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11-30-2007 @ 1:02AM
The OP in the linked thread missed the obvious point that both 3 and 5 got here... that the problem with Arena is the weapons. The OP on the WoW forums is looking at it from a PvP point of view, ignoring the PvE implications of the weapons. Pre 2.3 the rogue sword itemization SUCKED. After the Aldor reward, there really isn't anything that's a significant upgrade until the 4th boss in SSC (Yes Kazzak has Hope Ender and Blinkstrike is out there... but they're not significant upgrades from Vindicator's Brand. Neither is Spiteblade). Or you can get a very good upgrade for 18k honor. The S1 MH sword is just as useful in PvE as in PvP. It's 91dps... a huge upgrade for little effort. If the weapon changed outside of BGs and Arenas, that would be cool.. but it doesn't. It has the same DPS in a PvE environment. Heck, it's not far off Heartless, the MH out of ZA. It's THIS that people complain about, not so much the armor. I'll have the S2 MH next week. Combined with the OH, I'll have swords that I won't replace short of BT...for playing an hour or so a week on a sucky Arena team. Total time invested? Maybe 15 hours. Costs? none... there's no durability lost. Skill required? None, really. We tried a bit, but none of us CARE about ratings so we just played and if we won 2 or 3 of our ten games... cool. Hell, I've played against teams that walk in and /dance... they still get 250-300 points every week. For doing THAT they can get a BT level OH in 4-6 weeks and a BT level MH in maybe 10-12 weeks. For DANCING... so yes, Arena weapons are welfare epics.
11-30-2007 @ 12:17PM
You say you play an hour a week, and you got an epic weapon in 15 hours? Thats 15 WEEKS it took to get that 'welfare' epic. How much gear can you farm raiding for 15 weeks? There are two paths to epics, joining a raid and grinding high level instances, or PVPing and grinding in battlegrounds or arenas. I suggest all you raiders get used to the fact that your not the only ones with epics and quit QQing that you can't pwn a casual player in BG's anymore...
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