by Elizabeth Harper 
Jul 22nd 2007 at 2:55PM
Filed under: Two Bosses Enter, Bosses
| Event | Date |
|---|---|
| Love Is In the Air | 2/2 - 2/15 |
| Blackrock Foundry Normal and Heroic open | 2/3 |
| Darkmoon Faire | 2/8 - 2/15 |
| Blackrock Foundry Mythic opens | 2/10 |
| Lunar Festival | 2/16 - 3/2 |
| Blackrock Foundry LFR wing 1 opens | 2/17 |
| Blackrock Foundry LFR wing 2 opens | 2/24 |
| Darkmoon Faire | 3/1 - 3/8 |
| Blackrock Foundry LFR wing 3 opens | 3/10 |
| Blackrock Foundry LFR wing 4 opens | 3/24 |
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
overneathe Jul 22nd 2007 4:45PM
Show just how much players know about Razuvious.
jess Jul 22nd 2007 5:07PM
any chance after this boss vs boss deathmaatch you guys would consider doing a "wandering mob that ganks you when you're leveling" deathmatch? I'd love to see who'd come out on top: wandering void reaver, son of arugal, Teremus the Devourer or Hogger. (actually that's probably a no brainer, as Hogger can pwn all)
Nick Thomas Jul 22nd 2007 5:59PM
People dont know who razuv is >.>
xgx Jul 22nd 2007 6:25PM
the outcome of this fight shows how many casual-gaming scrubs actually use wowinsider. anyone who has been through the raz encounter knows that there is no way rag could take him, adds or no adds. and speaking of adds, you did not include the adds for this fight, yet in the jin'do/moam fight jin'do's shade and skelly adds were cited as the reason moam would lose. you need to come up with specific guidelines for these fights and stick to them.
WatcherZero Jul 22nd 2007 6:42PM
Yeah, some bosses rely on having adds as part of the fight, others do all the fighting themselves, its unfair to compare a fight like Razuvious where He does insane melee dmg that only his Mc'ed adds can mitigate 40k dmg a hit on rag would down him in under a minute! and fights like Sartura whose essentially a chaotic multiple adds fight, Hydross whose trick is either you let his smg stack impossibly high or you make him spawn adds. With a boss like Chrommagus, Tidewalker or void reaver.
jess Jul 22nd 2007 6:51PM
*eyeroll* If wowinsider readers were just a bunch of casual scrubs then why did Sapphiron beat out Onyxia by a such a huge margain when a huge percentage of voters had probably only downed Ony?
jess Jul 22nd 2007 6:54PM
Furthermore if this boss deathmatch thing is based solely on difficulty of raid progression can we just skip ahead to the Illidan vs Achimonde fight and call it a day? /yawn
xgx Jul 22nd 2007 7:14PM
it's not based upon the difficulty of raid progression, it's based upon the difficulty of the boss itself. if you have ever fought raz before you would know that it would be impossible for ragnaros to kill him because of the ridiculous damage he puts out. i was simply saying that due to the lack of progression by the vast majority of wowinsider users these fights are more of a popularity contest than an actual measure of which boss is stronger.
TotalBiscuit Jul 22nd 2007 7:13PM
jess - I believe what he's trying to say is that people are making judgements based simply on how much they like the boss, rather than the actual mechanics of the fights which they are obviously not familiar with. Saph vs Ony is pretty simple. One has more HP and does more damage than the other = gg. Everyone knows Saph is more dangerous than Ony but how many really know how Razuvious works. For instance that he must be tanked using his mind-controlled ads and will 1-shot raid tanks and anyone else for that matter?
As I recall, Rag doesn't have mindcontrol, and would be taken apart in seconds.
Devega Jul 22nd 2007 7:34PM
To quote the 'Two bosses enter article',
"Before you answer this question (Rag vs. Raz), we're presuming that both of these bosses are approximately the same level and strength. But comparing their fighting style, who do you think comes out on top?"
Raz doesn't have Fire resist (that I'm aware of), and Rag does have armor.
Venkman90 Jul 22nd 2007 8:14PM
What I see is people trying to flex their epeens with the whole "i went to naxx kk mouthbreathers" yet as the contest stated, Raz ans Rag would be the same lvl, so their respective HP / DPS is irrelevant,the abilitys are what matters.
The match up's are just a bit of fun, flawed as they are as the adds on alot of bosses make the fight what it is, but could people refrain from tying to validate themselves with the "u r all botomfeeders" bull.
Oh and can we get the match up we all want, Buru v Hogger for the egg smashing win
Mrtheman Jul 23rd 2007 2:01AM
Even if the bosses were balanced out, players tank Ragnoros, players can't tank Razuvious. To say people are just flexing their e-peen is the biggest joke I've ever heard, Apparently nobody comprehends how much damage he does, but it would probably work out to 5 times more then Rag a hit. Enough said.
Venkman90 Jul 23rd 2007 4:15AM
@12 but with Rag's knockback how would he do said dmg? stop assuming we don't know the boss, I never fought him but a few of my guildys did pre TBC.
overneathe Jul 23rd 2007 5:40AM
No, that's just one knockback every 25 (iirc) seconds. What the hell is that gonna do? The other knockback requires a mana pool, Raz ain't got one.
Hard choice...
Tiago Jul 23rd 2007 5:52AM
/knockback
/magma blast
/magma blast
/magma blast
/knockback
/magma blast
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.
.
How many hits would raz be able to get in between the knockbacks?
Would they compensate for magma blast's 6k dps?
I say Blizzard actually spawns both in a room so we can be done with the speculation. ;P
Tridus Jul 23rd 2007 5:59AM
@4
You know that somewhere around 90% of players never did Naxx, right? Calling them "scrubs" just makes you look like a moron.
Face it, by the only measure of content that matters (the number of people having fun playing it), Naxx was a colossal failure. Its not a matter of "scrubs" vs "elitist jerks with too much time on their hands" as it is a simple failure on Blizzard's part to make content actually accessable to the playerbase.
Even they figured that out.
Matthew Rossi Jul 23rd 2007 3:17PM
I ran Naxx lots of times. And I voted for Rag, because frankly, Rag is cooler than a dork with a flattop who quotes the bad guy from the Karate Kid.
overneathe Jul 23rd 2007 7:43AM
@17
Which obviously makes Black Sea Studios better then Blizzard. I like their logo a lot more.
TotalBiscuit Jul 23rd 2007 8:03AM
Tiago - Yeah might wanna have another look at the mechanics of the Raz fight matey. He has adds, Rag wouldn't be able to knock em all back for 6k magma-blasts, there'd still be someone in base-to-base contact with him.
TB.
Tridus Jul 23rd 2007 8:26AM
@TotalBiscuit
Read the original post: "And to those talking about the Instructor's Deathknight Understudies -- remember, these fights are boss on boss, and don't take adds into account! Razuvious doesn't have his Understudies and Ragnaros doesn't get his Sons, either."
Its amazing how many people comment on these things without actually reading them.