Officers' Quarters: A dangerous gift
Every Monday Scott Andrews contributes Officers' Quarters, a column about the ins and outs of guild leadership.It's the holiday season, and for many players that means extended periods away from Azeroth as we spend more time with family and friends. If your characters are a critical part of your guild's success, you may be tempted to give another player access to your account so they can help the guild in your absence. It's a generous and noble gesture, but in the big picture it's a dangerous gift to give. I would urge everyone to be a Scrooge and keep your account info all to yourself. And this week's e-mail shows why:
What do you do as a guild leader, when you have two or three different people in your guild that have, in the past, shared accounts, and then one leaves the guild in an ugly way? Or at all?
Especially if one has guild bank access?
I know that, technically, sharing accounts is against the EULA, but among young teens it seems fairly common . . . especially in raiding guilds, where if a raid is short a priest, JohnnyX may have access to another guildies' account so he can bring the AFK player's priest on.
What do you do if one leaves? The other two accounts are mostly played by the owners . . . but if the toon comes online, but the player isn't on a voice chat application, how do you know it is REALLY the owner, and not the player that left? Worse yet, what if the player had been booted?
Is it right to remove other people from a guild because they have shared their account with someone else?
Sharing accounts can become a thorny issue for guild officers. Let's first look at what is against the Terms of Use. It's pretty clear that Blizzard is against sharing anything related to your account. From the ToU:
During the registration process, you will be required to select a username and a password that are unique to the Account (collectively referred to hereunder as "Login Information"). You may not share the Account or the Login Information with anyone other than as expressly set forth herein.
And then also:
You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your Login Information, and you will be responsible for all uses of your Login Information, whether or not authorized by you.
(Why do legal documents insist on Capitalizing Words that really shouldn't be Capitalized?)
I'll get right to the bottom line: You as an officer have the right to take any action you deem necessary to protect the security of your guild and its bank. There is absolutely no way to tell who is controlling the character of a compromised account, even with voice software. It was your member's decision to break the rules and share their account info, and they are going to have to deal with the consequences, whether you have to take away their bank access or remove all their characters from the guild. You could even report them to Blizzard if you really wanted to be harsh. I'm not advocating or condemning any of these actions yet. I'm just telling you what your immediate options are.
If you know that someone has paid a service to level up their character, it's the same situation: Their account has been compromised and your guild is at risk, so you should take steps to prevent your vault from being ransacked.
Now, the author of this week's e-mail asked a more nuanced question: Is it right to kick someone out in this situation? I would say in general that it is right if that's what you have to do, because they are violating the policies of the game. If someone in your guild was hacking or botting, you wouldn't want them in your guild. Sharing account info seems harmless, and in many cases, as I noted before, they are actually doing it to help others. Even so, it can lead to disastrous consequences for the guild and you are the one responsible for protecting it, so in my opinion you can't be faulted for taking whatever action you feel is appropriate.
However, if the person is a valued and longstanding member of the guild, you may want to find a more reasonable solution. In this case, have the person change their password immediately. If you trust them to take care of this in a timely manner, it's a good fix. But you might want to demote their characters out of the bank in the meantime just to be safe. And you should seek assurances that the person who had your member's account info doesn't have access to their e-mail, too, or else that person could just retrieve the new password -- and then you are back to square one.
Still, it's far better never to face this situation in the first place. So I recommend to all the officers out there before it's too late: Let members know that you won't tolerate account sharing.
There is one particular instance where Blizzard allows you to share an account. The exception is described best on Blizzard's support site:
You may not share your Account or password with anyone, except that if you are a parent or guardian, you may permit one (1) minor child to use the Account instead of you (in which case you may not use that Account at the same time).
This is what the Terms of Use mean above when they state, "other than as expressly set forth herein." Due to this policy, you might come across two people who share the same characters without breaking the ToU. I've found myself in this situation before, and I really dislike it. It was a father and son who each had their own characters but sometimes logged in as the other person. This was back in the days of Molten Core, and it wasn't very fun to wipe on an easy boss because that priest you thought was being played by a competent adult turned out to be in the hands of a kid who had no idea how to play the class. I had to put my foot down and insist that they announce who was controlling the character whenever they were interacting with someone else in the guild. I suppose I could have booted them both, but I'd always rather give people a second chance.
In any case, the author of this week's e-mail is in a bad situation. When someone leaves due to drama but still has access to guild characters, all those characters' equipment and items, and potentially the guild bank, it's pretty much a worst-case scenario. Unlike an unscrupulous leveling service or a hacker, that player is personally motivated to do your guild harm. I hope you've come out of it unscathed, but let it serve as a warning to others!
/salute
Send Scott your guild-related questions, conundrums, ideas, and suggestions at scott.andrews@weblogsinc.com. You may find your question the subject of next week's Officers' Quarters!
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Drayna Dec 24th 2007 11:23AM
I agree. This is a bad situation if it was drama driven. People do stupid things. For immediate action, make sure the people that person shared accounts with is out of the guild bank. From there, tell the players that they should change their passwords for fear that through an act of stupidity they may lose their hard earned gold, items, and possibly more (not my Tier 6 QQ).
Hopefully these people are trustworthy and loyal and will change their passwords. I might not let them in the Guild Bank for a while though to be sure. I would also probably keep my eye on the kicked member just in case he changes names/leaves the server/decides to quit/wants to join a guild you know that works well. High-end guilds sometimes appreciate feedback from the Guild Leader of an applying recruit.
Kind of like, asking a possible hire's former boss about why he quit/fired.
Keep in mind, people do stupid things. Prepare for the worst but hope for the best.
Theserene Dec 24th 2007 1:32PM
I agree, someone sharing accounts would NOT be given any access to our guild bank.
PeeWee Dec 24th 2007 12:20PM
If you're so goddamn stupid to give away your account info, and it results in a guildbank-theft, account-theft, or anything else unpleasant, you have only one person to blame.
YOU.
There is NEVER any reason to give away your account info. EVER. No, there are no arguments whatsoever, there is nothing you can say that will change the fact that it's plain friggin RETARDED to share your account. The paragraph in the EULA is there for a reason. Obey it, and you won't get the "I'm a retard"-tattoo across your forehead when you lose all your purples.
Theserene Dec 24th 2007 1:33PM
*nods*
Even my husband doesn't know my username and password for my WoW account, nor do I know his.
Rykarda Dec 24th 2007 12:50PM
"However, if the person is a valued and longstanding member of the guild, you may want to find a more reasonable solution."
All it takes is five minutes of account sharing to destroy your guild bank, whether someone is longstanding or not. We had a longstanding member of our guild who shared his account with his wife. They got into a fight and she deleted his character and all his stuff, including all the mats guildies had sent him. Then he did the same to her, destroying more mats. I don't care who is in my guild, if I found out someone was sharing his/her account, I wouldn't put anything in the guild bank and I would expect our officers to put a stop to it IMMEDIATELY.
PeeWee's comment FTW.
So True So True Dec 24th 2007 12:51PM
People do stupid things but if you want to see true stupidity, just look at WoW players -- they do the dumbest things around!
Theserene Dec 24th 2007 1:31PM
We did have a guild member who shared her account details with her boyfriend so he could log on and level her priest when she was at work.
We found out after he'd logged on, joined one of our groups, caused multiple wipes from not knowing the class well enough and then abused the rest of us for being 'noobs'. We booted him out and then got a pleading message 30 minutes later from the 'real' owner asking to be let back into the guild as it wasn't her saying those things.
Sorry, it was your account. You have to take responsibility for things done with it.
Basic Dec 24th 2007 2:12PM
My guild has a similar policy. You are responsible for the conduct of the person controlling your character.... and we recruit people not characters so, no you can't buy a member's account and inherit their officer rank or even membership!
lolatyou Dec 24th 2007 2:21PM
I share my account details with about 3 or 4 people I know in real life =]
Theserene Dec 24th 2007 2:28PM
Why?
lolatyou Dec 24th 2007 2:33PM
To borrow gold, a character to defend alts or to run through instances or if we get bored we sometimes swap characters just to try a different class.
PeeWee Dec 24th 2007 4:14PM
When the day comes (not "if", I do mean "when") when you try to log on and your password is changed, I'm going to be the one that "lolatyou".
lolatyou Dec 25th 2007 2:45AM
We value friendship over virtual items.
PeeWee Dec 25th 2007 9:39AM
I'd like to see you say that when someone takes off with 20K worth of items.
lolatyou Dec 25th 2007 1:14PM
My friends don't care enough about the game to do that. Like I said, they would prefer our friendship rather than 20k of virtual items. I don't care what happened to other people, just means they have shit friends.
PeeWee Dec 29th 2007 4:41PM
"they would prefer our friendship rather than 20k of virtual items..."
I'm happy for you, living in your dream world.
Andy Dec 24th 2007 4:24PM
I share my account with the guild master and my wife, and he has shared his with us. As such I can go tank an instance and he can go nuke happy with my mage. We run an adult only guild and anyone that has enough rank to destroy our guild bank is mature enough not to do so when they get upset.
As far as sharing with the spouse goes, if you can't trust your wife with your account info then you have a serious issue and need to see a marriage councilor.
Runstadrey Dec 24th 2007 7:15PM
Andy; You "run an adult only guild" eh? And just who enforces the age requirements? What do you use to verify that 'pwnsu' is not really a snot nosed, zit covered punk?
I think you're just asking for trouble by even believing that you are in an 'adult only' guild.
Lucas Dec 24th 2007 5:16PM
When I was younger (13, 14 now) I used to share accounts with my friend, suffice to say, it did not work out. We would kick each other out of runs constantly. It just doesn't work out.
Marcus Dec 24th 2007 6:18PM
We had an issue with account information theft just recently. One night a member of my guild logged on and off his toons in the guild. We were quickly alerted by his brother, who is in our guild and was online, that something was wrong. The guild member that was logging on and off was actually sleeping and not at his computer to log into his account. His brother woke him up and things were resolved without an issue, but if that happened when nobody was on to notice our guild bank could have been emptied.
Please, don't give out your account information to anyone. Also, keep your system safe from spyware and malware.