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1-07-2008 @ 5:13AM
"Pockletock squeesh many orcs today!" = why I gave up on RP in WoW.(Sorry to be so negative, but my honest first reaction was to reread the post looking for the joke I'd missed.)
1-07-2008 @ 9:14AM
Surely you don't mean that you gave up on RP in WoW because you heard Pockletock himself say that he squeeshed some orcs today. Perhaps you encountered some other people who were roleplaying in ways you found outlandish and difficult to believe? You didn't think their jokes were funny? This is one thing that we have a problem with, is that we can't tolerate each other's RP styles. Personally, I think if you met Pockletock, you would really enjoy being with him. You'd see he doesn't overdo it or carry it to extremes in any way. He's very humble and he doesn't go seeking as much attention as he can get. He just has this way of thinking, speaking and acting, which is very endearing and funny too.His style of RP isn't for everyone, regardless -- that's why I included multiple examples with very different styles and effects on their listeners. I hope that you can look through and see something that you like, and use it as an inspiration in your own roleplaying.I don't know if this helps you. Perhaps if you could be more clear...
1-07-2008 @ 6:28PM
"Surely you don't mean that you gave up on RP in WoW because you heard Pockletock himself say that he squeeshed some orcs today"Of course not. Not literally so. "Grumpy? Vhat is ze meanink of zis vord?", "Happeh Skull Days!", and "Pockletock squeesh many orcs today!"* as a set sum up everything I loathe about RP. Those aren't characters, they're gimmicks.Step 1) Assign Big Past Event [can skip straight to step 2]Step 2) Make clown shoe exaggerated gimmickStep 3) there is no step three, but bonus points for typing in an accent.I'm sorry, that's flat out lazy. These "quirks" are actually crutches. I suggested another approach for beginning RPers in a response to another in this series, but even if one starts with the extraordinarily broad (RP is a skill and does take practice) it shouldn't be difficult to move forward. The hunter's persona is good. I've played a similar (from what you described) character in another game, but for me part of the challenge was doing it less blatantly. Diction that was not always *quite* right for example. We've all met people who learned English in school and speak it very well but occasionaly stumble in odd moments over a tense or a pronoun, or, as in your example, a word. A friend of mine from Norway speaks nearly accentless English but has these little hiccups every now and again that remind me he's not a native speaker. He sent me an irony free birthday card for my thirtieth that read, "Congratulations on your many years!" (Way to make a guy feel old there, buddy!) The phone conversation parsing why that wasn't quite right was...interesting. I remember his frustrated cry of, "But you have those years!"It's definitely a personal preference. I prefer--and it's an elitist thing, definitely--a more naturalistic form of RP. You gave two examples of such in your post.Others prefer an over-the-top vampire-accent-gimmick style. That'd be fine with me except...how the heck do I, in character, deal with someone announcing Skull Day to everyone in sight? Don't have many options. Spend time RPing trying to get the guards to put them back on their meds? Pretend they don't exist? When the clown shoe RPers are the majority--and they most certainly are, massively so--I've chosen to not bother RPing. It's not worth the heartbreak.My main has no RP persona but I'll create one on the fly if there's someone around who wants to RP seriously and I've the time to indulge it. Most recently I got a polite tell asking if I minded if a 20-something rogue RP'd picking my pockets. I'd been about to log but she was nice so I said sure. My mage spent the rest of the night going about his fake business and eventually ended up on his back watching the stars on a hill outside SW. At every moment I designed his movement to frustrate her RP pickpocketing attempt while in character not knowing it was happening. I got a lot of ((You're not making this easy! this rules!)) and we called it when he spotted her through stealth sneaking up to the hill and asked the stranger if she wanted to join him for some stargazing. We both had tons of fun...and it reminded me why I love RP.I'd written and then deleted a bunch of replies to this post since the moment it went up. No matter how I phrased things I was really negative and knew no one cared about my bitching. Finally put up the one I did to get it out of my system and move on. I love RP and crappy RP makes me sad. Sorry I was a jerk about it.A couple RP exercises, if I might be so bold.Try RPing a character using no emotes. None. No macros and no backstory showing in an RP mod. All being, no showing.Try RPing a character created around a few basic goals and needs. Simple stuff. Getting a job say. The character may WANT to be slaying dragons, but that's never going to happen: what he needs is a way to pay the bills. It's a very different starting place than "shaman who won't eat meat, is orphaned, and hates the Alliance for killing his family". May find it a liberating one.*I'm sure Pockletock is a nice guy. Never doubted that :)
1-07-2008 @ 11:38PM
Hey Potato. :) Thanks for your explanation, your story, and your suggestions. It is, as you say, a matter of preference, and different people have different senses of humor. I personally find "clowning" to be hard to do just right. I have tried and failed with some of my characters, such that what I thought was funny ends up looking just like a shallow gimmick, as you say.But at the same time, it's not entirely fair to say that one form of humor is entirely bad just because you don't get the joke, or know how to respond to it. For instance, my draenei hunter's accent isn't actually based on vampires. I have some international friends who talk with accents that I just love to listen to; so in making this character, I mixed together all the things I loved about their accents and played it that way. Likewise, I live in China, so I have an intimate experience struggling to use a foreign language -- it may seem like a gimmick to you, but I guarantee it comes out of a very real human experience. Hopefully my character's accent doesn't sound too far from the accent draenei have in their voice emotes, also. Anyway, if you saw me doing it, I'd hope you'd give it the benefit of the doubt, rather than dismissing it offhand, assuming it's something it is not.As another example, my trollish friend doesn't say Happy Skull Days to everyone in sight. These quirks are not intended to be spammed over and over again in yells all over Orgrimmar. She might wish you Happy Skull Days in guild chat, however, and you could always just thank her politely for the skull she gives you and then set it aside somewhere. She's really not trying to get attention so much as provide happy entertainment for her friends. Whether I like it or not, you certainly don't have to think it's good entertainment. But still, don't give up on it. Heaven knows countless times I've tried entertaining and it didn't work out, but with the patience and encouragement of my friends, I got a lot better.In short, I hope you don't mind me saying this, but your "elitist thing," as you put it, may be setting you up for disappointment. A curious and forgiving attitude would help you appreciate and encourage others much better, and might reveal diamonds where you thought there was only rough.
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