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11-30-2007 @ 11:44AM
Sounds right to me. Our guild has been having almost the same problem, as a more casual raiding guild still goofing off in Karazhan without enough people online at the right times to do any of the larger raids, we've been losing a lot of people lately due to the same thing. Most of us go for, as you said, the "cameraderie and accomplishments," but it's those who only care about epic loots that are leaving. A larger guild first will invite one or two of them to go to Kara with them, will then run those people through, giving them all the epics that drop there, and then try to recruit them. Unfortunately, it's more or less a fail-safe plan, as the only people who would run with another guild anyway are the types who only want free epics. The people who want to stay with our guild for the friendship and whatnot wouldn't run with another guild in the first place.
11-30-2007 @ 7:23PM
People don't just leave because of epic loots or lack of patience. They leave when the guild isn't meeting their needs. It is possible to be in a good guild with great people that can do Karazhan but there aren't enough people in the guild wanting to raid to be able to do the 25 man content.There comes a point where a member may have waited and waited and tried and tried to get people geared up and interested in that content...but has failed. The member has everything from Karazhan, has helped everyone progress, would still help new people progress, and could do it in their sleep. At that point, the member has to keep doing the same thing over and over every week and face not being able to see new content...or can go somewhere where the potential progress is there. I can see that as being a person who loves their guild and the members but is bored with doing the same thing all the time.
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