Two Bosses Enter: Jin'do vs. Moam
by Elizabeth Harper 
Jul 1st 2007 at 4:25PM
This week we have Jin'do the Hexxer from Zul'Gurub matching up against Moam from Ahn'Qiraj. Interested in learning a bit about these two bosses -- and giving us your opinion on who would come out ahead? Read on!
Moam is a construct created by the Twin Emperors, Vek'nilash and Vek'lor. (We'll be talking more about them next week!) However, even they were surprised by his abilities once he was brought to life.
In a fight, Moam starts with zero mana -- but throughout the battle he drains mana from those he's in combat with. When his mana bar is full, he unleashes an arcane explosion, doing damage and throwing everyone around him high into the air. (For a raid group, that's usually the end of the fight.)
And every 90 seconds, Moam will summon three Mana Fiends to assist him in the fight. These minions have an arcane AoE attack and can counterspell casters, interrupting their spell cast and locking out their ability to cast spells in that school for 12 seconds.
For more detailed information on Moam and his attacks, see WoWWiki.
Jin'do the Hexxer is a powerful Troll Shaman inside Zul'Gurub. In a fight, his melee abilities are mostly inconsequential -- but he has quite a bag of tricks to draw on in his defense.
First off, totems. Jin'do has a totem that will mind-control his attackers and a totem that will heal him (about 3% of his health a tick). He can hex his attackers, turning them into frogs. (Only one at a time, though.) And he can curse his targets with Delusions of Jin'do, a DoT doing shadow damage and spawning a powerful Shade of Jin'do. The Shades can only be seen and attacked by an individual with the curse, but they can attack anyone.
For more detailed information on Jin'do and his abilities, check WoWWiki.
Now, if these two bosses met up and fought, what do you think would happen? As with any fight involving Moam, it's a race against time before he manages to use his Arcane Explosion. However, Jin'do's healing totems could certainly keep him going in the battle, while his mind control totem could turn Moam's Mana Fiends against him.
I'm afraid voting for this week is finished -- you can read up on the results here.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Adam Jul 1st 2007 4:36PM
You should upgrade the brackets that you've been posting, because according to those Jin'do is supposed to fight Kel'thuzad and Moam is supposed to fight Curator.
Though I guess this is a better fight, because in those match-ups I think we all know who'd win.
darkicon Jul 1st 2007 4:49PM
Hmmm Hard choice. I think in this one I would have to say Jindo by far. btween his healing totem, and his dot/shades he would be able to dps down moam.
BUT on the other hand.
Moam drains mana from her attacker. So Jindo wouldnt have the mana for his totems or dots. Making him pretty much useless and dead.
My chose Moam!
Nic Jul 1st 2007 5:08PM
No mana, means no totems.
Moam ftw =)
Mats Jul 1st 2007 5:56PM
Not only would Jin'do lose his mana, but Moam is immune to charm spells as a construct, and I am guessing his elements are the same.
Elizabeth Harper Jul 1st 2007 6:00PM
Yeah, I tweaked my brackets this afternoon. I'd been thinking Moam did nature damage (lotsa nature damage in AQ), but, as you've read here, he does arcane damage. The Curator's immune to arcane damage. Wouldn't be much of a fight. I'm going to re-check my brackets and make sure I haven't made any other goofy mistakes and re-upload them with the fight results next week.
I dunno, I think Jin'do still has a shot here -- it would depend on whether he managed to kill Moam before Moam drained all of his mana away. That part I'm not sure about.
Burgdorn Jul 1st 2007 6:03PM
I personally think that with the limited part size that Moam's group would have he wouldn't be able to handle the constant onslaught of shadows as they begin to pile up. Plus Jindo would as you state survive off his healing totems because again the shadows would kill the Mana summons. This is a no contest deal here.
Reason I say this. First time ever seeing Moam, downed on first try. Jindo is another story.
Tommysalomi Jul 1st 2007 6:53PM
Jindo would have enough mana to drop at least 4-5 healing totems. These would never die, since totems are immune to AE damage. Plus, Moam would take quite awhile to fill his mana bar with the strength of his mana drain. Moam is immune to poison, so the shades would pile and pile and pile up.
This is Jindo, no contest.
WatcherZero Jul 1st 2007 8:41PM
Moams Aoe doesnt do that much dmg, its recoverable from for a raid, for Jindo its probably 1% of his health, your also forgetting Jindo's teleport with all the skellies.
Fight goes like this: Jindo starts attacking dropping totems and shades building up as well as skellies from a teleport, by the time Moam AOE's he kills 50 adds, but then all the adds are back before Moam aoe's again.
Moam goes down to sheer number of Jindo adds.
tallguy59 Jul 1st 2007 11:55PM
Not only is Moam cooler looking, but I reckon the arcane explosions and the mana fiends would give him (or it?) the edge. For one thing, there wouldn't be a raid group to worry about in regards to the Shades, and the mana fiends could die them up. Second, the arcane explosion would take care of any totems that arise.
But, you know... it does look cooler :P
WatcherZero Jul 2nd 2007 12:05AM
Totems are immune to AoE!
Death by a thousand cuts FTW!
Kaylek Jul 2nd 2007 8:35AM
Mana fiends would tag the totems as soon as they're up. Jin'do would go down due to mana issues just like any shaman. Soon as the curse goes out all those shades would eat some hard AOE. Jin'do doesn't have the damage to take out the mana fiends, much less Moam, so the fight would go downhill fast.
sotallytober Jul 2nd 2007 9:40AM
To all you people saying that Jindo would lose his mana, nearly all bosses that use mana have nearly limiteless supplies of it (unless there is some part of the fight that uses it for a gimmick, ie curator or bat boss iirc). Sure Moam would drain some mana and get some aoe's off but the speed of shades spawning and the number of totems Jin'do drops would certainly do in Moam. It would be a long fight be there's just no way for Moam to kill Jin'do once he got rolling.
sotallytober Jul 2nd 2007 9:43AM
also, the mana fiend's damage is aoe so there is no way that any of the totems would be destroyed
Cascade Jul 2nd 2007 11:54AM
Moam with only a few scratches...
Moam would have the debuff to see all of the shades...they'd die in the first AoE and continune to do so.
Moam and his adds; immune to charm, immune to teleport. No problems there.
Moam's adds would tear up the totems.
Jindo could focus on the adds, but still has low physical dps...and it would get to the AoE phase faster.
sotallytober Jul 2nd 2007 12:47PM
Moam's adds only do aoe damage and totems are immune to aoe damage. Not a single totem would die. Also, Moam's aoe's are few and far between, also they only hit for relatively small amounts. I would guess that Moam's adds are also targets for the shade debuff and so would make it difficult depending on the timing to even kill all the shades with each of Moam's aoe. In summation, lots of totem (once he has like 4 healing ones down he's invincible) + crazy shades = dead Moam.
Amynnah Jul 3rd 2007 8:13AM
Jindo would win. One, he's a male Troll Shaman, two, he's a male Troll Shaman.
I know waaaaay too many female gamers (myself included) who would come out of the woodwork to fight on his behalf. It'd be worse than the Balance Druid's trees... and Moam would be dead.
The end.
Lesson25 Jul 3rd 2007 4:50PM
Everyone keeps assuming Moam is going to DPS Jindo continuously. What happens if Moam DPSs the totems and the adds? Jindo hits like a girl and is easily healed through; the only time we've wiped to him have been when the MT gets hexed or when people don't kill their own shades and they end up overwhelming the healers. Neither problem will apply to Moam. Meanwhile, Moam is continuously mana-burning Jindo & his adds will start to pile up.
Fghting Moam is the second biggest zerg-rush that I can think of (first being Vael); if Moam can break it down to attrition, I think he wins hands-down.