Officers' Quarters: Boosting traffic
Every Monday Scott Andrews contributes Officers' Quarters, a column about the ins and outs of guild leadership.
Odds are, your guild has its own Web site. With Web hosting becoming so cheap, there's really no excuse not to have a site. You've done all the ground work, paid the fees, set up registration, created forums, designed a shiny new logo, and posted pics of your latest Prince kill. This week, one reader wants to know, after doing all that, how do you get your members to actually use it?
Scott,
First off . . . a small bit of background: I'm the guild master of [. . .] the largest Horde guild on [my server]. We have about 200+ accounts in our guild. The guild has been running strong since August 2006; but what sets us apart from all the other guilds on [the server] is that we are VERY laid back to the point that we almost cater to the "casual" gamer. [. . .]
Here's the question that brought me to e-mailing you: How do you reconcile the difference between your guild's in-game roster versus your guild's Web site roster? For example, we have all the usual bells and whistles of any "organized" guild (bank inventory, dedicated Ventrilo server, domain name, forums, ranks, etc, etc). But one thing that has been a constant battle for me is _getting_ people to come to the Web site. Each week I take a tally; promotion to our first rank requires Web site registration . . . Nonetheless the better of 50% of my guild has never even visited our Web site let alone registered there. Last I checked, of the 209 accounts associated with [my guild], only 100 or so had actually visited the Web site and registered. This makes it very difficult for us to keep everyone informed and, more importantly, to get everyone's input on what they want out of the guild, etc.
So, how do you effectively encourage people to visit your guild's Web site? What is the "secret"?
[Reader's character and guild]
Thanks for writing! Your guild actually sounds a lot like mine. And although our Web site isn't exactly a high-budget affair, most of the people in the guild visit it from time to time and a large portion of those are active posters. Even so, I still have moments like the one a few weeks ago. I had posted some info on how to obtain the Gruul's Lair-specific flasks, bumped it to keep it visible, and even cross-linked it in a few other posts to make sure people saw it. Then when we set out to do the Bash'ir Landing Skyguard event on the night of the raid, people were still asking me, "What are you guys up to in Blade's Edge?" and "How do I get Apexis Shards?" It can be quite maddening.
But for the most part, people are quite active on our site. I attribute the success of the site to two things: desk jobs and boredom. If your guild is full of white-collar types, I can virtually guarantee you some daytime traffic.
Beyond that, the first step is to build awareness. Put the URL in your guild's Message of the Day and on the info page in the guild interface. Use the site to do some of your important ongoing business like announcing raid schedules. That way, your members will get in the habit of visiting the site if they want to stay on top of what the guild is doing.
Once you've done that, you need to give people reasons to visit it often. And much like this crazy Wow Insider site, you have to offer new content on a frequent basis to keep people coming back day after day.
The easiest way to generate new content is to keep your forums active and interesting. Your forums are the key to building a thriving community on the site. I check our site probably 4 or 5 times per day during the week, and rarely do I log in to see that there aren't any new posts. I look at other guild's sites and see threads on the first page that haven't been posted in for weeks. Even some of the big, famous guilds have stagnant forums, and I've never understood why.
What do we post there? Anything and everything including raid rosters and run schedules of all sizes; jokes and funny screen shots; original game guides about classes, quests, professions, etc.; the guild banks' contents; personal updates about what we're up to IRL; polls to get feedback; random smack talk; our rules and philosophies; salutes to our victories and examinations of our defeats to improve our performance; applications for new members; political and scientific discussions; and of course pics of members' drunken exploits at guild parties.
It takes a while to get to this point, obviously. Since you don't have an army of bloggers at your disposal, you have to rely on your members. As the guild leader, make a new thread every day and ask your officers to post in it or start their own threads whenever they can. The topic doesn't matter, as long as it's useful or entertaining in some way. Don't make your posts only about Warcraft or only about serious topics -- get creative and let loose! Posts beget posts, and if you keep at it, other people in the guild will catch on and start posting as well.
Another easy way to encourage posting is to offer ranks for the number of posts people make. The officer who made our site has a goofy sense of humor, so his ranks are pretty off-the-wall and people can't wait to see what the next highest rank will be. Our most active posters hit the 2500 mark a few months ago (and this after our entire site's database accidentally got deleted about a year after its launch), so we have quite a few ranks at the moment.
I'm sure other guild leaders can chime in below with what makes their sites unique and interesting. My guild's site is pretty standard, but our community has made it a special place that people rely on for good information, guild management, and -- most importantly -- endless entertainment. Your community can too!
Send Scott your guild-related questions, conundrums, ideas, and suggestions at scott.andrews@weblogsinc.com. You may find your question the subject of next week's Officers' Quarters!
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
makabak Jul 2nd 2007 2:09PM
Our guild requires an online application for membership. This forces potential guildies to at least register and post once on the forums.
Along with the "New topic every day" suggestion, you might create a couple stickied threads, such as:
1. Talent spec discussion for each class
2. Raid suggestions/hints/strategies
3. Popular AddOn
4. TV show discussion. I know this one nearly melts our forum server...
Erica Olson Jul 2nd 2007 2:26PM
It might be nice to post your url in general every once in a while so that if people are looking for a guild they can find you and check out your policies and whatnot.
Hard to pick a guild or even decide if you may be interested in applying for one if you have no idea about them, their style and what's expected.
Baluki Jul 2nd 2007 2:34PM
Unfortunately, the problem with a large guild is that most of the people there aren't dedicated to the guild, but to leveling/gearing up, and once their goals are achieved, they leave. A big, all-purpose guild is just chaos without focus. You need to be dedicated to raiding or PvP, and limit membership to those who share similar goals. It would be nice if large guilds (with people who are all interested in different aspects of the game) could actually work, but they always lose out to more focused guilds.
So to get people to use your forums, you need a focus, first and foremost. You need all your members focused on the same goal for them to be interested in communicating out-of-game.
martinavila Jul 2nd 2007 3:09PM
Have a nice design, with forums, pretty girls, and picture threads.
Then say something in guild chat like...
Me:"omg is so hot"
non site visiting guildie: "huh?"
me: "her picture is on the forums! but you have to log in"
non site visiting guildie: "OMG I CANT LOG IN PLZ HLP!"
martinavila Jul 2nd 2007 3:11PM
http://www.sustainablelegion.com
It works :)
Var Isis Jul 2nd 2007 3:28PM
From personal expereince, it's hard work to get people on the site.
Our site (www.nuclearguild.com) has been a good tool for recruitment PR device. I just wish our guildies will check it often for guild event, runs, and just chit chat outside the game.
One last thing. To those guild members, givey our GM a hug or a compliment from time to time. Being a GM and trying to make the guild works takes a lot of time and engery outside the game that most people don't realize.
EvilCheese Jul 2nd 2007 4:18PM
Well if you have 200+ accounts and consider yourself a casual guild, me thinks you just answered your own question. It doesn't sound like your members have a reason to visit your website: ie raid schedule or group make-ups, or anything like that. I mean, if you're one of 200 people in a guild that's probably nothing more then a slightly refined LFG channel, what do you really expect?
Belal-Alleria Jul 3rd 2007 1:31AM
Actually I have to disagree with you Baluki. I am an officer in the Emerald Dream, a decent sized (between 50 and 60 active accounts and a handful more semi active) casual guild on the Alleria server. We stress the idea of accepting all play styles without any compulsory play requirements.
Yes, in the past we have had our share of "jumpers"....players who join, level up and then move on to "greener" pastures but for the most part we have managed to sustain a sizeable and consistant membership base since release. We try to indulge in many aspects of the game from PvP to non standard events (fishing tournaments, naked gnome racing, etc) to what we like to call "light" raiding. For the most part our membership is pretty happy with how we run things even though we have a diverse group of players and no singular focus.
We have a website of our own which is free of charge mainly thanks to our former founding guild leader, Duamian, who is now an officer and just so happens to be a codemaster and web designer.
The site itself is still fairly new (we recently switched to a new platform) and is a work in progress but it has everything you would expect from a guild site. Yet we are still having problems getting our members onto the site.
From my experience a good website can make running a successful guild 100% easier. Before WoW I played Asherons Call on the Leafcull server and was an officer in one of the most successful guilds in the game, the Empyrean Guard. Our website was part of the Redbird domain and was a smash hit. IMO it was a large part of the guilds longevity and success. It was so popular that some of our members spent more time on the site than in game and just like the above author we had post count ranks (some of our members were in the 10k+ post range o.O) and even contests involving post count.
After reading this article I have realized that having foo foo off topic posts like "word association" or "joke of the day" will help. Also the idea of having the officers make at least one new post each day is great. Another option is a forum for free form expression such as short stories and poetry. We in the ED have a "what do you look like IRL" thread with pictures of our members which is quite popular. All in all I am glad I read this article as it has given me several ideas for dealing with getting our members onto the site.
Alms Jul 3rd 2007 3:36AM
We had a huge problem with people not using our site. In the end the thing that got people was myspace links and using the site for raid sign ups. People got into the habit of going there, and even though we have a new system in place for raid sign ups, people still continue to fill it with thier day to day spam.
Alternatively, my friends guild used a competition to get members to use thier site. He did a kind of photo treasure hunt with a reward of 500g. It was a huge success apparently.
Carson Jul 3rd 2007 8:45AM
As someone who _doesn't_ visit my guild web site very often, let me tell you the single best thing you can do: provide an RSS feed. If I could keep track of the fora on Bloglines, I'd participate a lot more. Sadly so many folks are hooked on phpbb, and they can't seem to get a working RSS feed going.
Kabbalah Jul 3rd 2007 11:48AM
Even though I like my guild and visit its site every once in a while, I believe the best thing would be to actually use some sort of addon or UI mod to post news to guildies - kinda like GroupCalendar, but for news and announcements not necessarily connected to running instances. The thing is, people who work/study (or both) have little time to play the game, and they want to PLAY on that time (not visit forums, read guild news, etc). Think about an addon that pops up a window with guild news whenever you start travelling between zones using a flight path - that would be really effective to inform people about things while they are in the game, in the "WoW Mood". Maybe even using polls when the guild master wants to know something from guild members - the possibilities are endless :)
PS: Carson (#10) sugested using RSS feeds - that would be really helpful too!
arc Jul 18th 2007 2:34AM
xyzzy went through the same problems that most guilds do getting members on our site: you can't just build it and expect people to come.
FYI most links on our site require registered guild member status to access.
On our site http://www.xyzzy.ancpl.com on the home page I've added "latest raid loot" and "current boss kills" scripts pulling live data from eqdkp, the forums are RSS enabled and chock full of specialised forums which have been populated over many years of collecting wow information:
Public Forums
Recruitment Applications
Recruitment Applications - Completed
Guild Information
Guild Announcements & Info
Guild Member Forums
Affiliate Guilds
General Chat
Member Profiles
Mods
Off Topic
Professions
PvP
Quests
Raiding and Instances
The bank of xyzzy!
The Burning Crusade
Guild Class Specific Forums
Druid
Hunter
Mage
Paladin
Priest
Rogue
Shaman
Warlock
Warrior
Guild Management Forums
Website Wrangling
Veterans Affairs
Officer Chatter
We have a "one word" game on the forums which surprisingly draws a large following. From the starting post, each member can reply with one word and one word only, after a week or so we combine the posts into a story. Simple, yet effective and quite funny. This drives up forum access rates as quite a few guildies talk about it in gchat and while they are there they do tend to review new posts. Once folks are on your site you do need relevancy and you must continually add new content to engage your audience.
I've tried to make our site the "one stop shop" for our players: Ala, Thot & Wowhead search boxes on the home page plus a "set as home page" button for IE users, a highly customised wowroster implementation, TeamSpeak channel integration, wowhead talent calculator page, Bank system, modded eqdkp installation, and event system (customised phpraid).
A key thing I've found is that when you do populate your site with information and someone asks in gchat about something, you can't just say "look on our website". Be specific where it can be found and they will actually go there.
We also have a two week "trial" account whereby if you don't register for a forum/website account within two weeks of joining you lose your guild membership.
When new players join the guild they are sent an in-game induction mail message from their class leader explaining the guild's structure and pointers to our online content. This seems to really help.
Arc.