Leopard: plays well with WoW, not so well with Vent

To put it bluntly, it's exactly the same. On my MacBook Pro, I'm not perceiving any difference between 10.5 and 10.4. The good side of that is that there are no crashes, stability issues, incompatibilities, or anything like that (at least not that anyone's come across yet). The bad side is that I'm not seeing any performance increase, which is a bit of a disappointment, since 10.5 apparently comes with a new version of OpenGL. There have been mumblings in the WoW Mac Tech Support forum that this update might help some people for a little while now, but at least for me, that does not seem to be the case. It still plays fine, certainly no worse than it did under 10.4. And the "stuttering" issue reported by players with the NVIDIA 8600 graphics card is, according to multiple forum reports, gone.
I have discovered one trick that I can do in Leopard that I couldn't do in Tiger, and it has to do with Spaces. Traditionally, I run WoW in windowed mode, since I like to be able to easily switch out to Firefox, Adium, etc. However, if there were an easier way to switch apps, I'd prefer to run it in full-screen mode, since there's fewer distractions that way to pull me out of the WoW experience. Enter Spaces, Leopard's new virtual desktops feature. It allows you to keep different sets of windows available, and switch to them using (by default) control-arrow keys or control-numbers. Naturally, my first thought was to put WoW in its own space (you can set it up so that particular apps "belong" to particular spaces), fullscreen it, and just switch to my "everything else" space when I wanted to look at my email or whatever.
That didn't work, because in fullscreen mode, WoW captures all keystrokes you throw at it, including the control-up I was trying to use to get up to my other space. I was briefly flummoxed, before I thought of one option that I've never understood the use of before: maximized mode. In WoW's video preferences, right under the checkbox for windowed mode, there's one for maximized mode, which makes the game basically act as if it's running in fullscreen mode -- no title bar, no menu bar, etc. However, as it turns out, it differs from fullscreen mode in at least one important way: it doesn't capture all keystrokes. Finally my fullscreen and my app-switching desires can live in harmony, thanks to maximized windowed mode.
One final note: WoW itself may run well under Leopard, but apparently Ventrilo does not. They claim a proper fix is just around the corner, but in the mean time, here's a workaround (adapted from this post on the forums): just run the following lines in the Terminal (/Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app). You'll be asked for your password after the first line.
sudo -s
cd /Applications/Ventrilo.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/main.nib
cp objects.xib objects.xib.old
cat objects.xib | sed 's/rowHeight">0</rowHeight">20</g' > objects.xib.new
rm objects.xib
cp objects.xib.new objects.xib
exit
For the wary (and you should be), this script runs a new shell with root privileges, moves to your copy of Ventrilo, makes a backup of one of its resource files (objects.xib), modifies one of the settings in that file, and then logs out of the shell.
Have you installed Leopard yet, and if so, what are your WoW experiences like?
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Charlie Taylor Oct 26th 2007 3:38PM
I ran a beta version (forget the build number) for about a week on my machine, saw a huge leap in fps but tooooons of artifacts, and photoshop and lightroom didn't want to work at all, so I uninstalled it. Looks like they lost some of the performance bumps in the bugfixing :/
Alyssa Oct 26th 2007 3:42PM
Thanks for the fix. I can confirm it fixed Vent on my 10.5 install.
Kyp Oct 26th 2007 3:52PM
Please please please, let Leopard fix the stuttering. Fighting Prince, having my computer stutter, then clear up to see my dead body lying in the wake of an infernal == Not cool.
d503 Oct 26th 2007 3:57PM
Those lazy asses at Flagship should concentrate on either fixing GSM for mac, or giving us the real reason why it doesn't work...
I understand that they have a work around, but frankly, not everyone wants to change their server to Speex...
Vent for mac only really pisses me off now...thanks bootcamp for keeping my iMac useful...
ThorinII Oct 26th 2007 4:05PM
I hate Vent and refuse to even install it on my machines again. The last time I did it crashed out my sound drivers. Not sure how it possibly could, but the second I launched it my sound went out and I had to do a system restore to get it back. That was on a PC, by the way. But, I'll never use Vent. Not even on my Mac. I don't trust it.
dresden Oct 26th 2007 4:17PM
If you want to run WoW with multiple monitors, you need to do like you said too. Maximized mode. It's how I roll.
Gimmlette Oct 26th 2007 4:26PM
I have the problem that the sound in iChat went out when I installed Vent. Plus, unless you get a clerk in the Apple store who plays WOW, they know squat about setting up TeamSpeak or Vent. I found a wonderfully helpful guy at Fry's Electronics. You have to use a USB headset. I can't control individuals volumes but just hearing people was wonderful. I play iTunes and videos so it's not something within the Mac sound, I don't think. I haven't figured out what got nuked in iChat when I went to Vent but I don't use the video portion enough to worry about it. Still, it does bug me...
Hybrys Oct 26th 2007 4:55PM
@4 I'm to believe that Microsoft has licensed the GSM codec, and thus it can't be ported to Mac. And, yes, Speex sucks.
@5 If everyone was like that about Windows, this article would be more relevant. Still, things do screw up, but, it was more likely Windows' fault, as I've been using Ventrilo for years and I've never even heard of such an issue.
d503 Oct 26th 2007 8:08PM
@8.
See, that was all I was looking for! A simple explanation as to why we couldn't have GSM on Mac would have been sufficient to quiet us down, but I feel like when Flagship address it on their forums they simply just say, "SRYLOL, USE SPEEX IMO!"...in so many words, that is :P
I hope it's not an MS licensing issue...I'd really love to be playing on the OSX side, as it means I'd actually be using OSX at all, but at this rate, I stay booted up into XP all the time...
Metal Zombie Oct 26th 2007 10:01PM
The trick with spaces is nice, unfortunately when WOW is running it distorts the color of EVERY space, making everything slightly purple-ish. So when one changes from WOW to another space, everything is purple.
Does anyone know of a work-around?
JT Oct 26th 2007 11:51PM
I found the comment about discoloration in Spaces to be ironic considering that the demo for Spaces included a video from WoW.
veronica Oct 27th 2007 7:25PM
Thanks! The terminal tip worked perfectly and fixed my Vent. You rule.
Glenfidich Oct 29th 2007 12:30PM
There's a new revision of Ventrilo, prototype 16, that works pretty well with Leopard.
Enjoy