Legal files reveal IGE and Affinity connection once and for all
You may remember that earlier this summer, when Affinity Media purchased Wowhead (to add to their acquisitions of Thottbot and Allakhazam), we were able to interview Affinity Media CEO John Maffei, and he told us, in a very roundabout way, that Affinity and IGE had supposedly parted ways-- Affinity and its content sites were, he said, no longer associated with the company that sold gold in World of Warcraft. However, if you read the comments on that interview, you may have doubted what Maffei told us, and now, thanks to legal documents surfacing because of a legal action against IGE, it appears you were exactly right: Affinity and IGE are (or were, according to Affinity Media) still two peas in the same pod (see Update).I know for certain right now that some of you commenters are preparing the "aww geez, not this again" (NSFW) macro to post, and I don't blame you. You're exactly right; this is boring business stuff, not new news about the Sunwell, and anyone paying attention back during the Wowhead acquisition knew that the two companies were still connected anyway. If this isn't news you to, fine-- I don't mean to reopen Pandora's Box, we just want to make sure we do due diligence in covering this issue.
But let's be completely clear about the situation, so that everyone can know how this is working: One of the biggest companies involved in real-money trading (which Blizzard and many players consider cheating) is also (or used to be, according to Affinity Media) the company backing three of the biggest online WoW databases. Considering how useful those sites are, it would be hard if not impossible to do anything like a boycott (and for the record, WoW Insider will continue to use all three of them, unless there is a strong call from you readers not to). And we weren't completely lied to by Maffei-- it is true that no gold ads have appeared on those three sites (which is more than we can say at WoW Insider, unfortunately, considering our relationship with Google Adsense). It's true that there is no visible connection between their content network and their (according to Affinity, former) RMT company.
But the fact remains that Affinity Media (the owners of Wowhead, Thottbot, and Allakhazam) and IGE (which, according to Affinity, used to be) one of the biggest companies making money off of breaking WoW's Terms of Service) are still closely related, if not the same company. It's our job to make sure you know that-- it's yours to decide what that means, if anything, to you.
Update: Affinity has contacted us, and is now saying that Affinity did sell off IGE's assets, but they had to keep a division of the company called IGE, and that's why the IGE name appears in their legal papers. That doesn't answer, however, why IGE's goldselling website (which I won't link to, but which can be found easily in a Google search) is still open for business. We have requested further comment and will post it when we get it.
Again, I don't mean to reopen Pandora's box here-- if you're tired of this issue and feel that you understand the situation, great. Feel free to read our many other posts, a very, very small percentage of which have to do with this issue at all. But we're committed to getting to the truth of this, and the facts are that we're seeing one thing in legal papers (that Affinity the content company and IGE the goldselling company are related), and being told another by the company itself.
Your feedback is being heard. We won't post on this issue again. But it's our responsibility as a site that covers World of Warcraft news to report the relationship between these two companies if one exists.
Update II: Affinity is telling us that the IGE now selling gold and the Affinity Media now running Wowhead and Thottbot are two different companies, and that Affinity is only being called IGE in the lawsuit because that's what they were called when they were part of the gold-selling company. By all appearances, Affinity and IGE have split as companies, and the company selling gold is no longer the same company running the databases.
However, that doesn't mean there is no financial relationship between the two companies-- this document, in particular, points to money changing hands between the two. In all likelihood, the money is going from IGE LTD (the company now running the gold selling business) to Affinity Media (called "IGE US, now known as Affinity Media" in the legal documents) as a way of paying for the infrastructure set up when the company now known as Affinity Media was involved in RMT.
In short, if there is money changing hands, it's going from the gold sellers to the content makers-- the players buying gold are paying for Wowhead and Thottbot (again, if there is money changing hands). It is extremely unlikely, from everything we've seen in our research, that money is going the other way, and that visiting the database sites will actually support a company selling gold. And that's good news for all of us who appreciate how useful sites like Thottbot and Wowhead are, and that also respect the Blizzard Terms of Service.
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, Virtual selves, News items, Making money






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
GABRIEL Dec 20th 2007 8:41PM
JUST LOL
theRaptor Dec 20th 2007 11:44PM
Oh that is a brilliant argument "everyone does it, so you shouldn't complain about it". Mind if I come over to your house and steal some of your stuff? You know some government or corporation is going to do it anyway.
Worblehat Dec 20th 2007 8:46PM
Personally I think it is wrong to misrepresent a company. Especially in an open interview to the world. I am going to start looking for an alternative to wowhead, etc. Even though it is a free service, I am definately not loyal to companies who lie to us. We may be the "little" people (Gnome Mage), but we arent stupid.
mr_rabies Dec 20th 2007 8:59PM
WoWhead is owned by ZAM Networks, which is owned by Affinity Media, or something along those lines. It's idiotic to boycott them because they were offered essentially free money by a company that has tenuous ties to a company that does RMT. They don't have any gold ads on the site, so why do you care?
Thingy Dec 20th 2007 10:07PM
I think you'll find you're in for a bit of a shock when you enter the real world. I highly doubt there'd be a single company, government or public servant that doesn't misrepresent themselves and like to the public. If you're going to snob one company for it, be prepared to become a hermit for the rest of your life.
Zeal Dec 20th 2007 8:59PM
Very old news of a false claim.
I hate Affinity Media as much as anyone but I suggest you read the legal documents more closely and do some research next time. This proves nothing more than a liability agreement and proceedings when IGE was in fact sold off.
Krystalle Voecks Dec 20th 2007 11:31PM
The subpoena filed by the Florida State's Atty Office specifically name Affinity Media as part and parcel of IGE. That is not an "old" document. It was just filed on December 17th. They are under investigation under Florida's Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices act.
http://www.igeclassaction.com/?p=24
the subpoena:
http://www.igeclassaction.com/complaint/subpoena.pdf
Geoff Shafer Dec 20th 2007 8:50PM
I am still using those sites too... I don't buy gold, but I don't really care if someone else does.
Platnex Dec 20th 2007 8:51PM
In all honesty are you really surprised? Look on Allakhazam and look at almost any Outland instance boss/ raid boss or daily quest and you will see at LEAST one person with a gold selling advertisement or link to power leveling service in his sig.
Meh, it happens and at then end of the day it's not going to stop me looking up stuff. so long as they continue with the lack of advertising it is ok with me.
kittay Dec 20th 2007 9:06PM
perhaps you should exercise due diligence and research the difference between ige the gold selling company, and ige the holding company - they are, in fact, different entities.
Adys Dec 20th 2007 9:12PM
How much were you paid to bring back 6 months old topics?
Miyari Dec 20th 2007 9:49PM
People who know what they're talking about reveal WoW Insider blogger knows nothing once and for all
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=4127
Educate yourself, please. This sort of "news" is really getting rather trite, you could have at least properly researched your claims. I echo Adys' question, and I'm kinda curious who paid you, as well. :)
Popowski Dec 20th 2007 9:52PM
Stick to the Sunwell details.
Gazoo Dec 20th 2007 10:04PM
Ummm.. a little digging reveals there is a class action lawsuit in the works and one can only wonder why? From the detail in the article, it seems someone in Florida paid for power levelling and was subsequently hacked and lost their account.
Its the only thing that it could be given the nature of he subpoena and the details it wants:
"The subpoena seeks records relating to the distribution, marketing, pricing and sale of World of Warcraft gold. The subpoena also seeks documents relating to the organization and structure of IGE U.S., Affinity Media, and IGE Ltd. The subpoena seeks financial and sales information, the identity of specific World of Warcraft accounts owned or controlled by IGE, the identity of World of Warcraft accounts that IGE has power leveled, and the IP addresses IGE used to log into World of Warcraft to distribute products sold by IGE. The subpoena also seeks documents which show all websites owned or controlled by IGE or its affiliates at any time."
WHy would they want IP addresses? Website names? Think about it... this is going to be huge.
Amanda Dec 23rd 2007 9:24PM
Yeah, really huge. The IP addresses used by bots. The websites that IGE owns...huuuuuge...
Um...no. There is nothing huge about getting bot IPs and distribution links.
What -IS- huge is all the people that are going to be banned that bought gold as much as three years ago who think they beat the system. Now that's gonna be some fun fireworks.
And maybe the people screaming 'RESERCH IT'S OLLLDDD!!!!' shoulkd do a little themselves, as proven in many posts, this is incredibly recent.
tommy Dec 20th 2007 10:24PM
I love moral conundrums stemming from WoW.... lawlz. If you want real questionable activities read the NY Times or walk outside.
argh.
Graargh Dec 20th 2007 10:50PM
Hmm, user "Zeal", account created December 20, 2007. User "kittay", account created December 20, 2007. Both of them making similar claims, both dismissive of the claim without offering any evidence to support their claim.
IGE plant, perhaps? I wouldn't doubt it.
Kirkburn Dec 21st 2007 8:28AM
Wow, you're quite the investigator.
Unfortunately you're also making completely ridiculous claims.
Zeal, for example, is a long standing member of WoWWiki.
Next time, don't be a fool.
Tim Dec 20th 2007 10:56PM
Doesn't this toss a rather big ball in Blizzard's court? Now that we have the Armory, why isn't there an official Blizzard-powered info database? If they made it, they would kill off these competitors, or at least lower their traffic a little.
Beth Dec 21st 2007 2:12PM
The armory is ugly, slow, unstable and causes firefox to freeze up. It also has all the superfluous bits characteristic of the World of Warcraft official look.
Personally I'd still use Wowhead even if Blizzard began offering an alternative.