Guildwatch: Salute to guildleaders
by Mike Schramm 
Oct 10th 2007 at 1:29AM
Time once again for Guildwatch, your weekly look at drama, downed, and recruiting news from around the realms. As always, your tips fuel this space-- send them (anonymous or otherwise) to wowguildwatch@gmail.com. Click the link below to see today's GW.
DRAMA
- One final update from Winchester, the Paladin (now of Condemned on Shattered Halls-A who was trying to solo tank the entirety of Karazhan. He's got everything down except Netherspite, and that debuff is giving him too much trouble. Other than that, though, everything else is his, and his alone-- the healers have to pay attention on Ghostly Stewards, Moroes (obviously-- he asked the casters to stand away a little bit in order to deal with Blind and Gouge), and Skeletal Ushers, but if he gets Romulo and Julianne (apparently it's tough to keep aggro on both of them but he can do it), he can solo tank the whole thing as a Paladin. Very impressive-- if possible, I'd love to see a video of exactly how it's done. And someone else wrote in about a Paladin named Dreamevil in Fifth Street on Gnomeregan who apparently will tank anything you throw at him. So I'm convinced-- Paladins can tank. I just haven't seen it personally yet. Coincidentally, I was in a PUG just this afternoon to do Heroic Mechanar, and a Paladin tanked the first few pulls very admirably. Except someone (not me) accidentally aggroed, we half wiped, and the Pally disconnected on us. So yeah, I haven't seen a real Paladin tanking run yet.
- In other news, Guildwatch got an invite to the WotLK beta! So long suckers, we're headed to level 80!
- Oh man, drama is going down big on Mok'nathal. They're a BC server, and they're just now getting around to the AQ Gate opening event, where you have to do a long chain to ring a gong outside of AQ. Someone named Fooman was apparently casually working through the questline, and a few other members of the realm were helping him out, led by the guild Resurrected. But a little while ago, someone named Jugador transferred on to the realm, and his guild SiNiX swept in and rang the gong themselves, late at night when no one else was ready or around to see it. Now, other members of the realm are unhappy about this-- apparently a raid was formed when it was discovered SiNiX was working on the quests to stop them, but to no avail. And they're all saying that Jugador, a transfer, robbed the realm of one of the coolest events in WoW. Apparently Fooman got the quest done real quick, and still got his scepter and title in time, so that's good, but still, Jugador opened the gates at 3 am, and almost no one saw the event itself.
- More drama rumors from Haven on EU Azjol-Neru. Our anonymous tipster says that things are falling apart over there-- the guildleader invited someone into the guild that other members didn't want around, causing the Priest class leader to /gquit, and problems with raiding have forced two main tanks to quit as well. This ship is sinking, says our tipster.
- The largest guild on Kirin Tor-H is, we're told, no more. The Rainmakers split up following arguments about recruiting policies and lack of raiding (they were only raiding six hours a week). A few members have reformed as Remnant to get a new start.
- Society of Shadows on Firetree-H had a little drama-- an officer didn't like the GM bad-mouthing someone who'd /gquit the guild, so he went on a /gkicking rampage of his own, clearing out the lowbies, and even /gkicking the GM's alt.
- I think this is the first "girl drama" tip we've had from the girl who supposedly caused the drama. "Apparently," says our tipster, "I'm a flirt, and cute," and her "outgoing personality" caused a lot of male guild members to spend time following her around, jumping on vent to speak with her, and so on. One day, she logged on to find out that she'd been /gkicked, because the GM supposedly believed she was singlehandledly keeping them from raid progressing. The joke's on him, though-- after she was kicked, people started quitting when they found out she wasn't around any more, and the entire 125 person guild fell apart. "I'm wondering," she says, "if it is possible for one woman to be the complete downfall of a guild." Well, is it?
- Here's a pretty cool downed story-- Kael'thas got downed by Accidentally over on EU Burning Legion (not by accident-- they had a good plan), and it was the culmination of the entire four months the guild has been around. Very cool, and even better, the Phoenix mount dropped, and Viremorth, who I gather started the guild months ago, got it. You can see their triumph in the pic above.
- Intensity on Kilrogg killed the Lurker Below, and they're looking for a few more to fill out their ranks as well.
- Risen on Proudmoore-A spent all day last Saturday and half of Sunday raiding Kael'thas, but it all paid off. They downed him after a whopping eight hours of attempts (I don't know how you guys did it-- my eyes would be melting out of my head by that point). And then, just for kicks, they went and two-shotted Rage Winterchill. Grats and all, but get some sleep!
- My raiding brethren on Thunderhorn-H, quiXotic, one-shotted Maulgar for the first time in a while, and then dropped Gruul. Congrats fellow Thorners!
- Modus Operandi on Sentinels-A has dropped Loot Reaver. At least that's what they're calling him now-- he's like a big loot pinata.
- Army of Darkness had been stuck on Moroes for a while, but no more-- they toppled the Steward of Karazhan, and then went on to finish off the Wizard of Oz event, and Curator.
- Dark Fist on Argent Dawn-A downed Tidewalker. Like most of Azeroth's denizens, they say they, too, hate murlocs.
- Lucidity on Thorium Brotherhood-A, finished off Hydross for an Alliance realm first! Grats! Lurker, in the parlance of our times, you're on notice. This aggression will not stand!
- Exiles on Medivh says "sup GW" (they're cool like that) and that they've downed Void Reaver. Lurker is on notice for these guys, too, so watch your back, TLB.
- Brotherhood of Nod on Burning Blade-H is an Aussie/NZ/West Coast/up-all-night East Coast guild that raids starting at 3 am server! They're working through Karazhan, and could use some good healers and DPS to back them up.
- StarGazer Clan on Elune-A is recruiting a Lock, a Mage, and Holy Priest and Pallys and Resto Druids and Shamans for farming Gruul and Karazhan and heading into SSC. They're short on drama and high on fun, and apparently "9 out of 10 First Aid trainers recommend us as an essential part of a healthy start to any WoW day!" I don't know where that science comes from, though-- probably not approved by the FDA.
- Awesome Lowbies (winner of this week's Best Guild Name award) is a UK-based guild on EU Dragonmaw looking for a few more rowdy Europeans to build up a second Kara group and head into Gruul's Lair.
- Reforged is a late-night raiding guild on Runetotem-H, and they're looking for a well-geared Prot Warrior to raid three nights a week with them in SSC and TK. Nice work if you can get it.
- Six Feet Under on Muradin-A (EU, I think) is looking for Mages, Warlocks, and anyone else willing to join them in taking on the 25 man content. They raid weekdays between 10 and 2 pacific time, so unemployed slackers only (I kid!).
- TheFallen on Burning Legion is looking for a few mature, well-geared members to help them out with raiding Gruul's and beyond.
- Naked Ambition on Llane is recruiting 70s to kill Netherspite, fill out a second Karazhan guild, and eventually head off into the great 25 man beyond (although I'm sure Zul'Aman will get some traffic as well). Look them up if you're on Llane and LFG.
- Eternal Darkness on Terokkar-H is looking for Priests and other healers 40+ to reach 70 and start the endgame with them.
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, Guilds, Odds and ends, Instances, Humor, Raiding, Guildwatch
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Syung Oct 10th 2007 3:20AM
One woman can destroy ANYTHING, man.
dotorion Oct 10th 2007 4:22AM
We have a girl in our guild that giggles just like the female gnomes. It's very cute on Vent ^^
Elarius Oct 10th 2007 4:33AM
Also Stercus Accidit on Thunderhorn EU got Kael'thas down 2 days ago so big shout out to Evilomen who has been motivating us the past few weeks to down definately one of the hardest bosses ever made.
Any guild leaders that have the guts to take ppl all the way have my respect.
jaxson_bateman Oct 10th 2007 8:41AM
@Last drama story - maybe we should ask Helen of Troy what one woman can be the cause of. ^__^
Jess Oct 10th 2007 9:38AM
Sounds like the last drama tip was from a guild princess. What a brat.
slayerboy Oct 10th 2007 9:56AM
I hate to tell you, but Eternal Darkness is no more.....big implosion Saturday night. Some members have went with another guild, a few of us have started our own guild Cest la Vie on the same server.
Just do a /who "Cest la Vie" and message anyone in the guild for an invite and we'll see what we can do. We're looking for anyone level 20+
Loneslayer
Hollywood Ron Oct 10th 2007 10:16AM
Women kill guilds all the time, including my former guild.
Todd Oct 10th 2007 10:33AM
Man oh man, poor Mok'nathal. I'd be raising some serious hell on that server if I was involved.
Pingmeister Oct 10th 2007 12:46PM
If that Guild collapsed it's not the woman who is to blame. It's the immature male players allowing themselves to be led around by the nose (or other appendage).
Hoestly, the men (more often than not BOYS) in that kind of situation are nothing other than pathetic.
Coherent Oct 10th 2007 1:44PM
Seems like the woman wants the blame in the case of the tipster.
The GM took the right action, but apparently far too late. If gkicking a flirt causes your guild to disintegrate, it's safe to say that the flirt was causing a distraction. If he had taken the action earlier, she wouldn't have had enough pull to break up the guild. It certainly seems like she wants to think that she was the cause of the breakup.
As for "Saluting the Guild Leaders"; who out there is worthy of it? I'm sure there must be some; men or women with Yoda-like wisdom and forbearance who work tirelessly for the good of their guild and its members.
Strangely though, we never hear of them. We only hear of the train wrecks... and there are A LOT OF GUILD TRAIN WRECKS. Most "Guild Leaders" are better known for things like favoritism, loot whoring, lying, cheating, stealing, causing drama, high-handed tyranny, and generally dishonoring the trust of their members.
Even in the guilds where everything seems to be going well this sort of thing happens, but it's kept quiet. In the guild where I was an officer, there was MASSIVE corruption of the guild bank and loot process to the benefit of the Guild Leader's "special friends". Too bad the "special friends" were incompetent hacks, or it wouldn't have been so bad. But it was always kept very quiet.
My point is that the bad vastly outnumbers the good. So very few guild leaders actually adhere rigorously to a system of law and order where all loot is shared transparently and fairly. Perhaps 5%, 10% of guilds at best, are paragons of virtue in this regard. The rest are corrupt.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Guernia Oct 10th 2007 1:58PM
Ph_O_E_nix.
Spellcheck your work next time Mike.
WinchesterSH Oct 10th 2007 3:17PM
Winchester the paladin here, just like to correct something. The guild is Contingent, and not Condemned :)
There wasnt drama involved, we were just starting fresh with a new less casual image.
Oh and i do heroics aswell without crowd control.
A tank is only as good as his healer.
Also ive perfected my solo tanking of Moroes.
Theo Oct 10th 2007 3:17PM
The Fallen on Burning Legion is another sinking ship as of last night. The core group (real life friends) had been in negotiations with Soul Frost for a merger. However, the 'clique' opted to not inform the general populace of the guild and instead whispered guildies that they wanted to migrate with them in a rather unintelligent manner over the last few days(i.e. inviting players to come but not inviting their siblings,GF's or BF's, so much for secrecy....). Then last night those in negotiations all guild quit without so much as a 'goodbye, good luck' or even an explanation other than 'read the forums'. Some drama ensued as some left behind were agitated by the secretive nature of the merger. The Fallen will still exist as at least a tag but its future is uncertain (raiding is probably out) as the vent is being canceled and the website subscription will run out in Feb. Those interested in whatever with the guild should whisper whoever they can find online for more info. That being said:
=The Rainbow Connection= is now recruiting!!! We run ZF and Mara every Tues. and are hoping to start ST very soon! Please send tell to Highroller or Erodryn for invite!
Dreamevil Oct 10th 2007 6:26PM
I'm famous!!
Fooman Oct 12th 2007 12:12PM
Yes, what Jugador did was wrong in opening the gates at an hour where nobody could actually witness the sheer scale of the AQ opening event on Mok'Nathal.
I was just truly amazed however at the fact that 4 alliance guilds and 1 horde guild, well who was online at the time I turned in my last green dragon fragment, joined up in a matter of 5 minutes to help kill Eranikus so I could bang the gong before the event was over.
Fact of the matter is, the gates are open on Mok'Nathal forever, and nobody who stays on the server will be able to witness it again. The server as a whole generally has a problem with Jugador not announcing his opening of the gates and just opening them at 2:37am.