Spiritual Guidance: Grouping with Priests

Priests always seems to be in demand. Exploring or questing in any area of the game, at any level, whether Horde or Alliance, a Priest player can expect to be pestered with whispers for instance runs. Some polite, some demanding, some who need to be put on our ignore lists, and some who don't make any sense at all, but seem to be asking for something. What's a Priest to do when being asked to go here, there, or elsewhere? And what's a player to do when they need a Priest's help? Well, I'm going to try to explain here, in something of a how-to guide for grouping, for the Priests and non-Priests among us. So whether this is your first time partying with a Priest or your hundredth -- keep reading. There's plenty to know about how to act in a group, and we're only going to scratch the surface.
Talent specs
Just because a player is listed as a Priest in /who doesn't mean they're interested in healing. If you're asking a Priest to heal your group, be sure they're interested in healing first! However, also be aware that regardless of spec, a Priest can be a quite capable healer. Don't turn away a Shadow Priest who's willing to heal -- they may not have the healing talents, but a Priest's base abilities make them perfectly capable healers for most of the game's challenges. (My priest is currently specced with 31 points in Shadow and the rest in Discipline, and I tend to be a bit dodgy when asked about my spec. I love healing, and am happy to run any dungeon around my level, but sometimes if people find out I have a shadow-heavy spec, they won't want me to heal -- and in most situations I can heal just fine, despite my investment in the Shadow tree.)
But don't forget that a Shadow Priest who's only interested in playing in Shadowform can bring a lot to a group, too. No, a Priest in Shadowform won't be main healing, but with Vampiric Embrace is a nice healing boost for the entire party and Vampiric Touch will keep the party's mana-users up and doing damage. And, of course, even a Shadow Priest can buff you with Fortitude and help out with Power Word: Shield. All in all, they're an excellent addition to any party!
And, to the Priests out there -- just because you're Shadow specced or Holy DPS specced, don't count healing out. Sure, you can do great damage, but any instance group is going to need a healer, and you may be the best option they can find. If a group asks you to heal, don't necessarily tell them off -- but explain that you're not specced for healing and if you go, you're going to want to roll on cloth DPS gear. Hey, if they're asking you to do something you don't usually do, it's only fair that you both get something out of the deal. (But do be clear on what you expect before the run starts!)
HAEL ME!!!
I cannot possibly describe how much I loathe being yelled at to heal. (And this is from someone who enjoys playing a healing role.) Trust me -- If I'm in your group to heal, I'm watching everyone's health (and my mana) and casting spells accordingly. But if you aren't the tank, you're not my first priority. And while some people may be unhappy to hear that (the same people yelling HAEL ME constantly in party chat, probably), they shouldn't be. I'm trying to keep the whole group alive, which means my priority list looks something like this:
- Priest (that's me!): If I die, the tank is going to die next, and after that the rest of the group is probably lost. So if I'm taking enough damage to be dangerous, I'm going to heal myself first.
- Tank: Without a tank, any pull becomes a tremendous challenge. Sure, even a Mage can tank for a little bit, but without a main tank (with all the skills to manage aggro and soak up damage), the party as a whole isn't going to last for very long. Throughout most of any fight, I'll be targeting the main tank, either casting heals on him or monitoring his health carefully.
- DPS: Precise classes on this list vary depending on whether one or another is more necessary for the specific instance. But for the most part, I rank DPSing members of a party based on how well they're playing. Did that Hunter save us from a wipe last pull because he off-tanked an add with his pet? Did the Mage keep a Polymorph on a target we weren't ready to take on while we bandaged and rested up for a few moments? Yep, people who I notice contributing especially to a party I'm in get priority on my heals list.
And if you're playing in a group? Trust that your healer is watching you -- really, they don't need to be reminded to heal you. They're doing their best -- and yelling at them to heal is just going to annoy them.
OOM
No, this doesn't mean "out of mobs, please pull more!" It means "out of mana" -- and without mana, I can't heal you! So please take a glance at my mana bar before you decide to pull. If it's empty, the best option for me is probably to back up and drink while you get yourself killed. It's easier for me to rez you after than it is for us to do a corpse run -- because if I'm only have enough mana for a heal or two when a pull is made, the party isn't going to survive.
And Priests, it doesn't hurt to announce that you're out of mana when you're out of mana. A lot of players aren't used to running in groups and some of them may not even realize what mana is. (If you've only ever played a class with rage or energy, the concept of mana is going to be foreign to you.) So announce OOM when you're so low on mana that a pull would be dangerous -- and in case your group-mates don't read WoW Insider, you might want to explain what it means the first time you say it, just in case.
Aggro
What's it mean when I yell "Aggro!" on the party line? Well, it means that a mob has broken off from the main group and is smacking me around. (Yes, just like damage, healing causes aggro -- which means if the main tank isn't working hard to keep the attention of all the mobs out there, a single heal could send some of them running straight to me.) And while I'm dealing with that mob (or mobs!), I'm not able to heal anyone in the party. Taking hits slows down and interrupts my healing spells -- not to mention that taking damage means I might die and leave your party healer-less! Yes, I can Fade to temporarily reduce my threat, which usually works -- but unless someone picks up and starts tanking that mob, it'll come right back to me after Fade wears off. When I yell that I've got aggro, it's because there's a mob on me that I can't get rid of -- and if no one tries to get it off me, it's going to wind up killing me and we're all going to be running back to the instance.
And healers, when you've got aggro from something and no one seems to notice? Say something about it! (In fact, make a macro to say something about it -- hitting a macro is always faster than typing.) Players who aren't used to playing in groups may just not be paying attention to where the adds are running, and a gentle reminder could get them to come to your aid, and in turn, keep the entire group alive.
Do you have any hints of your own for the Priests out there -- or the people grouping up with them? Tell us all about them in the comments!
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Chris M Jun 23rd 2007 8:29PM
Nice first article. I was hoping that you guys would get to a Priest weekly article/section, given all the other classes now have one.
Chris
kaz Jun 23rd 2007 8:45PM
Ive rolled a NE priest to 60 pre expansion, raided holy up to aq 40.
Expansion droped rolled to 70, went shadow.
Moral of the story.
Go shadow, your sanity will thank you.
Nathan Jun 23rd 2007 8:47PM
YES YES YES YES YES!!! This should be required reading for every group I'm in.
two emotes/macros I find useful:
/helpme
/oom
If you can't heed these two, I'm going to let you die and I'm not going to feel bad about it. Also, people who yell "HEEL PLZ!!1!" go immediately to the bottom of my list.
Furthermore, I didn't pump all these points into shadow to babysit your skinned knees. If you don't need healing, and I've got full mana, I'm going to be DPSing whatever needs killing. The quicker something dies, the less healing we need - and the better xp we make.
Lanth Jun 23rd 2007 10:13PM
I remember back in the day when I was doing a ZF run, our main healer had a macro which said something like this:
YOUR HEALER HAS AGGRO, HELP HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very effective.
HotSauce Jun 24th 2007 12:57AM
My priest is shadow spec'd. I thought about changing to holy a couple of times because I only ever find myself playing when i'm in a group/dungeon. However, I do sometimes solo, and the thought of not being able to dish out major dps, or slowing the target, or even regenerating health and mana per shadow damage given, leaves me quite hesitant.
Zegim Jun 24th 2007 1:58AM
People needs to respect the work of a healing Priest. They are always on demand and some really take pride in their role. I want to roll a priest because because of these selfless healers around the realms that have saved my back more than once.
CrpyTech Jun 24th 2007 3:06AM
#1 Rule Die before the priest
#2 Rule Never ask a priest for a heal
#3 Rule Never complain to a priest when you die
#4 Rule see all the above
I've tried two priests and cannot....cannot, put up with all the crap that priests get.
Priests are the crap class of the game and you should get down on your knees and kiss their feet when they get you through an instance.
This from an old warrior with many alts.
Lucis Jun 24th 2007 4:07AM
Learning how long a tank can go before you need to cast a heal can also be critical. I tend to drink while the group pulls to save time rather than telling them to slow down. If the tank can live for 13ish seconds on a normal pull then you can squeeze out an extra 10 seconds of water putting you at a rather nice starting point for healing most trash. I am kinda weird though. I get pissed when tanks always wait for my mana inbetween easy pulls and start pulling for the group.
Namelis Jun 24th 2007 4:52AM
Heres a hint to all the priests out there:
If you are being pestered for buffs by some random passer by, simply say that you are shadow specced and thus cant buff.
Rich Jun 24th 2007 7:37AM
One of the things I haven't seen mentioned yet is being expected to resurrect the whole group instead of everybody releasing after a wipe. If the group wipes, it saves a lot of time if everybody runs back together.
Krishan Jun 24th 2007 7:45AM
Haha best thing I ever did was go Shadow for grinding, and then I got a whisper to take over in Shattered Halls, and I really needed the healing boots, so when they asked if I was holy I just said yes.
So I never went in Shadowform, never hit a mind flay and found it hard not to dps but I healed the whole group perfect, and upon downing the last boss and getting thanked, I popped SF and the whole group was shocked...it felt good to raise awareness that Shadow Priests are PRIESTS, we CAN naturally heal.
Oh and I did get those healing boots :D
Gendou Jun 24th 2007 7:47AM
Next week: Shadow Priests?
www.chillinwithmygnomies.com Jun 24th 2007 7:47AM
Tip to all: dump the "heal me!" macro, it's goddamn insult, you never see "DPS NOW!" or "FIREBALL!" or "TANK IT!" macros, do you? No. So you don't need a "heal me" either.
I don't understand what they think we priests are doing in groups, that we need "reminding" to heal.
moil Jun 24th 2007 7:55AM
One thing i find very useful are raid warnings...i have a macro:
/rw Priest has aggro!
and:
/rw Priest is low on mana.
Often in groups people fail to notice normal chat, but unless you are in an actual raid group, there is no reason you can't do a raid warning. Only issue with that is that when people see them, they often ask how you do it and start flooding the rw with every piece of chat.
dotorion Jun 24th 2007 8:21AM
Macro 1:
/helpme
/y **** Mob on healer ****
/p **** Mob on healer ****
Macro 2:
/oom
/y **** Healer nearly Out Of Mana ****
/p **** Healer nearly Out Of Mana ****
Since people sometimes don't seem to monitor either /yell or /party I announce on both channels.
And don't yell OOM when you're already out of mana ! Yell it a bit before or you'll wipe very fast.
When you yell it in time, backup healers can take the time to start healing and everyone can hit the "oh sh1t" buttons to end the fight fast.
Lunati Jun 24th 2007 9:01AM
Please understand that shadow priests can heal!
In fact for your average 5 man PUG while leveling a shadow priest is usually going to be a better healer than a holy. Any priest that levels as a holy probably doesn't understand the class as well as they could.
cetha Jun 24th 2007 9:39AM
our main healer has /yell "UNLESS YOU ALL WANT TO DIE GET THIS THING OFF OF ME NOW!!!!!"
it makes me giggle and it's effective :)
Sophie Jun 24th 2007 10:31AM
If the priest is shadow, remember that they can heal but they need more breaks. Buff up your armour, pull less often.
To the Spriests, remember to drop shadow when you're called for extra healing.
If the priest is holy, please remember our mana
pool is NOT unlimited as it seems. Give a break. And tank please come with decent equipment ;_;
Bootsanator Jun 24th 2007 11:40AM
@16 I'm leveling as a Holy/disc priest (21 in disc for spirit buff) and I love it, and I know the class. I just specced shadow to try it out at 54 and respecced back to holy around 55. I can see why people love shadow, and melting faces sure is fun, but I like my role as a holy priest. We'll see how the endgame is if i ever get there, I'm sure it's a whole other story.
I've leveled from lvl 13 to 54 BARELY questing outside of instances. I've just been in pugs pugs pugs, healing everybody. Good times.
Bootsanator Jun 24th 2007 11:43AM
Oh, and my favorite person to have in a party right after a good tank? a shadow priest. 2 priests FTW, shadow priests add the uber dps and keep up the other members of the party so well that i can focus even more on simply healing the tank. the group moves much faster that way too.