Guildwatch: A strange form of payback
Imagine for one second that you're an amazing raider (Yes, I know it's hard, but do it anyway). Imagine that a guild working on the Black Temple actually invites you out of your guild to come and raid with them. Would you do it? Would you leave your own guild behind just to go to the Black Temple? That's the choice that one guild's main tank was faced with, and he chose to leave his guild behind. And then they chose to log on to his account, and as payback, as you can see in the movie above, delete every one of his characters.
Ouch is right. Not quite sure that was called for (although, as someone points out, since he's got such a clear record of everything that was deleted, he'll probably be able to get it back from Blizzard). Still, not exactly the best way to congratulate your guildie on getting "promoted." That drama, and much more in this week's GW, which starts right after the jump. Want to send us juicy drama of your own? Drop a tip to wowguildwatch@gmail.com.
DRAMA
- Valhalla on Stormreaver-H had a fun little /gquit happen on their first night in Magtheridon's Lair. Apparently their MT (according to our tipster) hasn't been doing his job holding aggro the last few weeks "like he used to," either because of gear or spec problems. So apparently after getting tired of being told "lrn2tank," he split on them in the middle of a raid. That must be a happy feeling for everyone involved.
- The GM of Rotten Apple on Feathermoon-H sent us a note to say she appreciated our note about her guild beating Gruul last week, and says she's been through hell to get it done-- when she started up the guild in April, apparently there was a huge drama thread about how she killed guilds (because she's been in a lot of guilds that had run their course in the past), and apparently "Horde raiding on Feathermoon is like clawing your way up from the depths of a very deep grave." Ouch! Seriously, grats on the kill, and she promises good things ahead. Good luck!
- An anonymous tipster says Rune on Maelstrom-A just rolled through a bit of drama-- apparently two of their Kara groups rolled right through, but the third group was having issues, and insiders say it was because the raidleader would rather cyberflirt with a girl than help the raid progress. The good news is that apparently they got it evened out (by evening out the groups), but we haven't heard what happened to the important part: did that guy get the girl or not?
- Someone anonymous says that now that the attunements have been lifted on SSC and the Eye, lots of guild are apparently "looking to cherry pick the easier bosses like Void Reaver." Um, yeah, so? They still drop good loot, don't they? I see no problem with guilds that don't have the gear or the talent to beat, say, Vashj, taking out bosses like Void Reaver or Hydross. Bosses are made to be killed.
- And finally, Krystalle gave me this nice bit of guild drama from Livejournal: After a Lightning's Blade guild's Main Tank /gquit to join a guild that was working on Black Temple, someone logged into his account and deleted all his characters. Yes, really. Oh, and the best part is that there's a movie (also above) and a TS recording of the aftermath. Yet another reason never to share your info with anyone-- anyone-- even if they're trusted guildies.
- Another report on the progress of Hellscreams Marauders from Frostmane-H (not -mourn, which is apparently what I said last time, probably because I think it sounds better): they're past Curator (downed Maiden with a no-death one-shot, which is what we call around here a "Flawless Victory"), and are working on Illhoof and Shade. They're also recruiting tanks, healers and DPS-- check the site.
- Acta Non Verba on Gurubashi killed off the Prince. Noice!
- Fidelis on Elune-A just taught a lesson to Karazhan-- they cleared the whole thing for the first time in two days. Hardcore. Plus, check out their awesome photobox gallery. I'm amazed! (or maybe just easily amused)
- Isengard on Darkspear also laid waste to Karazhan, dropping Attumen, Moroes and the Maiden on their first attempt and the Opera on the second. Later in the week, they rocked the Curator, too. Grats!
- Dawn of Damnation on Quel'Dorei-A says they're claiming the server first kill of Gruul this week-- apparently the Hordies over there did down him, but they had to combine their top raiding guilds to do it.
- Redeemed on Burning Blade-A has been doing well-- they dropped Gruul, Kara got cleared by group 2, and they're through phase two on Magtheridon. But they're still looking for a few more shadow priests (or as they like to call them "mana batteries"), and a resto shaman along with a moonkin.
- Anvil on Stormscale-A has three teams beating Karazhan, and are now trying to get it down to 2 nights each. They also have downed Gruul.
- Monkey Crew on Andorhal-A dropped Gruul, Mag, and Void Reaver all in one five hour night! Awesome. And oh yeah pix are here.
- Lost Souls on Bleeding Hollow only formed on July 4th, and already they've downed Attumen, Moroes, and the Maiden. Very nice!
- Carebear Refugees on Ursin-H dropped Gruul, and are still looking for high end healers.
- The New Inquisition on Blackhand-A is proud to say that "after many attempts and some very bad puns, we finally downed Gruul!" Grats! On the kill, I mean, not the puns.
- Hostile Tranquility of Moonrunner dropped Gruul (off at the park to play with his friends, right?), and have their sights set on SSC and the Eye.
- And finally, Drop Bears (one of GW's favorite guilds) has finished off Karazhan! Woot!
- Invíctus (who didn't think I'd get that accented i in there-- shows what they know) on Alexstrazsa-A needs a great tank for Kael'thas. They're willing to take a Prot Warrior, a Bear Druid, or, *gasp* a Protection Paladin. They must be really desperate!
- Angry Lazer Monkeys on Frostwolf-H is still looking for good healers or offhealers for Gruul.
- Lucidity on Thorium Brotherhood-A (crazy RPers) is also looking for healers to fill out their Karazhan groups.
- Forsaken on EU Draenor-H is looking for Pallies, Shammies, Priesties, and Warriors... ies... for their first Karazhan team, and more if possible.
- Victory or Whatever (winner of this week's Best Guild Name Award) on Aggramar-A is recruiting for the first time in over a year-- they want shadow Priests, resto Shamans and Druids, a few other healers, and a Warlock and DPS Melee class to help them out in Kara and Gruul.
- The Covenant of Syrinx on Llane-H is seeking mature players tired of PUGs and seeking good guild groups for the later 5mans, and later on, Karazhan and Zul'Aman.
- Intensity on Kilrogg is a guild with a great raiding background looking for more great raiders of almost all different classes for SSC and the Eye three times a week.
- Eternium Raiders on Shu'halo-A needs healers and DPS to fill out a group of 25 for late game raiding.
Filed under: Guilds, Instances, Raiding, Guildwatch, Bosses






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
VegasHorde Jul 17th 2007 7:10PM
Uh, never give your password to anyone, it's not rocket science people!
Ella Jul 17th 2007 7:15PM
Why do you assume everyone who reads this blog is a casual wow gamer like you? Why is it so hard to believe some might be just.. "hardcore raiders"? Almost like you're talking about aliens. I play this game for pve raid progress.
epsilon343 Jul 17th 2007 7:17PM
Aside from the fact that he should've known not to give a guild mate his account info...that sucks. I'm by no means a high level character and I know that I would probably just walk away if something like that happened, and I'm only halfway to the top.
That's pretty childish of that guild too, you don't sign your life and characters away to the guild once you join and you can come and go as you please so it's ridiculous that someone would be so upset as to destroy that person's entire account and all the work he put into it just because he left for a high position. Hope he gets everything back.
Athryn Jul 17th 2007 7:22PM
Thanks Guildwatch, it's good to know we're one of your favorites.
We're recruiting also btw! Stop by and say hi!
Athryn Jul 17th 2007 7:23PM
Er .... Drop Bears that is. :P
redxiii Jul 17th 2007 7:29PM
Wow... whoever did this should really get his account suspended. I mean what the hell... did he think that MT was his slave or something? Oh my god... David Beckham is also changing Teams from time to time; its just a game.
I hope some day this might even be considered as destruction of property and get sanctioned by the state; simply because youre investing so much time in achieving a status like the MT had.
I really hope he gets back everything.
Derelict Jul 17th 2007 7:28PM
It's despicable, but understandable.
Nobody gets outfitted to be a main tank without huge sacrifices from their guild. Loot is usually preferentially given to the MT first, then trickled down into the rest of the raid, just to keep progression moving.
So, he screwed over the folks that enabled him to BE the MT for a large raiding guild, and they screwed him over by deleting the items.
Shame on both of them.
D
Verit Jul 17th 2007 7:30PM
Whats really terrible is on the TS recording those guys make it sound like its his fault.
dreadlorde Jul 17th 2007 7:37PM
wow..what a bunch of ass holes.
DontLetsStart Jul 17th 2007 10:01PM
You give your password out to other people, you pretty much deserve what you get. Can't say I have a lot of sympathy. I mean this type of stuff is exactly why accounts have passwords rather than just letting any random person log into them!
Shotgunbadger Jul 17th 2007 7:49PM
GUYS! All he did was ditch the guild that MADE him even remotly able to MT raids just because another guild asked him to and they were on "ZOMG BLACK TEMPLE"! How DARE these people be mad at him.
That guy can eat me, he deserved what he got, this wasn't some "Hey guys, I really am greatful for all you did but we're not progressing fast enough, let me help newbies get keyed" and they shot him down so he left, this was some "Lol, gotta get my Professer Plums, cyas!" assholery.
Coherent Jul 17th 2007 8:07PM
@2, Because most of the people who are reading this ARE casual. I've been hardcore in the past (it was boring), and my opinion is that hardcore raiders ARE aliens.
Zero Jul 17th 2007 8:13PM
It's not like guilds have only one tank and that's it. So they spend the time to gear out one of their OTs to be the main tank...he/she should have decent gear as it is.
I support Blizz banning the entire guild that did this unless someone steps up and admits it. I didn't know guild association was signed in a contract of blood, but I guess some people take this a little too seriously. Sending a ticket to the GMs to confirm that the gear could never be restored was just icing on the cake.
True, this guy was REALLY stupid for sharing his account information, but you can't possibly support this sort of behavior on behalf of his old guild. How does that make you feel better? Now you're out a MT AND you'll have Blizz knocking on your door with some disciplinary action. Must be nice to still be in middle school...
Coherent Jul 17th 2007 8:12PM
The thing is, when you join a hardcore guild, they often think that they own the epics that you've earned, and you're just renting them or something.
Hardcore guilds think that when you leave, you're "stealing" the epics that they "gave" you. In their mind, they were just taking back what the player was "stealing".
When I was hardcore, I was an officer in the guild. I considered that attitude bullshit then and I still do today.
When you earn an epic, you EARNED it, it's yours over and done with. That's why DKP was necessary, because then there was no B.S. about the guild owning your equipment and thus doing what these retards did.
Aeneas Jul 17th 2007 8:36PM
No one deserves to have his characters deleted in this way.
Homer Jul 17th 2007 8:37PM
I know its a strange thing to say about the video, but on top of being a completely dick move by whoever did it to the guy, they have horrible production values, seriously, HORRIBLE
That is all.
Tobie Jul 17th 2007 8:58PM
This isn't limited to just Main Tanks. Main healers and top DPS gets pulled into higher raids all the time. As MT, I get left behind a lot!
Lets face it, from 10 man to 25 man, there are too many tanks left behind. I don't blame him for going to the temple. It is very rare that someone needs a MT for a 25 man.
G Jul 17th 2007 9:05PM
This was obviously done by children, or people with the mental age of a child. Anyone with any real life experience knows that you will get your chance at revenge some time in the future. It might not be right away, but it will come. And it shall be sweet.
Naj Jul 17th 2007 9:54PM
This is pure BS tbh. Does it mean that cos you became a MT (and MT position is not something that every warrior craves for. Mostly it's just assigned to the best skilled tank in the guild), you are forever bound to your guild cos you got epic'd up?
@2, QFT :>
Ingaverson Jul 18th 2007 9:03PM
As a guild MT myself (currently still in Kara) i'd be gutted if my former guildmates did this.
Guilds work as teams, yes MT's and Main Healers sometimes get preferrence on kit but fact is if you want to progress good tanking and healing is essential.
If you working as a team then the Tank earns his equipment. The rest of the guild can't claim to own his kit as much as he can't claim to own theirs. Have they paid for all his enchants? Do they cover his repairs bills? Or costs for him to respec if needed? I doubt it.
So lesson learnt... never join Lightning's Blade and most certainly never ever ever give your account details to anyone, at all, ever.