back from buffing, or they have a tank who is one-shotted, or thinks that fade has no reuse so he doesn't have to actually TANK the four mobs running at the priest... and scream at the priest. Sorry, no, not going to volunteer to be the latest scapegoat in your serial failing, and I can do without the repair bill. If I know you, or you can find someone I know to vouch, then I might help.
Joshie Love Jun 12th 2007 10:00AM
Hate to get off topic - but that guy's post sounds like something my drunken uncle would tell me at a family gatering.