Encrypted Text: How not to be seen
If you've ever watched Monty Python (and of course you have), you've probably seen the wonderful informational film "How Not To Be Seen." It takes the form of a crash course on how not to be detected, with explosive consequences for anyone who fails. Among the tips are not to stand up, not to choose an obvious hiding place, and not to let anyone know where you're planning on taking your holiday.
How Not To Be Seen reminds me a lot of questing and world PVP as a rogue. As long as you're invisible, you're fine -- but if you get caught out in the open, prepare to get pyroblasted into eternity. Other classes have huge swords, the light of the gods, demonic powers, endless channels of arcane magic, angry animal companions, and the powers of nature itself. We've got, what, two measly daggers? No wonder we need to hide.
So this week, Encrypted Text will present some tips -- both physical and psychological -- on how not to be detected when in stealth.
Physical tips: Increasing your stealth level
There are different levels of stealth, which explains why you can see level 20something characters in stealth clearly but can't see level 70s until they're right on top of you. According to WoWWiki, which is good at stuff like this, stealth and stealth detection are measured in invisible "subtlety" and "detection" stats. The Subtlety stat increases by 5 with each level for rogues and druids, so that's kind of your baseline. Subtlety decreases the range at which players and mobs can see you or "notice" you (when mobs turn towards you and freeze for a few seconds.)
Unfortunately, everyone has a competing stat called detection, which also increases at 5 points per level. This lets people see you at greater distances. That's why 70 warriors can detect 56 druids easily -- their detection skill greatly outranks the druid's stealth skill.
But there are number of things you can do to increase your stealth level. For starters, you can be a night elf. The Shadowmeld ability gives 5 extra points in subtlety as a passive, "invisible" bonus, so it's like having an extra level of stealth. You can also take the Master of Deception talent in the (surprise!) Subtlety tree, which gives you 3 points in subtlety for every talent point you spend. Sure, it's more inefficient than the druid's 5 points in subtlety per talent point in their Feral Instinct, but at least rogues don't have to suffer the indignity of hunters attempting to tame them.
Aside from that, there are a lot of items that increase your stealth level by a certain number. A full list can be found here, but notable (as in obtainable post-BC -- I doubt you're going to get a group to go to Naxx these days) items include:
- Sneaking Potion: +30 for 1 minute
- Silent-Strider Kneeboots: +5
- The Master's Treads: +5
- Figurine: Nightseye Panther: +5
- Whisperwalk Boots: +5
- Nightscape Boots: +5
- Figurine: Black Pearl Panther: +3
Assuming again that you don't go into Naxx, rolled a Night Elf, and put five points in Master of Deception, you can stealth like a level 76 if you get the right gear -- and like a level 82 if you pop the sneaking potion.
But there are also a number of things that increase your opponent's detection level. The most familiar is the human racial Perception, which gives them a +50 to detection for 20 seconds. The hunter ability Track Hidden gives them +30, the felhunter's Paranoia gives a warlock +30 as well, and the rogue talent Heightened Senses gives us +3 for every talent point. There are also a number of items that increase detection. (Before you yell at me for using Thottbot instead of Wowhead, finding items with certain auras is the one area where I still think Thottbot is easier to use.)
- All epic engineering goggles: +5
- All druid PVP gloves: +10
- The Night Watchman: +10
- Hyper-Vision Goggles: +30 for 15 seconds
- Bloodvine Lens: +10
- Catseye Ultra Goggles: +18
- Catseye Elixir: +10 for 10 minutes
- Elixir of the Searching Eye: +15 for 10 minutes
As you can see, there are a lot more physical tools to detect stealth than there are to increase it. So how do we still stay hidden? We use sneakiness to make sure that they don't even know we're there.
Sneakiness tips: Moving around in stealth
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The easiest way to not be detected is to stay behind someone! Being in a 180 degree arc in front of the target gives you a much greater chance to be detected. Stay behind them.
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You can't really do too much about the "stealth sound", aside from hoping that your enemy doesn't have their headphones on or speakers turned up.
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In PVE, monsters will turn towards you or speak when they're on the edge of detecting your stealth. If you freeze and don't move at this point, they will usually turn away after a few seconds, allowing you to continue on. In PVP, this obviously doesn't work.
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In PVE, you can distract mobs to turn away from you so you can sneak around the back of them, avoiding that 180 degree arc. In PVP, you can distract, but it's not quite as useful because it instantly alerts your target that there's a rogue there. Its best use is if they've already spotted you and are running away. You can distract them to turn their screen around and stall them while you catch up.
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A lot of players have mods these days that tell them when their opponent uses certain abilities, even if said opponent isn't appearing on your screen or in combat with you. This means that if you stealth somewhere near these characters, they'll get a message that says "Xxroguexx: *Stealth*", which is like a neon yellow "Use your AOEs now!" sign. WoWWiki suggests that you stealth farther away and then loop behind your opponent.
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This may sound cheesy, but hiding in bushes, behind trees, and on the other side of walls can really help you in PVP, whether you're trying to attack someone or just hoping that the higher-level players doesn't notice you so you can keep questing. You'll still appear semi-transparent if the player comes close enough, but because you're over a dynamic background, they might just pass you by. Unfortunately, there are no camo uniforms in WoW, so that won't help, nor can you paint your face the color of the bushes.
Do you have any tips on how not to be seen?
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Dryssa Sep 5th 2007 5:27PM
I love this video.
Zor Sep 5th 2007 5:31PM
the first thing the eye detects is movement
second dark to light contrast
third colors - red being the slowest - the brain tends to remember it best, hence red is used as warning signs/markers
i have stayed in bushes stealthed by toons being way higher then I, if you think your spotted. do not move.
futura Sep 5th 2007 5:53PM
"Do you have any tips on how to not be seen?"
Yes. Roll a gnome rogue.
A ninja is a ninja, but a smaller one is always harder to detect. =)
Especially for hiding in bushes.
Xevious Sep 6th 2007 12:00AM
Use /sit or /lay to further reduce your chance of detection...I've had player inches away and still didn't detect my presence.
Janessriel Sep 5th 2007 6:14PM
When I lived in AB on my old rogue, I would tend to move around the map stealthed most of the time. I did that because 1) if I'm heading to a base and stealth, someone could tell whoever's guarding the base in chat that I'm coming, 2) I know about hunter tracking (having had a hunter too) so if I was a blip on their radar and then not, then they know something's coming. I was also Sub spec so I had Master of Deception also, which helped.
It would take me a bit longer to get things done, but they would get done better than if I did it without. I used to be able to scout and camp bases and take them alone because no one knew I was there or coming at all.
Basically, I took the fact that it was actual players playing rather than computers to my advantage. I always felt stealth was huge in PVP and not so much in PVE. There's always parts where it is, sure, but I never used to crawl around Desolace stealthed or anything.
Snuzzle Sep 5th 2007 6:42PM
I always like to hide in bushes or behind/in rocks, etc. I know I am giving away my secret, but I'm betting a lot of folks do this too... when I am guarding the AB flags, I always hide in the nearby bushes. They're far enough away that I don't get hit by that conc/aoe that the potential capper may fire off when he runs in to the flag, but close enough that I can quickly close in for the kill after it wears off. :)
Also, making yourself small like 3 said. If your reaction time is quick enough that you won't get hit sitting, make your character sit or lay down. Gnome rogues and Belf female rogues are at an advantage here because while stealthed and not moving they are very very low to the ground and small.
If by chance you DO get spotted, RUN STRAIGHT AT THE ENEMY. I've found most don't expect this, they expect you to run away, and don't react in time. Run through them, hit them with a stun if you have it, and high tail it straight through and away. If you find another good hiding spot, and you are far enough away, stealth again and pray to god they don't find you again. lol
Ken Lydell Sep 5th 2007 7:45PM
In spite of 5 points in Master of Deception my L40 human rogue couldn't pick pockets of L40 trolls in the Hinterlands without being detected. When my rogue hit L40 I was notified that her stealth had increased. The resulting improvement was dramatic. I suspect there may be a little more to how rogue stealth scales up with experience than is covered in the article above.
Anon Sep 5th 2007 7:58PM
I remember when Joystiq itself posted that movie made with the graphics of Halo...priceless. In case people haven't already seen it:
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/27/halo-meets-monty-python/
bill gates Sep 5th 2007 11:10PM
It's hard to believe there use to be a show this fcking smart and funny on television. Monty Python was so vastly superior to any of the crap on TV today it makes me wish I was a lumberjack :(
Shadowisp Sep 5th 2007 11:26PM
Look at the related movies...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt8UqivWUEI
Just wish the engineers could of made bigger explosions :P
yotix Sep 6th 2007 4:29AM
Hint: BBC productions are usually copyrighted. AFAIK you are risking both your site and a hefty fine by illegally posting copyrighted movies on your site.
Thasia Sep 6th 2007 3:10PM
Hiding inside large dead mobs is handy, or in crowds, it's hard to pick out one shadowy stealthed rogue from all the toons around. But the handiest thing is to be where they are not. Don't walk down paths or roads, and if possible, hop up on something. Being at a higher elevation increases your stealth chance. Stay out of the range of casters who AOE and run around, and don't move in close until you're ready to fight. They'll waste mana using arcane explosion to see if you're standing behind them.