ok so...let me get this straight.....

Let's say I just dinged 70 (not near that yet, but hypothetically of course) and I'm raiding and doing stuff and my guild finally decides to start running these instances. For the most part, your gear gets better with each different instance that you run, it scales up.

So we have all this scaling up and guilds are running instances multiple times to get people geared for the next instance.

BAMMM!

wait.....you mean the most amazing epics in the game are gotten through PVP and spending honor?

Mr guild raid leader decides that since you can get MUCH better gear via PVP, that instances will be run however many times is needed to progress and once it's complete, on to the next one, regardless if anyone gets any gear drops. No farming until the end game instance.

Now, again, this is just a hypothetical situation, but this could very well start happening. Weren't we just complaining about how low-levels are missing WHOLE instances in pre-TBC content?

I guess my point is, besides the split of casual vs hardcore guilds, now you will have "extreme" guilds that only run an instance "once" until the final boss is down and then moves on. Too bad, so sad, go farm honor to get your epics.

The fact of the matter is that these ARE welfare epics to a point. Blizzard is assuming that when you are PVPing, you are actually in COMBAT! Thus, if you play fairly, it could take some effort to get honor.

/dance
/afk
/me taking a walk while honor builds

C'MON! How is this NOT welfare epics?

Dance for honor for hours vs. wiping Kara 15 times before getting to the final boss and getting a good drop and then running until all guildlies have at least something good from the instance.

Sorry.....this just ruins the game. Yes, I'll continue to try and level up my 66 hunter to 70 and other alts, but will I even get a spot in a raid if I don't have S3 gear? Will S3 gear become the requirement to run anything at 70 now? Think about this. Is this really what we want?

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