Gearchecking the expansion
After reading yesterday that Bornakk confirmed a "gear reset" (which is not actually a reset-- more on that in a sec), reader John had an interesting thought about using current high-level instances (Hyjal and BT) to attune players for future high level instances, so that neither the gear or the content would go unused. Which is kind of happening already-- it's all but confirmed that Naxx will be repurposed in the next expansion. But that just suggested something else to me: what if, rather than worrying about a "gear reset." Blizzard actually made the current endgame mandatory for entry into Northrend? What if you couldn't move on without doing all the current content?That would ensure that you got the use you needed out of the gear you had now, and it would also make sure that everyone coming through saw everything-- your guild would have to down Archimonde to enter into the next 10 levels.
Now, it's pretty clear that won't happen, because Blizzard is much, much more inclined to make things more open rather than put more requirements on their new content. But you have to admit that it would solve the problem-- either run and experience the content, or don't move on.
Finally, other readers did note one more thing about the "gear reset" and that's that it's not actually a reset at all-- much of the highest level gear won't be replaced for quite a while (I was still wearing my Tier 2 helm when I hit 69, and people wearing full T6 right now likely will keep their gear even through the starting quests in WotLK). But that still doesn't change the fact that Blizzard is basically running two gear paths here-- either fight in the raids for the high-level armor now, or just pick it up later when you enter Northrend.
Filed under: Items, Analysis / Opinion, Odds and ends, Blizzard, Instances






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
Oyvey Jan 30th 2008 12:02AM
Welcome to Northrend - Population 248
(And the other 9,999,752 WoW players worldwide are paying for you to be here... cool eh?)
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Please... it's already a blatant insult that I'm paying so the elite few (i.e. unemployed, basement dwelling, port-a-potty jockies) can run instances that the VAST, majority of players will never, ever even glimpse from the inside.
What drivel... got anymore bright ideas in that sinkhole where your gray matter used to be Mongo??
supermint Jan 15th 2008 7:07PM
That's stupid, especially for people like me who enjoy PVP much more then PVE.
Magnetic Jan 16th 2008 12:31AM
No, this is a great idea!
Let's take it even further!
Everyone who hadn't completed Naxx by the time BC came out, sorry, your character is going to be reverted back to level 60. Once you finish Naxx, then we'll allow you to re-roll as a Blood Elf. As a compromise, if you down C'thun, you can be an Alliance Shaman.
Spoony Jan 15th 2008 7:08PM
the problem with requiring people to go through everything and farm all the gear is two fold.
1) What happens to all the new people who sign up for Wow a few months after the expansion is out and get to 70 and it's a ghost town (much like 60 content is now) while i'm sure there would be much more people running it then there is of MC and BWL now there is definitely not going to be enough on every server to help every last person past all those instances.
2) These raiding instances are hard, most people are still trying to get through the first 25 mans defiantly more so then people who have full cleared BT and are sitting around for Sunwell. Even Naxx is hard at level 70 to people in gear. So for random people who don't raid forcing these things on them would essentially stop them from playing unless Blizzard dumbed them down to around the difficulty of the easiest of 5 mans (as i still can't always pug a normal run through all the 70 instances on some servers with sucess).
Redfoot Jan 15th 2008 7:10PM
So, you'd have to be a raider to get to the next expansion? Yeah...I'm sure people wouldn't complain about that at all.
Lorenei Jan 15th 2008 7:11PM
I think it would be awful to actually force people to use some content, if it is not something they want to do. You have to remember that some people play WoW for PvP, others enjoy simple instances and that raiding isn't everyone's cup of tea.
So if Blizzard would force all of those players to raid just so that they could see the new content a lot of players would simply leave.
I've raided all the end game raids apart from BT, because raiding is something I personally enjoy (sometimes!) but I know so many people who tried it, hated it, and never want to do it again, as they enjoy the game in dother ways, whether it be through pvp, instancing or even RP.
andrea Jan 15th 2008 7:13PM
Force people to raid? Are you kidding me?
This post was written by a raider already crying over a gear reset? Worst idea I've seen posted on this blog, to be honest.
Saiforune Jan 15th 2008 8:37PM
I 100% tottally agree.
Connor Murphy Jan 15th 2008 9:30PM
Absolutely the worst suggestion I've ever read on this blog. Suggesting ways for non-raiding players to see raid content is legitimate but suggesting I get to pay $40 for a major pain in the ass is rediculous. Imagine trying to get a Kara group 6mos from release-- no one would want to do it.
nuiker Jan 15th 2008 7:15PM
Making people go through content that they can't go to because of smalls guilds or that they don't want to is probably the dumbest idea possible. Putting a requirement on an expansion is just stupid especially requiring someone to raid.
People just need to get over the fact that your gear is gonna get replaced. Wanting your time and effort to last forever will never work. If I buy a brand new car now, I don't go around thinking that it will last forever and that I won't have to replace it. No, I assume that something newer and better will come out. The same goes for gear, all that time that you've used it up till the xpac is the reward for getting it, you don't get to keep having it help you, that's not how games or life work.
Freelier Jan 15th 2008 7:20PM
Wow. That's a pretty dumb comment. Is there an editor at wowinsider.com or does everything just go straight to the front page?
Ahoni Jan 15th 2008 7:27PM
Mike Schramm is the co-lead of WoWInsider and Massively.
He is also known for putting up lots of the sky is falling posts.
How about instead of making everyone complete BT to go to Northrend, we make it so everyone has to have a 5v5 Arena Team with a 2200 rating to go? Or maybe you have to pay 15,000 gold to go? All are equally achievable for the average player.
Green Armadillo Jan 15th 2008 7:29PM
Actually, poorly thought-out, inflammatory material gets more comments, which the sales people can tell advertisers means people are actually reading the posts. So, if there are editors at all, they're probably happier with this kind of post than something intelligent that might only get 10-20 comments.
Armath Jan 15th 2008 7:23PM
Forcing to people to raid to get to NON-RAID content? Not a good idea. In fact, I'd agree with the other posters and call it dumb.
However, I'd love to see some of the old-world raids adjusted so they can be run as a 5-man L70 (and after WotLK, as a 5-man L80) heroic, with appropriate loot. Give people the option of seeing new content, but don't force them to do so.
Green Armadillo Jan 15th 2008 7:23PM
Let me get this straight... you're advocating that the expansion only be available to players who kill Kil'Jaeden? (Well, I suppose if DK's are available at 55 without a quest, technically non-raiders would be allowed to roll a DK and level it through TBC content.) That's actually what you're suggesting, and not a typo? Cause if so, you're proposing that Blizzard not sell their expansion to 90+% of players. Completely ignoring the lack of merits of that suggestion for a moment, it would never happen for the sales reasons alone. That out of the way, people who actually beat high end raid content are the ones who don't want a level cap increase that forces them to grind before they can get back to raiding in the first place - the level cap is going up for the benefit of players who don't raid and therefore can't do the current endgame. So your solution would actually manage to be hated by EVERYONE who plays the game.
Regarding the original suggestion, I could see a system where you can prove your raiding competence to start in on Wrath raids EITHER by completing TBC 25-man content, OR by completing Wrath 10-man content (the latter being the option that existed with the TBC launch). The problem there is A) existing raiders get to bypass a time-sink, which Blizzard will never voluntarily allow, and B) backflagging replacement members once you finish the 10-man content, the same reason why the TBC attunement tree had to be gutted in the first place.
Rob Jan 15th 2008 7:28PM
Agreed w/ all these. This is a terrible idea. The vast majority of raiding guilds on our server are still struggling through kara. Only 5-6 guilds total on the server have gone to T5 content. So what you are saying is that for our server you can just pretty much forget the next expansion, because at most a handful of players on our server will experience BT. Do you just hate WOW players that much?
Saiforune Jan 15th 2008 8:42PM
"Do you just hate wow players that much?"
Epic win lol. HAHAHAHA God I love this smashing of Mike.
I'm a casual (Ex-T5 raider) and man this would utterly suck if i had to do T6/T7 content to get to Northrend.
Kevlar Jan 15th 2008 8:32PM
Raiders keep complaining about the gear reset "problem". its not really a problem, if someone runs ZF 20x for a good weapon it will be obsolete by 55-60.
Play the way you want, don't force other people to play your way though.
Vekabe Jan 15th 2008 7:34PM
Horrible idea, the fact is that PVP players would lose out, also Blizzard would lose money due to the fact that no everyone wants to sit and do these long instances just to buy an expansion and lvl 10 more lvls, i think a "easy" mode should be introduced ( someone posted this before) that maybe the instances ( only out dated) could be done on and like 5 maned that way the content would be seen, maybie doing these instances will unlock quests or items in northrend but completely locking the players is a horrible idea, its like saying everyone has to do MC,BWL, AQ40, ONY, AND Naxx before stepping foot in outlands
Snailking Jan 15th 2008 7:38PM
Some of us don't raid, and would still like to play the expansion.