NP. I'll happily give up Cloak AND Vanish if I can have Plate.

Deal? Sweet.

lemme guess, your one of the 50000 boomkins us rogues 2 shot every bg :)

Cloak of instant win more like, playing a shadow priest I'd like to get an escape ability, with cloak of shadows you not only have an escape ability but also one that makes you invulnerable for 5s - long enough to take down any cloth class.

This one, er skill alone makes BGs one sided and therefore no fun for me at level 70, if rogues need an escape ability give them one, but they shouldn't be able to attack from it.

Still I'm guessing that playing rogues skilfully by surprising opponents would be beyond a significant group of the rogue population who just want to be able to charge in like warriors hence cloak of shadows.

And as for wanting plate instead, well besides the fact plate won't help you against casters, believe me I'd prefer to face plate instead, a warrior vs a plate rogue would stand more chance then a caster vs a cos rogue.

Are you seriously joking? We're rogues we're supposed to stealth and vanish and fight by keeping you off your feet. Other melee classes can get in your face without stealth because uh.... THEY'RE ALL IN PLATE AND HAVE PROBABLY 3 OR 4 TIMES THE ARMOR AND HEALTH WE HAVE. They can afford to get pounded by 3k frost bolt crits. I'm not saying make rogues wear plate but fix our stealth or something.