Two Bosses Enter: Sapphiron vs. Hakkar

Sapphiron vs Hakkar
Ragnaros vs. Kel'Thuzad
Illidan Stormrage vs. The Twin Emperors
Princess Huhuran vs. C'Thun
Today, we jump into the first of these titanic battles with the undead frost wyrm Sapphiron vs. the Troll god of Zul'Gurub, Hakkar the Soulflayer. Who shall fall and who shall emerge victorious? Read on to decide for yourself and cast your vote!

In a combat, Sapphiron will use the following abilities:
- Cleave: A standard frontal cleave.
- Icebolt: A ranged frost attack that Sapphiron only uses from the air. It does frost damage to its primary target and stuns them for several seconds as well as splash damage to targets in the vicinity.
- Frost Breath: A very high damage frost AoE that Sapphiron casts from the air before landing.
- Frost Aura: An aura that does frost damage over time to anyone within range.
- Life Drain: A DoT that (surprise!) drains life from the target and heals Sapphiron. (And be warned -- it heals him for more than it hurts you.)
- Blizzard: A frost AoE that slows movement speed if you're caught in it.

- Corrupted Blood: a shadow damage DoT
- Blood Siphon: a channeled spell that stuns the target, does damage, and heals Hakkar for about five times the damage done. Hakkar casts this like clockwork every 90 seconds. (For player raids, the trick is to get poisoned by nearby mobs -- then Hakkar's Blood Siphon will siphon the poison and damage him instead of healing him. Without this, he simply heals too much to be killable.)
- Enrage: after 10 minutes, Hakkar will enrage, greatly increasing his damage output
Both raid mobs can drain the other's life to feed their own health. And while Hakkar Enrages sooner than Sapphiron kicks into super frostbite mode, Sapphiron has more damage abilities. Who will pull victory from the jaws of defeat and who will be heading back to their lair in shame? Cast your vote below and remember, this isn't about level differences so just consider fighting styles. Results will be tabulated next weekend and the winner will move on to the final four.
Filed under: Raiding, Bosses, Two Bosses Enter






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Lucas Feb 3rd 2008 11:04AM
I think hakkar would win, he can't heal himself from saph but saphiron can't poison himself either.
Matthew Rossi Feb 3rd 2008 11:13AM
Yeah, but Sapph CAN heal from Hakkar. If you assume Hakkar can't heal from Sapph, then it's game over for him.
Lucas Feb 3rd 2008 7:21PM
Ah I forgot. Hmm maybe hakkars blood is poisoned too? Maybe that would negate saphirons healing effect?
Meira Feb 3rd 2008 11:22AM
Tough fight, but Sapphiron got more nasty stuff to dish out to Hakkar's face than the opposite. Blood Siphon is utterly useless against Sapphiron, so poison or no poison, Hakkar can't win the fight because of this ability. Sapphiron, on the other hand, has Icebolt, Frost Breath, Frost Aura and Blizzard, plus an evasive mode on flight... well, Hakkar may enrage first, but will not survive long enough to cause rampage, Sapphiron will shatter him.
Combatc87 Feb 3rd 2008 12:18PM
Hakkar just doesn't have the abilities to attack Saph while he's in the air. That one dot will keep ticking, but Saph will just keep nuking him.
LibbyKino Feb 10th 2008 8:08PM
I don't understand why people are saying Blood Siphon wouldn't work against Sapphiron... what, 'cause he doesn't have any blood? I think that's taking too much liberty with the abilities.
So Hakkar and Sapphiron both have the ability to heal, and they both heal for more than the damage they do... but I think the kicker in this fight is that we're not supposed to include adds, which means Sapphiron won't be able to become poisoned and in turn poison Hakkar. I don't think his direct damage attacks are enough to make up for missing that mechanic.
So basically I see this fight going back and forth, each boss continuing to heal, until the first enrage timer (which is Hakkar at 10mins). The fight goes to Hakkar.
X Feb 3rd 2008 12:33PM
Just because he is in the air does not mean that Hakkar cant avoid it. You presume that he cannot get out of line of sight which is kinda...bad.
Hoggersbud Feb 3rd 2008 12:33PM
Hakkar wins, because he Mindcontrol's Sapphiron into not flying or taking off, but standing their dumbly while Corrupted Blood eats his life away.
Meira Feb 3rd 2008 12:50PM
How can you mind-control the Undead, if they are immune to such magics? (The Forsaken are the exception, not the rule, remember that)
Hoggersbud Feb 3rd 2008 11:43PM
Hakkar's MC is more effective than the one mere Priests get.
Meira Feb 4th 2008 10:17AM
It is stronger than Priests's MC... but I think you missed the point... Undead are immune do MC and Fear because they have no functional brain, like elementals can't bleed because they have no blood! Simple, yet effective: Hakkar can't MC Sapphiron, even if he had all the power in the world.
Deusmortis Feb 3rd 2008 1:17PM
I've got to go with the dragon on this one. Saph can deal more damage, while avoiding more damage. With both bosses healing, it would be a long fight, and Hakkar may well live long enough to enrage, but I think it would be too little, too late.
Lobstar Feb 3rd 2008 1:23PM
An old god vs. a dragon and people think the drago is gonna win? Hakkar would win, if only because he's 10 times more badass then some random frost wyrm...
Aichon Feb 3rd 2008 1:51PM
Might want to check your lore. Hakkar is not an Old God (a la C'thun). He's a Faceless One who has assumed the title of Blood God. And while Sapphiron had a role to play in WarCraft III, as well as other parts of lore, all of Hakkar's lore was constructed specifically for WoW. He didn't exist before that, and really, Faceless Ones are a pretty small footnote in WarCraft lore since they're relatively insignificant compared to a lot of other things.
If anything, Hakkar is the random one and Sapphiron is the badass one with the history going for him.
Anyway, my vote is for Saph. Corrupted Blood's damage is minimal, and its only harm is when it spreads to the rest of the raid and starts causing more total raid damage than the spot healers can manage. In the case of a one-on-one, that's not a concern. Blood Siphon's damage is minimal as well, with the only harm being that he heals himself for a good chunk of you're not poisoned. So, aside from direct damage, Hakkar really has no way to injure Saph.
Saph, on the other hand, has loads of ways to injure Hakkar. He'd be keeping the hurt coming with his constant AoEs and auras, and his direct damage is significant. Assuming that each of their self-heals healed for around the same amount, and all other things being equal, Saph can just dish out a load more damage than Hakkar.
The only chance Hakkar would have is to Enrage before he dies, but I don't think that even an Enraged Hakkar could take down Saph in the 5 minutes he'd get. Between Saph's constant flying, the slowing effects, and everything else he has going for him, he'd be able to survive the 5 minutes and then destroy Hakkar after that. And, of course, that's assuming that Hakkar even made it to his Enrage point.
Druid dude Feb 3rd 2008 1:57PM
I see the fight going like this:
The bosses engage, the brawl starts! Saph is doing more damage than Hakkar is. Hakkars health is dropping some, Saph's is dropping a little bit too, but not nearly as much. Then DoT Heals start kicking in for both. The first 10 minutes of the fight, its like watching 2 Resto Druids duel. At 10 minutes, both bosses are at or very near full health.
Hakkar enrages! Now Spah's health is dropping a good deal faster than Hakkar's, fast enough even that Saph is not returning to full health when his DoT goes up. Hakkar is still getting healed to full health. Saph is starting to drop, slowly but surely.
However, Hakkar's DPS is nowhere near enough, even enraged, to kill Saph before he too enrages at 15 minutes. At that point, Saph is at 50% after a healing DoT, Hakkar is at 100%. Spah enrages, and Hakkar's health starts to drop at an alarming rate. But Saph is still going down. Now its a DPS race!
At 19 minutes in to the fight, Saph is just under 10%, Hakkar is at 15%.
At 20 minutes 30 seconds, Hakkar dies with Saph at 3%. Neither want a rematch.
mindranor Feb 4th 2008 2:29PM
Well said, sir.
Lobstar Feb 3rd 2008 2:12PM
@Aichon
ahh, well I've been wrong before...
Hakkar still has my vote though. I think he could beat Sapphiron...no rationale really I just like to think that...
Fel Feb 3rd 2008 3:34PM
I've yet to see either ingame [I'm just a baby hunter!] but Hakkar certainly looks meaner. And he has a cooler name. o_O
theRaptor Feb 3rd 2008 6:54PM
Faceless god > Dragon.
jaxson_bateman Feb 3rd 2008 11:18PM
Hakkar is definitely cooler. But in a deathmatch between these two, Sapphiron just has all the answers.
Btw, you 70's should get a PuG and go back to ZG... it was easy then, but it's a joke now. We cleared the place with about 15 70's in just over an hour. No mounts though. =(