Guildwatch: Inspiring action in all the wrong places

Pretty amazing Kael down seen above-- the server was going offline, and as you can see, with just a scant 15 seconds left, Reforged on Runetotem was able to grab all their loot. Whew!
Right after the jump, you'll find this week's Guildwatch, your weekly look at all the drama, downed, and recruiting news you send us. The email address is wowguildwatch@gmail.com-- send us your tips there (anonymous or otherwise), and see them here next week. Click the link to read on.
Right after the jump, you'll find this week's Guildwatch, your weekly look at all the drama, downed, and recruiting news you send us. The email address is wowguildwatch@gmail.com-- send us your tips there (anonymous or otherwise), and see them here next week. Click the link to read on.
DRAMA
- Reforged on Runetotem doesn't have any drama happening to them, but they did have something dramatic happen. Right before the 2am patch, they decided to pull Kael'thas at 1:42am, knowing full well that the fight took at least 20 minutes. At phase 4, says our tipster, the server notices started coming. At a minute 30 seconds left, they had him to 5%. At 50 seconds left, they downed him, and the eight people standing rezzed with all their might. As you can see from the screenshot above, they got the loot out just in time. Fun!
- Reign of Shadows and Exiled, both on Shadow Council-H, want everyone to know that they have merged up into a new raiding guild called Infusion. And they claim that they did it with no drama at all. That's lame-- not even a confused guild forum post?
- Here's a clarification on last week's report about Greatly Exaggerated on Hydraxis-- but it's not what you think. It comes from a member of Kalimdor's Legion, who confirms that yes, GE showed up on their server and claimed they were the best thing since a sliced Tough Hunk of Bread. But contrary to reports, KL was the first guild to down Kael'thas, and KL says it's not their job to compete against GE-- they say they don't even count GE as a competitor. KL raids with 60 people and was built up from when the server started, and GE swooped in and raids with the same 25 people every night, we're told. KL says any intonation that the two guilds are competing is just silly.
- Trouble in The Mighty Chickens on Arthas-A. The original GL had passed on leadership to an interim guildleader (the raidleader of the guild), but as of 2.3, he refused to pass over full leadership, and as a result, the guild couldn't use the guild bank features correctly. So the raidleader decided to /gquit and form her own guild, Resurgence. She apparently said it was a group decision among the officers, except that it actually wasn't. They're doing well (have downed Lurker), but the Chickens are still planning to raid-- they start up recruiting again in a few weeks, we're told.
- There is a crazy amount of NSFW language in this /gquit picture, but I think our tipster is right: it is pretty legendary.
- Relationship drama on Baelgun! Sabettarcy is the girl, Blakhands is the boyfriend (probably an ex- by now, actually), and Short Bus Mafia is the guild stuck in the middle of it all. As our tipster says, "the principals get involved later in the thread." The "principals" sounds like a scientific study. Imagine it: drama analysis!
- You know when a thread is started by a lowbie alt and is titled "GG Fission officers," that it's going to be good.
- If only he'd channeled all this energy and fervor into something really important. "It would seem you are unhappy about leadership, young alt. You have undoubtedly been overlooked, or treated differently than others. You feel there are things you do not like, but do not have the power to change. In one last desperate attempt, you have come here, in an open forum, to proclaim your opinions to the world! To spark change and free the good and honourable people from the tyranny and oppression that is The Departed!"
- Treacherous Set of Muradin has transferred to Whisperwind and merged with The Crazy Ones to form Fortytwo. On their second night, they went to Gruul and cleared it out completely. Grats!
- The Noble Europeans on EU Agamaggan-H have both downed Vashj and cleared Zul'Aman.
- Singularities on EU Dentarg has been a little slow lately but they came back last weekend-- they took out Solarian and Fathomlord. Rock on.
- Gnome Ravagers on Terenas-H had the misfortune of losing their tank and a few healers a while back, but they're back on top of things, too, and took out Illhoof for a guild first. Shade is on notice!
- Talisman on Moon Guard is a fairly new light raiding guild, but they're off to a good start. On their third trip into Karazhan, they cleared it, and they're up to Akil'zon in Zul'Aman already.
- The Esoteric Order, Medivh-A, downed Void Reaver for the first time. Zul'jin is on notice! (They wanted Mag on notice too, but guys-- only one notice at a time!)
- In the Wake on Zul'jin-A finally dropped Gruul the other day, but the server crashed before they could get the loot. One GM told them there was no way to get the gear back, but they contacted another GM, who happily mailed them the loot. Good to know.
- Foundation on Dentarg dropped Hydross. Hot!
- For Instance on Proudmoore (winner of this week's Best Guild Name award!) is proud to say that they have cleared Karazhan through Chess, and are now working on an old favorite: Molten Core.
- Colossus on Eldre'thalas had an excellent week of raiding including first kills of Al'ar, High Astromancer Solarian, and Leotheras the Blind. Only Vashj and Kael to go!
- KVN on Laughing Skull skipped right over Magtheridon and dropped Solarian. Grats!
- Serious Business on Gnomeregan killed Magtheridon for a guild first! Vermin! My blood is my own!
- Dusk Raiders on Cenarion Circle-A is rolling right along, too: Al'ar, Solarian, Leotheras, and Fathomlord all in the same week. Vashj is on notice, but stop the progression madness!
- Argus Imperious on Zangarmarsh-A finished off Loot Reaver last week, and they're also recruiting: druids, priests, mage, rogue, and warlock.
- Torn Empire on Durotan killed Eagle and Lynx in ZA, and Dragonhawk is on notice. They also say they're *this close* to getting the first timed quest-- the bear and the prisoner died in the same instant.
- The Band and Crucible on Blackwater Raiders say "took out Gruul. Mag on notice." Few words. Lots of action.
- Brotherhood of Ronin on Dalvengyr-A is recruiting applicants now, and specifically seeking healers and offtanks.
- KaTel Mane and KaTet Nox are two sister guilds on Exodar-- Mane does the leveling up to 70, and Nox does the raiding-- that are both looking for players looking to make their way to 70 and get started raiding.
- Syck is a GMT+8 raiding guild on Smoulderthorn-H. They are looking for consistent and well-geared raiders to take down Vashj in SSC.
- Death Song on Lightbringer-A has cleared through Kara to Prince at 50%, and they're also recruiting shadow priests and mages, as well as more for a second group.
- Dread Knights on Malfurion-H is a casual raiding guild who doesn't let casual mean "anti-progression." They're seeking raiders of all classes especially healers, to help them finish Karazhan and head off to Gruul and beyond.
- Cowabunga Raiders on Quel'thelas has finished off Karazhan and is putting HKM on notice-- and they're looking for raiders to help out.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Todd Dec 4th 2007 1:47PM
@Reforged
Sure looks like Harakas, according the pic, is receiving all the loot. Did everyone else walk away empty handed?
con-man Dec 4th 2007 2:37PM
If he is the master looter, maybe he just looted it all and paged a GM after the server restart to allow him to hand it out.
Todd Dec 4th 2007 2:43PM
Possible, but I'm not aware that GM's even bother to correct loot-related-mishaps anymore. I know of several instances where the GM basically said "Sorry. You're screwed." to the group/raid in mishaps.
Now since this was a server restart, this might fall under some condition for such action.
con-man Dec 4th 2007 3:14PM
well I know if I were in his shoes, I would rather grab all the loot asap and hope a GM can help, rather than do nothing and let the server restart.
Todd Dec 4th 2007 3:25PM
Very true. Though, if he were the Master Looter, he probably would have some idea of who may deserve what? Might come down to either hope to God a GM can deliberate later, or rashly select those in the raid who could befit from whatever loot.
The real chore will come from convincing a GM that a server restart is really to blame for all this loot. I wonder how much of an internal investigation through server records a GM would go through to confirm all this.
Katie Dec 4th 2007 3:28PM
We have had three instances where loot was given to the wrong player (we got a new loot master after the third time) and the GMs were kind enough to fix the problems. All it takes is a ticket from the loot master as well as the parties involved, and patience.
First time was our loot master thought we got two of the same shoulders from Void Reaver. We didn't, but one pair of shoulders went to a class that couldn't use it before we realized the problem.
Second time was T4 chest pieces. This time we actually had the same two chest tokens drop. We believe this was a glitch because when the ML gave loot to the first winner, it automatically gave both pieces to that person in the same second (I have timestamps and all).
Third time T5 gloves were just given out to the wrong person because our ML wasn't paying attention.
Finnicks Dec 4th 2007 3:30PM
Or perhaps everyone in the group who might want the items that dropped already had them, and he is going to shard the epics for the guild bank after the servers come back online?
It certainly doesn't sound like this is this guild's first or even second or third time doing Kael. He's probably on Farm status.
Todd Dec 4th 2007 3:34PM
Heh, well this is all speculation of course. The best we have to go on is the pic. I just noticed that the same person is doing all the looting. At least he's now well geared. ;)
Swiss Dec 4th 2007 4:03PM
As a member of Reforged myself and present on the kill, it was looted by Harakas, the master looter, so that there is a definitive record of what dropped and there is a better chance of loot being sent to proper people later, rather than guessing in a moments notice and giving to the wrong person. Concentrate the loot in one spot for GM action and have a more tangible record of it. Incidentally, most if not all the items have been transferred to the proper raiders thanks to understanding GM action and the fact that we made it easy on them by having it all stay with the master looter.
/target Dave
/wave
/target Jon
/wave
/target Lee
/wave
/target Jordan
/wave
con-man Dec 4th 2007 4:07PM
Woohoo! I was right!
Todd Dec 4th 2007 7:08PM
Yeah, good assumption. However, I know from experience that GM's aren't always as, ahem, pleasant about the whole transferring of loot. Good to know this was a positive turn out.
Furien Dec 4th 2007 6:18PM
Great presence of mind from Harakas, he can ML for me anytime.
Warcloud Dec 4th 2007 7:54PM
Sigh. I can't stomach the WoW forums. 99% of these guild drama posts are started by some coward posting from a level 2 alt (ditto for most of the responses). If people can't even stand behind what they say, I just don't read it.
BenMS Dec 5th 2007 2:19AM
/tar Warcloud
/agree
I seen drama stirred up in the past by low level alts, and seen it stirred up by mains or alts with no identification issues. The second way is always a lot more constructive, I find.
Lythrdskynrd Dec 5th 2007 4:32AM
There is only *ONE* Unguilded lvl 70 Bufalo in the Armory
If that is him on US-Vashj I
/salute
/cheer
!! woo hoo !!
you go girl!
:D
Killonsight Dec 10th 2007 5:27AM
Actually, there were more than 8 people left standing at the end of the fight. Ony 2-3 were dead, but we had 8 people needing their vials in order to get Hyjal keyed and they were the ones needing rezzed. We let them all loot first, as the vials were more important than the loot. Harakas then grabbed the loot and after a couple days we got the loot sent to the right people.
kowchoo Dec 5th 2007 6:16PM
GMs may not intervene when loot is mistakenly given to the wrong person, but in my experience they've been pretty good about honoring correction requests from the master looter when the kill occurs just before shutdown.
This is the second such case that I've been involved in, and while it did take a few days to get sorted out, everyone did get their items. In fact, I got my Verdant Sphere even though it didn't get looted at all!