The Creamy GUI Center: MazzleUI
Each week Matthew Porter contributes The Creamy GUI Center, a column aimed at helping you enhance your WoW experience by offering an in depth guide to addons, macros and other tools we use to play WoW, along with commentary on issues that affect how we all play.
Welcome readers! Right off the bat let me thank you all for putting up with my sick on the 4th post, and for the well wishing. I really appreciate the kind words. Luckily this week I'm feeling much better, and even got to see the new Harry Potter movie. (Spoiler Alert, unlike last week's Nyquil induced hallucination, John McLane was nowhere to be found.) Anyways onward and upwards as we explore part 3 of my 4 part series on addon compilations with Mazzle UI. To paraphrase Optimus Prime, "a user friendly interface is the right of all sentient beings." Is Mazzle's unique blend of functionality and eye candy more than meets the eye? Let's find out!
Mazzlefy Your Wow
The Mazzle compilation is quite the feat. It takes addons by a variety of different authors that seemingly have little to do with each other and blends them into a greater whole. It accomplishes this with a control pane
l dubbed the "Mazzifier" that aids you in setting up the compilation by offering presets of the included addons. While you can still setup and tinker with most of the addons individually, the Mazzifier eliminates the need for most of this by preconfiguring the addons based on answers of the questions it asks you when you first use it. Questions such as if you PvP with your character, if you'd like to use a HUD display, which raid addons you prefer to use, and varying presets tailored to use lower system resources for the performance minded user or all the bells and whistles on for maximum functionality. After the setup process, Mazzle reloads the interface and arranges all the addon elements in what the author strives to be a clean, symmetrical, provides lots of information, use minimal space and be highly efficient user interface. For the most part, I feel he accomplishes this, albeit with a few caveats.
The Dazzle in Mazzle
Usually to get an interface that looks as nice as Mazzle you have to devote time and energy gathering and configuring addons, and then meticulously place each one wrapped around in artwork to give the interface that sleek look. With Mazzle, all that work is done for you, even giving presets for different screen resolutions. While other addon compilations accomplish this to varying degrees, they rely on including modified WTF files. The WTF folder in the WoW directory holds files that store all your setting's information, such as key bindings, graphic and sound settings, macros, and other miscellaneous information for each character you've ever played on your computer. When you install a compilation that relies on the interface elements being in an exact location, you have to use their WTF files to get the look the compilation promises. With Mazzle, this process is simplified as all those files are created dynamically during your first use. Another words, compared to other addon compilations that offer the same experience (i.e.: an addon assortment wrapped in a nice layout with artwork), the Mazzle UI goes the extra mile in every way imaginable.

So what all does Mazzle offer? Well the usual compilation stuff like action bars (modified BongosBar), unit frames (a modified Discord Unit Frame layout), quest minion (nQuestLog) and hodge podge of other handy addons ranging from raiding tools (choose between BigWigs or Deadly Boss Mod) to inventory managers (itemrack, trinket menu, Baggins, and Sanity2). I'm not going to go into details about every addon included, as I've either covered some or they will be in the future. The important thing here is how Mazzle assembles these addons to a greater whole. During the setup process you pick and choose which addons you'd like to use, and Mazzle does the rest by melding the addon elements into the artwork that surrounds the interface. The author, Mazzlefizz, shows an uncanny attention to detail as the addons blend into and even become a part of the artwork. Several themes are provided using the same layout. Most of the addons are located in the lower third of your monitor that leaves an unobstructed playing field to view all the action. The remaining elements are hidden until needed, like an action bar panel for non-combat related tasks, your bags/key ring, and Blizzard menu bar. Finally other addons are shown by clicking on what appears to be artwork. This is a nice touch rather than the typical minimap buttons; however as a new user you wouldn't know they were there so it would be nice if the Mazzifier pointed them out during setup. All in all the Mazzle compilation is a great way to get a good looking UI with the added convinance of a compilation. However, with all of these addons and graphical elements there are a few problems to address.
Mazzle May I?
With compilations that serve up their own layouts and artwork you are constrained to stay in its bounds. No free thinking here, the placement of everything is decided for you. Now obviously the layout is part of the allure of Mazzle, so you know going into it how things are going to be. However, some will find this confining. It should be noted that this isn't a Mazzle specific issue, as any compilation offering custom layouts have this problem. I
would personally prefer a bit more user choice, particularly with the placement of unit frames and non-combat related action buttons. Also when using the class presets, even more freedom is given up as spells and abilities are placed on your action bar for you with key bindings already decided. While obviously you can change these things, doing so seems to break the elegance of the design (but not functionality). Since Mazzle sets all your spells and abilities up for you, blank spots appear and then get filled as you level up or gain talents. While it's appreciated that the author planned a layout for each class, it's a little clunky having to reload the UI to properly fill in blanks. The same compliant can be applied to the preset keyboard shortcuts. All of these are decided for you, and again while these can be changed, doing so sort of "breaks the 4th wall" of the compilation, taking you out of the experience it's trying to deliver. Finally, while you can supply and supplement a few addons yourself (depending on functionality), doing so can accidently break Mazzle's dependence of some addons while also disjointing the artwork's flow. Ultimately this is my biggest complaint; you're limited to only the choices Mazzle is concerned about and not your own.
The Wrap Up
Of the compilations reviewed so far Mazzle is the most unique and grandest design. For a compilation of addons not specifically made to work together, Mazzlefizz does an outstanding job making them do just that. For a compilation experience that offers layouts and custom artwork, Mazzle goes a long way in bringing these features to the masses. I would love to see Mazzlefizz "outsource" his Mazzlefier for other addon artists to make layouts, or 3rd party skins and themes. While making a one size fits all layout has its share of kinks (like having to use certain presets, and needing easier expandability for your own), I feel many of these can be remedied as Mazzlefizz refines the compilation. If you don't mind the loss of control then I highly suggest checking it out. For those of you who want total control I still suggest having a look see as you could use this as a jumping off point for your own interface. For another look at the MazzleUI check out a prior addon spotlight review.
Next week concludes our look at compilations with Mirage UI (formerly Insomniax Recompilation). In the mean time I'd love to hear feedback as to what you'll like to see me review after that. Thanks for reading!
Matthew will continue spending more time building the ultimate UI than actually playing his Mage and assorted alts in his quest for usability nirvana.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
idburns Jul 13th 2007 10:39AM
I tried this mod out, found it really laggy and a huge resource hog. I restored my backup UI and all my abilities, items, etc in my actionbars were totally messed up. I guess this is a side effect of Blizzard saving your button locations server-side but still extremely annoying to have to completely reconfigure all my buttons after removing that Mazzie mess.
Levi Jul 13th 2007 10:41AM
I keep wanting to try Mazzle, but know I'll just be mad that I take 3 hours to get it all setup how I want with my own mods and then find something that I can't live without. My little addon setup may not be real pretty, but it works for me.
Burkkake Jul 13th 2007 11:36AM
I love Mazzle UI! Its great in almost everything it does and I highly recommend it to everyone.
There are too many pros to list so I'm going to list the cons.
1. It is a resource hog-however with the last patch debugging some Ace addons I've had no issues
2. When major patches come out it takes Mr. Mazzle a while to update and you will most likely experience a large block of errors until its updated.
Thats about it. Everything else is awesome. In order to not have to deal with the key bindings I don't like I have a Nostromo N52 game pad and I've mapped those keys to the awkward bindings. Issues eliminated.
If someone here wants to do a piece on the N52 gamepad I think it would bring a lot of value to players, but I digress.
Brem Jul 13th 2007 11:47AM
Let me first say I'm one of the beta testers for this mod for nearly a year now, so my take may be a bit jaded.
@1 Laggy and bloated? Are you sure. My current memory with a full installation runs about 41-45MB.Much much less than any other compilation I've used. In most part its packed with Ace addons which are pretty darn memory efficient. Unfortunately, the spells being in the wrong place is an unavoidable side effect.
@2 There aren't that many mods that you would want or need that don't have a coutnerpart. The one thing I've added is an AH scanning mod. I don't use Auctioneer cuz that's truly bloated and laggy. I'm currently using KC_Items from Ace.
Replies out of the way - My advice if you're thinking of trying this is as follows. Give it a go. But don't decide in the first 10 minutes that Mazzle isn't for you. It took me a couple days to figure out how everything worked together and how things operated under Mazzle. Once I did, the beauty of the integrated package became obvious. I can't imagine not playing without Mazzle now. Second piece of advice, read read read the FAQ. I know you want to go test drive the new UI, but the FAQ is so helpful. It'll save your life.
lumiden Jul 13th 2007 2:16PM
Ok, I've tried it, several times. I really like some of the addons, and I like the pre-sets of the addons they included...
However, the FPS sucked rocks on Mazzle. My setup that actually uses more memory is faster on the FPS. (BTW, why all the concern about minute savings of memory? what wow player doesn't have at least a gig of ram anymore????)
I also kept feeling like stuff just wasn't in the right spot when I needed it. Lots of of functionality, and customization, but WAY too much work, for something that may very well break on patch day.
I really really wanted to like it (those combat log boxes are ftw) but I just couldn't get used to it.
The keyboard remapping is STUPID. I have spent a lot of time learning WOW with mostly default key commands. Yeah, I love shifting in and out of Shadowform everytime I hit R to reply. SIGH.
There aren't enough boxes in the default layouts (and would be concerned about the mazzifier resetting them after changes). And the "class specific" layouts are useless because they're out of date and miss spells :(
Great idea, great effort, but I'm not sure this kind of thing will ever work without regular (read: weekly with the patches) updates.
So in the end, I just took some of the addons I liked from Mazzle to my setup.
RogueJedi86 Jul 13th 2007 2:09PM
I'm too skittish to try it too. I use dozens of little addons, and I'd really hate to lose the functionality of half of them.
Khanmora Jul 13th 2007 2:19PM
I used Mazzle for about a week before I ditched it. I did however keep a lot of the single addons that were in the package that I hadn't had a chance to play with before. Now I have a mostly Ace2 custom UI set up (thank god for WUU cause keeping up with 100 mods and libraries is time consuming otherwise!). I really love it and got a lot of inspiration from Mazzle but wanted to have a bit more control over my set up.
BobDob Jul 13th 2007 4:09PM
These comments are kinda retarded. You don't have to have the maazzlefyer place your actions and there are many simple layouts to choose from. People who complain about that were just to stupid to realize their own user error and just kept hitting default oks. And resource hog? I gained 10fps over photek and alldeuce. And what's up with this 'if you change something, you lose the vision' thing? That's retarded. If you wanted to change something, change it. If you don't need to change something, don't. That just saved you a ton of time over something where you had to configure it yourself to start with. Why are the brain-damaged whiners always the ones that can't stop themselves from spouting their minds all the time. And you didn't even discuss all the special features it adds that aren't in add-ons you can get elsewhere.
PrimeNumbers Jul 13th 2007 5:49PM
AUCTIONEEER!!!! this is the one thing that I think was missed with the MazzleUI. There are some auction addons in mazzle but they do not seem to do the same thing or maybe I just can not figure them out.
This brings me to my other gripe. Figuring this thing out is a chore. I am new to WoW (been playing for about a month)and when I first loaded this up I was very intimidated and after a few hours I was just plain frustrated. I either can not get some things to function, such as mail wich always says 0 until I check my mail then it says 0 new and x old or I can not figure out what the heck the mod if for.
After using mazzle for a couple of days I removed it because of the amount of confusion. I did not lvl at all during the 2 days I had it loaded because I spent all my time tinkering and reading the forum. That was another thing, the mazzle fella is a bit cocky and at times seems down right rude.
So my recommendation if you want functionality then add the ugly addons yourself, but if you want something pretty to look at go with mazz. Stay FAR FAR AWAY from mazzelUI if you are new to the game. Nothing will make sense IMO this is an advanced UI and no where near a load and go.
BobDob Jul 13th 2007 6:28PM
Prime Numbers summary: I am a total noob. I couldn't even figure out the basic stuff even though the UI has a ridiculous amount of unnecessary documentation. I gave up after 2 days, realizing it's better to wallow in the bliss of my ignorance than deal with that horrible confused feeling whenever I face my horrible brain limitations.
BobDob Jul 13th 2007 6:35PM
honestyly, guys, most of the things I see in these posts are b.s. or false. If you want accurate, criticism, here it is. For some people, it's way too small. It uses the smallest scale and you can't really modify that. And some people don't like the party layout. I like mine on the side, so I have to move them myself but that's something I'd have to do anyway and it's still insanely easier to setup than anything out there by a mile. the problem is that it's so easy to use that it attracts a lot of the brain dead mmo people who say one retarded wrong thing after another thinking they know everything. and the new skins are so purty
RogueJedi86 Jul 13th 2007 6:45PM
Don't troll.
PrimeNumbers Jul 13th 2007 7:39PM
Wow mazzel is that you? If want to see the typical mazzel attitude please view BobDobs comments. This reinforces what i was saying about new people should not use this UI. You will get this type of feedback when you ask a "noob" question or make a "noob" comment.
Thanks for your assistance BobDob
BobDob Jul 13th 2007 7:56PM
Sorry for personal attack. My temper got the best of me.
Joshua Johnston Jul 13th 2007 10:04PM
Honestly I've been using MazzUI for a few months now, and yes it was intimidating a bit at first, and admittedly if i wasn't using a 42" LCD to play... the scale is a bit small for some... but seriously... you have anything and everything you could need at your fingertips... so what if you need to change a keybinding... give me an actionbar addon you know that when you install it probes your brain, lays it out, and binds em for you when you load up... i don't know any... so unless you're using the default UI... you'd have to setup and keybind anyhow...
also the whole mail thing... is to track when you're online... it also tracks all AH info as far as sales and time outs as you play... so at a glance without running back to the mailbox you can go... oh that mail icon means the 48000 light leather i put up last night for 10g a pop didn't sell... and you don't run back to town... the reason it reads 0... you got no mail while logged in...
As far as figuring out... really apart from realizing the few artwork "hotspots" you can click and that the "MazzleUI" logo is actually a button, the whole interface just works out of the box and makes sense... there shouldn't be 2 days of figuring things out... its set up and running after 10 minutes... i'd honestly consider this UI to be a bit on the advanced side functionality wise, but definitely not in use...
And for the record :P I'm not Mazz before anyone throws the flag in... I'm just someone who enjoys using an interface that has honestly changed the game for me to the better..
Also as far as the ZOMG PATCH BROKE MY UI thing... he usually has fixes in the forums same day and a patch released soon that makes it functional... also he's worked on making MazzUI much for WoWAceUpdater friendly... IF YOU READ THE FAQ... so really downtime on Mazz is very few and far between.
Just figured i'd post my experience and 2 cents on the issue
Robert Jul 15th 2007 4:16AM
I've been using mazzleui for about six months now and I've come to find it indispensable. When I first saw it, I loved it, but didn't think I had the right resources for it, so I passed for awhile. Later on, I came upon it again and decided to give it a whirl.
At first, it certainly is intimidating; you have all these things all over the place, everything looks insanely small and all the keybindings are different. However, with a little effort, some reading (and re-reading), I found how everything worked and also how I could customize certain addons/aspects to better suit my playing and lack of super 20/20 vision. All you need is a little patience, some common sense and an open mind.
I did and I've never looked back. Thank you, Mazzle, for making such an awesome ui!
Alex Jul 14th 2007 5:28AM
I used MazzleUI for a few days and then went back to what i was using before (self-made mess of addons, but it works for me, neh).
I have to say, it looks great. And it ran great, too, despite what people are saying to the contrary. I just couldn't get next to it. Like many people have pointed out, it changes many keybindings on default - and if you're not careful, you'll end up going into and out of shadowmeld when you mean to be replying. That being said, it is gorgeous, and i especially liked the 3D models of myself, party members, and targets at the bottom of the screen - i couldn't figure out which addon that was, but it was pretty.
My major problem with Mazzle is the fact that, as a 60 warrior as i was just getting my feet wet in outlands, it defines the game on it's terms. If you're allright with relearning how to do everything you were doing beforehand, it's great. When I hit seventy and start farming instances for gear, I'll probably go back to it. But until then, I find stability to be king - and this is a radical shift. I can understand how some people absolutely hate it, and how some people swear by it - and you'll know which one you are within moments.
My two serious gripes with this setup are (1) the font is way too small on anything short of a 20+ widescreen monitor. Maybe i just messed up, but when i went to increase font size on my laptop, the difference was negligable. I have fighter-pilot vision and i couldn't read squat. On my desktop with a 22inch LCD, it looked great however. (2) it's not usable across two machines. As i mentioned, I play WoW across two machines - a desktop gaming machine and a Macbook. The macbook is great for wow, since it's not resource intensive and i can hide it behind Word while i'm playing in class. However, I did notice a considerable slowdown while using Mazzle - above the slowdown for reading the text - and if one system is using mazzle, because of the way that WoW stores actionbar buttons, it's impossible to not use it on the other. Mazzle does include SAS to back up your actionbars - which I recommend anyone do if they're considering using Mazzle - and you can use that to flip back and forth, but it's just another hassle. Of course, most people are just going to be playing on one machine, and it won't matter, but it's something to consider.
Oh, and lastly - if you're going to install Mazzle, make sure to set it to a quiet mazzlegasm - otherwise you get to /yell about your experiences to everyone in zone who will then proceed to barrage you with questions for the next few minutes. Not fun.
darau2 Jul 15th 2007 8:50AM
I have been using MazzleUI for awhile now-and I love it. It really doesn't take alot of effort to learn...there is an awesome Q&A that explains it the problem for most people that are quick to judge is that they do not read it. And the forum is quite active-often there is help there if you need it, but read the FAQ and the things provided--most of what you need is there.
The largest complaint I see here is about the keybindings--well guys you can choose to use the one that was well thought out and listed as the Mazzle set up OR you can place your own items in your own hot keys---if you don't want them pre-placed don't select preplacement to begin with--the drop down box is there for a reason, read what is written and decide! If you picked the Mazzle bars and decide you don't like them...you can easily re-mazzle just the buttons and presto...a new setup. And guess what--if you do not want to learn new key bindings--just use bongos to change them to the way you want them. Again if people would read what is provided they wouldn't need to feel so lost and bail.
Yes I use Mazzle for the look-in this new package there ARE several choices for appearance--which again can be selected when you 1st set it up. Having trouble reading stuff--well that is also addressed....Mr Magoo works great for me-I am ok with being blind. Can't read the mazzlefier to start with..pick Magoo then redo.
It is set up to go right out of the bag--if you are like me though, you will want to tinker a little bit with it...not to mention learn the addons provided to get the most out of what it can do.
I do not have memory problems-using it and mine is fully loaded. I play just fine. I easily added some of the programs that I need--auctioneer for one...its not a big deal that it doesn't come with MazzleUI as I am free to customize it--we all have addons we are used to--if its not here you can add it OR you can see what was provided and see if it will meet your needs if you just take the time to learn it.
Patch day--its not as scary as people make out. I never once stopped using Mazzle while waiting for this latest upgrade--did I need to jump in and fix some things--yep I did....but it wasn't that hard, and frankly it wasn't that 'broke'. Here is hoping that Mazzlefizz won't decide that the complaining outweighs the rewards of continuing this project. I for one appreciate the work and effort.
Michael Jul 14th 2007 6:41PM
16. Alex,
Ok where to start. I appriciate your attempt to respond to your experience using Mazzle but a few errors cloud the attempt.
1. Keybindings -- change em, problem solved. It took me about 10 minutes. Bongos has the most insane easy binding set up, hover over the button while in binding mode, press the key/key-combo you want and presto, or hit escape to clear a binding.
2. Don't like the font size, fair enough, so change it. There are three size changes in the 'Mazzlefier'. If you look at the begining you can select to only change one part or aspect of the interface. I went in and change to all of the skins testing them out in a 20 minute period to see shich of them I wanted to use full-time. The NE theme is simply beautiful.
I have yet to be whispered when having a Mazzlegasm. I will though turn that down to 'shy' mode when doing a bunch of resets and changes. As for the buttons, people please think. Bongos has its quirks but you can change all the buttons, you can even create your own setup.
As for newbies -- this can be as intense as you want it to be, or not. Just go for the ride, or take control. Look, mods are not for the meek. You have to accept things are going to go wrong, so don't whine about it. I have been an addon addict since I 1st downloaded Titan two years ago. Mazzle intrduced me to the plesures of Fubar, and I don't miss Titan. Mods come and mods go, remember Gypsy? Mod authors do it for many reasons, personal need, love of a challenge, learning to code, the posative feedback from the non-morons out there, and some like Mazzle even do it for money.
This set rocks to the point that people actually donate money to Mazzle, now that says something. Does that mean it's for everyone, no. But count me as one huge fan.
--
Neroon
Eldre'Thalas
Celestial Knights
Alex Jul 15th 2007 5:07AM
Michael,
Fair enough, though I did pump up the font with no success. Then again, there could well be some hidden font setting somewhere. As i mentioned, it wasn't for me. Your point about the keybindings is somewhat off the mark - I'm not saying that the actionbar keybindings are a problem, but that they override beyond the traditional 1 through = actionbar buttons. Sure, anyone can read through the documentation first. I didn't, and i'm sure many others wouldn't either. With that in mind, it's something that people should know.
I'm not trying to say people are foolish for liking it - merely that I didn't. You seem to like it plenty. I'm glad. It's not for everyone, though.