The absolute worst class duo
Our reader Josh wrote to us with an common and practical question, saying that he said that he and his girlfriend are looking forward to starting two new alts together and they would like to know what the best classes would be for leveling exclusively together, with no solo play in between. He said, and I quote: "what would the greatest, most face melting/ass kicking/uber pwnage duo in WoW look like?"
Now, fortunately for Josh and his girlfriend, we've actually been asked this question before, and anyways this sort of topic comes up lots and lots and lots of times in one way or another. I'm happy to refer them, and all interested parties of two, back to those posts with comments from our insightful readers. Of course if you feel something has changed since those topics last came up and there's a new best duo in the game, feel free to let us know here!
But in order to give this post some kind of interesting spin, how about we advice them what not to do! What would be the absolute worst class combination imaginable for two people to level with? It's not as easy as you think -- As our class encouragement breakfast topics have shown so far, each of the classes has their own form of face melting, ass-kicking uber pwnage, and they all seem to have abilities that complement each other, no matter who they're paired with. Still... there has to be a less-than-optimal combination in there somewhere, right?
Ideologically, you'd think that paladins and warlocks just would not mix at all, but no, that's not true! Actually they work great together. From my own experience, I remember practicing as a 2vs2 arena team with a mage friend, who is an excellent player, but we still didn't do very well at all. I know it could be just because I may be a terrible druid, or my gear may not be good enough, but it's actually the only time in this game that I've ever paired up with a friend only to feel that maybe our class abilities didn't complement each other well. I thought that if I could level my rogue to join her we might be a lot more successful, but my friend thought that I just needed more practice. Maybe there is no worst class duo! What's your experience?
[Check out the girlfriend's answer in the last panel of this great Penny Arcade comic above, and take it as a warning not to choose for your duo a new class that you like toooooo much, or else you might not be able to resist soloing with it when you have free time and your partner doesn't!]
Now, fortunately for Josh and his girlfriend, we've actually been asked this question before, and anyways this sort of topic comes up lots and lots and lots of times in one way or another. I'm happy to refer them, and all interested parties of two, back to those posts with comments from our insightful readers. Of course if you feel something has changed since those topics last came up and there's a new best duo in the game, feel free to let us know here!
But in order to give this post some kind of interesting spin, how about we advice them what not to do! What would be the absolute worst class combination imaginable for two people to level with? It's not as easy as you think -- As our class encouragement breakfast topics have shown so far, each of the classes has their own form of face melting, ass-kicking uber pwnage, and they all seem to have abilities that complement each other, no matter who they're paired with. Still... there has to be a less-than-optimal combination in there somewhere, right?
Ideologically, you'd think that paladins and warlocks just would not mix at all, but no, that's not true! Actually they work great together. From my own experience, I remember practicing as a 2vs2 arena team with a mage friend, who is an excellent player, but we still didn't do very well at all. I know it could be just because I may be a terrible druid, or my gear may not be good enough, but it's actually the only time in this game that I've ever paired up with a friend only to feel that maybe our class abilities didn't complement each other well. I thought that if I could level my rogue to join her we might be a lot more successful, but my friend thought that I just needed more practice. Maybe there is no worst class duo! What's your experience?
[Check out the girlfriend's answer in the last panel of this great Penny Arcade comic above, and take it as a warning not to choose for your duo a new class that you like toooooo much, or else you might not be able to resist soloing with it when you have free time and your partner doesn't!]







Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Ryan Jul 5th 2007 2:13PM
Best: two druids.
Worst: two ret pallies.
lanceleader Jul 5th 2007 4:01PM
apparently you have never seen Fat cow and the Pro which can be seen at warcraftmovies.com. Its a arena PVP video with both aspects of the druid and mage. But, personally the worst 2v2 team is 2 warriors. Or a warrior and a retri-pally that thinks hes a warrior and doesn't heal.
Sedair Jul 5th 2007 2:23PM
I would probably have to put shaman and rogue on the two worst to group together. Neither can truely tank very effectively. I'm not saying it's not doable but if you had to pick the two worst that's what I would choose. even if you try to kite with an earthbind totem or poisons neither is really effective at taking on what two other classes together could do.
PyroAmos Jul 5th 2007 2:28PM
My 2v2 rankings over a few weeks
Feral Druid and warlock - 1250 to 1700
Feral Druid And Rouge - 1700 to 1325
Rouge and Mage - 1325 to 1625
Mage and Warlock - 1625 to 1600
Feral Druid and Mage - 1600 to 1750
Feral Druid and Rouge - 1750 to 1225
Roouge and Warlock - 1225 to 1525
think its pretty obvious which is the worst combo... Feral druid and rouge are horrible 2v2 together haha. That team was such a seesaw, lol
Danny Cummings Jul 5th 2007 2:31PM
if your talking about arena...
best: 2 40/0/21 holy/ret pallies, they can burst a person down in less than 2 seconds, whle both being immune to EVERYTHING, and the other one has no hope, since they can both heal enormous amounts of damage, and deal quite a bit with 600+ spell damage
worst: 2 warriors, no healing, not GREAT damage, and limited CC
Leveling... it doesnt really make much of a difference, since most things can be soloed as one class, but i would think a melee/caster or dps/healer combo would work best. If you can get to 35, 2 paladins, or a paladin/preist is absurd, since u could pull an entire zone nearly and come out relativley unharmed.
Joyd Jul 5th 2007 2:33PM
The fact that you're leveling together with -anyone at all- makes everything immensely faster and easier. If you're planning on doing lots of instances, two classes that fill the same role might make things a little harder. I don't think that arena ratings necessarily say much at all about how well two classes do together while leveling; arena has a lot of idiosyncrasies. Except perhaps for hybrids, two of the same class is probably worse than any pair of dissimilar classes. I'd also avoid choosing two classes that wear the same armor or are likely to use the same weapons, so that when you do instances you're not competing with each other for gear.
Naaruminded Jul 5th 2007 2:42PM
Feral druid & shadow priest has been deadly for me in the past in terms of clawing (sorry) through PvE. Lots of damage output, and each has the ability to heal in some fashion.
Rich Jul 5th 2007 2:48PM
For leveling? I don't think there is an absolute worst class pairing. There are some class/spec pairings that are less useful than others, but there is no two classes that can't work together effectively.
If you go the same class, go with different specs. If you go with different classes try to go with ones that won't compete for gear. Other than that, go with what you want to play.
Fortuente Jul 5th 2007 7:04PM
I agree with Joyd. Make sure to pick different classes with different armor/weapon requirements. Relationships are hard enough as it is without having to argue over epic drops, lol.
YPEELS40 Jul 5th 2007 2:51PM
#6 Read the article title
p3ngu11 Jul 5th 2007 3:01PM
worst duos:
2 prot warriors
2 holy priests
2 holy paladins
2 resto druids
2 resto shaman
Ced Jul 5th 2007 3:02PM
IMO the worst duo for leveling is two warriors. No CC, no heals, little synergy.
Jalann Jul 5th 2007 3:05PM
Rogue and a Hunter during PVE.
I hated playing a Rogue a Hunter. I would try to get behind the mob, but because of the pets growl it would flip around and face me. I would then move behind it from that side and then the Hunter would overshoot and pull aggro and once again I was NOT behind the MOB.
Very frustrating.
infection Jul 6th 2007 2:16AM
Yeah, I agree with 5. Arena isn't the end all be all of existance. There is way more to the game than that.
Making 2 classes that are good for leveling could be one thing, making 2 classes that are good for instances is another, and then finally, classes for pvp could be another.
The most important to me would be the gear. As you are leveling, you don't strive for the same type of gear. Me and my brother leveled together and had a mage and priest. In any instance we done (most of the time) we fought over who got what, and would mad if the other one won it.
I'll agree with the article though, pally + lock. Me and my friend have that combo and its pretty sick how long we can last and dominate on stuff. When pvp'ing, if he isn't on, I usually find a lock and run with them. They are easily the most dominate character in the game, all you do is keep em alive and watch them lay it down.
johnsculley Jul 5th 2007 6:43PM
Hah I agree with the last two comments: Warr & Warr makes little sense, but playing a rogue with another ranged class (either hunter or mage) is just painful.
Heraclea Jul 5th 2007 3:16PM
For two *different* classes that don't work well together regardless of spec, my guesses would be:
- shaman + priest
- warrior + rogue
(It's ROGUE, damn it! R - O - G - U - E. Pet peeve.)
Warriors and rogues don't really help each other out much. Crowd controls like Sap that put "don't touch this" tags on mobs are the bane of at least one warrior's existence. Neither of them has any healing outside of food and first aid. Neither of them really buffs the other one outside of Battle Shout.
Shamans and priests aren't that good a combo either. At least until they level up quite a bit, shaman CC is just slows, and priest CC involves sending all of the mobs running crazy-wise and Ghod only knows what they'll aggro. Shaman buffs are largely melee oriented, especially at the lower levels. And, in this combo, the shaman will be in melee most of the time, putting spells out of reach, and using the meager tools they have to try to hold aggro against the priest.
Best combo for levelling in PvE? IMO it's shaman + warrior. The warrior gets a lot of value out of shaman buffs, holds aggro, and the shaman's heals, though not as valuable as other healing classes' at lower levels, are enough to pull the warrior through.
rich Jul 5th 2007 10:17PM
Shadow Priest and Enhancement Shaman work really well for PVE.
Reasons:
Great DPS
Steady healing
Both can rez
Shaman can reincarnate
Shaman with 2 hearths and ghost wolf is great for running back to town in a bind.
Bad combo...
Warlock and hunter, tried it, just not that good.
fbp Jul 5th 2007 4:06PM
Shadow Priest and Rogue, and me as the rogue was my favorite. I never had a problem killing mobs but I had issues keeping my health up, every other mob and I was bandaging. Made questing in WPL easy.
amasen Jul 5th 2007 4:05PM
Burst casters and Dot based classes aren't the best. For instance my fire mage and a afflic warlock are a terrible combination. My mage kills things before they get to me, and my afflic buddy wants to kill over the course of his DoTs. A shadow priest is also a bad combo with a fire mage.
Mage + warlock = bad
Fire mage + warlock = really bad
Hunter + warrior: is a pain since the hunter always tends to pull aggro or has it's pet taunt always on. No damage taken = no rage for the warrior.
Best combo in my opinion if you like to do instances is a warrior and a priest. Both can spec for DPS while still being able to tank/heal the instance (as long as they have decent gear). Also all they would need to get an instance is 3 dps classes... Trust me, that's not hard to find.
Dracula Jones Jul 5th 2007 4:06PM
Rouge and Mascara... by far the worst.