QFT. I've got 5 new 70's in greens/blues and I actually CONSIDERED hanging in there and farming PvP honor/marks at level 69 in order to be able to afford the PvP trinket at 70.

AV on Stormstrike/alliance is a lost cause, and in any other battleground my greens/blues are a liability to the team when facing a bunch of people in S2/S3.

I've also got a bunch of shammies - elemental crit specced shammies. Resilience SUCKS - they lose their mana efficiency and their dps is drastically cut.

The barrier to entry is horrible. WTB better battleground matching system kthx. I wouldn't mind if I didn't keep getting matched up with uber geared opponents after I dinged 70 just a couple weeks ago.

-Jennifer
www.v-boxing.net

Well, look at it this way. 10 matches a week in your pure PVE gear will net you about 200 points if you're outright horrible. ~1800 points for S3 and every 9 weeks (or less) you get a piece.

Do the PVP daily. 419 honor, 12 gold, and whatever the winning BG (and losing BGs prior) awarded usually amounts to 750/day minimum. In 20 days you'll have enough for S1 or Vindicator gear.

You put 3-4 hours a night into PVE- put a fraction of that into PVP and you'll see monumental returns. Trust me, it only gets more fun when you stack arena gear.

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As an aside, for those arguing PVE should be more effective in PVP, how would you feel about a S3-geared person jumping in ahead of you for raids? They made gear differentiation for a reason- 2 different ways to play after level 70. You can concentrate in one, the other, or both.

This all being said I do agree with Jennifer that there needs to be a better gear-matching system in place. It'll give people a run for their money in their respective brackets.

It's never fun being that green-geared team versus that luck-of-the-draw S3 group.

Blizz's next big project? I think so.

How can resilience kill AV for you? AV barely features any pvp at all, I know, my rogue still wears blues and greens in there with no resilience. Give me a break.

If you have T4/5 epics and go into AV, you're one of the best toons there.

Other BGs are a different story, but if my rogue in blues and greens with no stamina can do something, everyone's toon can.

That's not the half of it kuri. My crappy 1500 rated 3vs3 team played a 1999 rated team at 6 oclock in the middle of the day? We had been playing for 20 minutes with teams our rating and then BAM!

We quit que'ing for the rest of the day because of that. Where is the fun in playing a team on that level? They were completely geared in s3 (weapons and shoulders) and we had our gladiator gear on.

I say if you get to a certain rating, Ex: 1850 or 2000, you should be stuck in the que until you get a team within your range. It's sad to have to know that we could possibly be playing teams 500 points over us with full s3 now.

That's like a raid walking into kara and seeing illidan roll down on you. Just doesn't make sense.

On top of all that.... we lost like 10 points. I think that is also a bit extreme since we are winning games and getting around 14 points for them. Shouldn't we have lost like 2 or 3 points?

I can see how gear scaling might be a little hard to fix, but I certainly don't think point scales should be like this.