High infidelity

If you've been anywhere on the WoW forums this weekend, you've probably heard the tale of Demeter and Gilgamesh from Onyxia. Demeter, the guild leader of Dirty Sons of Liches, posted on his realm forums that he had discovered Gilgamesh, his wife, was being "too friendly" with members of his guild in Vent. In return, he offered GMship of his guild to anyone who could provide him with more information and details about the Vent infidelities.
The drama exploded, featuring screenshots, videos, supposed confessions from cyberers -- all without the involvement of Gilgamesh, who is suppposedly away for the weekend. Demeter attempted to backtrack and claim the whole thing was a hoax, but he eventually printed the character name of one of the accused -- and the real name and phone number of another. I assume that post is going to be deleted quickly, so I'm not going to link it. Whether it's real adultery, or merely the best troll ever, remains to be decided.
Yes, it's just another tale of sordid e-drama, but it's a good example of something I've seen happen more than once in WoW. A couple plays WoW together, they join a guild, maybe they even rise to guild leadership -- and then one of the two hooks up with another player they met online, destroying the relationship/marriage/guild.
A friend of mine, "Skwisgaar", had this unfortunate series of events happen to him some time ago, and he's agreed to talk to me about what went down, and how other WoW players can avoid getting e-cuckolded.
Skwisgaar and his fiancee had been together for a year when he began playing in the WoW beta. His fiancee got interested in the game while watching the beta, and he bought her a copy of WoW for Christmas. They had been playing as a couple for about a year when his fiancee began receiving phone calls from guildmates.
According to Skwisgaar, his fiancee was getting suspicious phone calls from one of her rogue guildmates. A while later, she told him she "needed a break" and was going to visit her brother at college. When she returned from the visit, she wanted to get back together. But Skwisgaar had an inkling that the visit hadn't been to her brother's, and confronted her one night after he caught her talking suggestively on the phone in bed while she thought he was asleep. She admitted that she had actually gone to a different city and slept with her guildmate, and the wedding (and relationship) was off.
WoW Insider: So what happened in-game after that?
Skwisgaar: What's awesome about it is that after I dumped her, guys on the server started coming out of the woodwork with information about cyber/phone/webcam stuffshe had done with them. She even was trying to hook up with one guy while visiting some of her friends, but I ended up coming along for that trip and she had to call it off at the last second or something.
Did what happened affect your view of the game?
Not particularly. I've always been pretty good at drawing a distinction between bad people and the medium through which i communicate with them. I still really enjoy playing. It definitely helps that right around the time I dumped her I started with my first "hardcore" raiding guild so I could at least have e-peen contests in general chat with her new BF.
What do you think about the Onyxia drama?
I think it's hilarious. It kind of makes me wish I had been more public about the stuff that went down with my fiancee. I think the humor value would have eased the pain a lot.
There's been a lot of this stuff going around various servers. Why do you think WoW-related infidelity seems to be so common?
I don't think it's any more common than any other kind of infidelity. It's just one more social context. It just seems funnier to us because MMOs are a relatively new and unfamiliar medium for it.
So what advice would you give couples who play WoW?
See above. People's darkest personality traits come out in full effect on the Internet. I'd say that if you are the least bit uneasy about your SO going out to a bar with maybe two or three hundred other people around, that it wouldn't be the wisest choice to turn them loose with nine million people online. I firmly believe that if my ex hadn't done what she did with someone from the game, she would have with someone else that she met in another way. She's the one who screwed up; all WoW did was provide the opportunity.
Are there any warning signs people should look out for?
If they seem like they're hiding something, they probably are. Don't buy into any "invading my privacy" defense unless unaffected third parties also tell you that you're being paranoid. If it is truly serious, you should have nothing to hide from one another. If one partner is hiding something and claims it is on principle, I will stake money on there being substance to the other's suspicions. Every time. The reasoning is that if they truly weren't doing anything they didn't want you to know about, putting your fears to rest would be more important to them.
Filed under: Virtual selves, Odds and ends






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
g8rCody Aug 13th 2007 2:22PM
just another day on Dramyxia.
Markymark Aug 13th 2007 2:35PM
I'm kate to this can someone tell me how it all went down lol. I luvs me some E-Drama.
Medros Aug 13th 2007 3:08PM
I have had this happen to me not once but twice on my home realm. The first time was someone I knew out of game and had convinced to come to the realm. Early on I knew another had interest, but I thought I understood the situation. I was wrong, and when the facts(or those I was willing to reveal) came out, it hurt and I took a break from WoW. The second time didn't hurt as much because I kept my distance from the whole relationship. Once bitten, twice shy. My only advice would be for those on RP realms, make sure you know where things stand IRL, so RP can't be blamed.
hashpipe Aug 13th 2007 3:10PM
FIRST AND FORMOST: ANY WOMAN WHO Says "NEEDS A BREAK" MEANS THEY DONT WANT U OR NEEDS A NEW PIECE OF MAN-MEAT!
PyroAmos Aug 13th 2007 3:23PM
dmn that was the last of the 3 guilds in SSC that were still alive... glad I left that guild and rerolled a new char on another server lo, even if it was just cause their raid times were incapatable with mine, and they were the only raiding guild left on the server, I hate drama, and that looks like horrid drama. wonder if they'll fall apart or survive through it.
pr0gR4m3R Aug 13th 2007 3:33PM
Can happen anywhere.. at disco.. in a friends trip.. that your BF or GF does the wrong this. This is nothing to do with WoW
Skwisgaar is quite right... and sure he´ll find another person who considerates him better
Regis Aug 13th 2007 3:42PM
Holy crap that's some EPIC drama there
Beaverius Aug 13th 2007 6:11PM
Hell yeah, E-cuckholed is easily the funniest thing i've heard on wowinsider.
You know, Mozart used the horns to a similar humourous effect in the marriage of figaro.
Se vuol ballllare signore contino
Coherent Aug 13th 2007 4:22PM
That guy Skwisgaar has his head screwed on TIGHT, I love it. He rocks.
Case in point:
"I don't think it's any more common than any other kind of infidelity. It's just one more social context."
and
"if my ex hadn't done what she did with someone from the game, she would have with someone else that she met in another way. She's the one who screwed up; all WoW did was provide the opportunity."
The man restores my faith in humanity with those words. He's an epic voice among common thinkers. Props for staying sane.
Wartooth Aug 13th 2007 5:48PM
Skwisgaar Skwigelf Taller than a tree. Toki Wartooth not a bumble bee
dude Aug 13th 2007 5:50PM
pigorian on gorefiend does this too.
Gasher Aug 13th 2007 6:10PM
Oh please people...this is a complete hoax. Use some common sense and read the posts and it will become clear.
Zechs Aug 13th 2007 9:08PM
Drop the bomb, exterminate them all.
Benamang Aug 13th 2007 11:01PM
Granted, my wife had already told me she wanted a divorce, but within 2 weeks of her announcement, she was carrying on with a guy in her guild 16 years younger than her, making plans to meet up with him 1000 miles away...her escapism totally trashed any chance we had at reconciliation.
Now granted, WoW did not CAUSE our breakup, but it did not help. My first clue that our marriage was in disarray should have come when she rolled an Alliance toon on a different server...my bad. For the Horde!
Benamang Aug 13th 2007 11:05PM
Sorry for the redundant and gratuitous use of "granted."
BigChiefSmokem Aug 14th 2007 12:37AM
All's fair in Love and Warcraft
Juwon Aug 14th 2007 5:32AM
Ok I have to put my hand up… I had a part in infidelity too once. It not the game but the individual or people involved. You never plan these things, it just happens and in most case, there is nothing you can do about it.
I was the other person…
My story is slightly different but WOW did play some part in it. I cannot say too much about it cause you never no who is read or looking at you.
We meet at a guilds party that was also one of the members birthday…
I will leave it there but if you want to no more just ask…
My only advice to anyone in a relationship or have a family, make sure they come first and foremost. Playing a game or blaming the other person is not entirely their fault. By you spending that much time in your VR world, you miss out on what is Real and more important.
Yes like Skwisgaar said, she will eventually have done it with someone else. That maybe true, but you can never say that for sure.
Everything is relative. There are so much factors that causes someone to do some. The biggest factor is we are still animals weather you like it or not, we always want more, what we can’t have, the adventure, the excitement, the attention.
Looking for Love... Aug 14th 2007 8:49AM
Hey, uh... more importantly, does anyone have Gilgamesh's number?
PyroAmos Aug 14th 2007 10:24AM
@18 i don't think you wanna mess with that, she plays a warlock :o
Drain Aug 14th 2007 12:54PM
@9
Nathan Explosion!!!