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10-23-2007 @ 9:10AM
This is a post I'd hoped you make on this thread. I just more or less finished taking my guild through this process and then back through it again. So, I have some opinions on in this.Beyond the simple goal of "someday doing Gruul" is the mentality shift that raiding requires. If you have people that are unwilling to commit to a schedule and are unwilling to do all that is necessary to down a boss then you are going to spend an extraordinary amount of time trying to do new content. So first and foremost, get your own ducks in order. Recruiting can be done in a variety of means. The important thing to remember is that it is like everything else in this game: great reward comes with great effort. Spamming Chat channels, making forum posts, and other similar tactics are easy, but they also don't get much in terms of results.If you really want to find good players then do heroic instanc pugs and bring in the class you need as the 5th. Get to know the prospect, learn more about him. Your relationship with this player is very important.Raiding guilds go through massive attrition. People get burned out, they get impatient, they think they are smarte than the officers because they watched some video on YouTube, etc, etc. 2 Things can hold them together: Progression and/or Friendships. This is probably the most important point I can make. Build your guild up but keep it a strong community of people that like to game with one another. (This isn't easy, sometimes your friends are the slackers metnioend above) Those types or relationships will help you survive when your progression slows down.My last remark on this topic: As the OP stated, KZ guilds are dime a dozen. rather than compete with all of them and the guilds that are ahead of you who are trying move on, why not merge? IMO this is the best option. You gain 10-15 experienced raiders in exchange for giving up some power. There are 3 major hurdles in TBC raiding right now: Getting 25 people to Kill GruulProgressing Past GruulDowning Vashj & KaelTo surpass the 2nd Hurdle you are going to need people that committed to raid schedule and who are willing to be dedicated raiders. Don't lose sight of this. Otherwise you will end up going through this process again.
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