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11-13-2007 @ 8:00AM
Hmm, interesting. I only started playing after the release of TBC so I have never been in a 40-man-raid, but this was food for thought nonetheless.Looking at the old tier sets and loots, I would very much agree itemisation has become much better. Whether it alleviates loot drama is still situational. For 10 mans, I agree. For 25 mans, we bring along 8 healers...if a healing mace drops, it'll be 8 people wanting it, which is several more than your "5-6" example for 40-mans. For the tier tokens, I wouldn't be surprised if many druids felt they got the short end of the stick being grouped with warrior and priest, as that runs a high risk of losing the first token to the "main tank" clause and the second one to the "main healer" one. ;)Regarding Karazhan...I have to agree with both the above. I don't think it's an easy instance, and I would dread to go there with a full PUG (being pugged by a guild that has a slot or two empty is a different story). My guild is 4/6 SSC (fifth at 10%) and 1/4 TK (yeah yeah Lootreaver, bite me), but does Kara farming runs on weekends- and we've been wiping in there a lot as the well-geared people, especially tanks, can't be arsed to show up anymore. Rather embarrassing, really. But it's how it is, we may be a guild that raids tier 5, but with our B team left to its own devices, we struggle with Karazhan. (With a pugged main tank, we even managed to wipe twice on a single fleshbeast. Awesome, especially when you have a tier 5 repair bill). But I digress, my point is, Kara is far from an easy instance (my old guild, a fairly casual one, has been in there roughly 3 times a week for half a year and is up to Curator)...yet at the same time, Kara geared people do get called noobs. Mainly because the season two arena gear emulates tier 5, so anyone who doesn't have the first clue about PvE can go get it and then look down on tier 4 geared players. Though of course everything is relative, if you show up in a PUG in full Kara epics and everyone else is wearing dungeon blues, they will still fawn and gape at you, whereas to the BT-geared raiders on your server you'll be a scrub. And who cares what PvPers think.
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