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2-04-2008 @ 2:49PM
How does any of this change the fact that IBGY is a bottleneck the horde can just guard to win every time? Even if the horde starting tunnel is moved as far back in the map as it can go, they can still get to IBGY first. I think the map itself needs some redesign to even out the choke points.
2-04-2008 @ 3:14PM
Wait, so you want the alliance to get to IBGY before the Horde do?It is ridiculous how people are blind to each factions' bias:Alliance: IBGY is impossible to get past!!! (it's not, just run past the defenders instead of fighting them)Horde: The DB base is ridiculous with all of the NPCs!!! (yes, they are closer to the path than in FW, but they are still easily avoidable)The real issue IMO, is the actual design of the bases. Give Horde a moat outside the FW keep with the bridge the only way in. Also, change the terrain around SH so that you can only get past to the east of Bal. It really pisses me off when a lot of people, both on the forums and here, just complain that the other side has it better (whether it be racials or terrain or generals), and yet do not think of it objectively. All they can think about is how [i]they[/i] need to be more powerful/get more honor etc. Anyway, stop the blind QQ, and actually suggest something worthwhile to read.
2-04-2008 @ 3:30PM
@Fireflash38, I agree that IBGY is not impossible to get past. It's not uncommon to have a group of 3-5 Alliance riding straight through, hugging the side of the hill to the west of TP. The dumb ones stick to the road.As for Aid Station, the Horde can split the middle of both groups of NPC, but the dumb ones stick to the road and aggro the npcs sitting by the forge. I'm so tired of fighting the likes of Lana & Dirk.
2-04-2008 @ 3:47PM
You're obviously not from the horde battlegroups that figured out how to win AV 100% of the time. If you just race, like the old days, then yes, either allie or horde can win. But the better horde servers have figured out they can just defend the bottleneck in front of IBGY, and allie has zero chance of winning.For reference, http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/16/the-av-map-imbalance-in-patch-2-3/
2-04-2008 @ 5:16PM
@zenpunkThe Horde in my battlegroup put up a very token defense at IBGY if any at all. Most times a few will try to thwart the Alliance attack on Captain Galvanger, a few will then setup anywhere between IBGY, FWGY, and FWRH. I can't say that I've ever seen an organized defense at IBGY. It's always a race to the north and turtle only if all the graveyards end up getting taken and they're forced back to FWRH or FWGY.On a positive note, from reading some of the comments here I should be happy that both sides queue up and play. Our queue times this weekend were between 1m-4m, with 10m showing up after 2am. :)
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