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2-06-2008 @ 8:21AM
I don't think of ZA as gearing up for 25 man stuff. I see it as just the latest 10 man. Believe it or not there are players who have no intention of doing 25 man content, but they still want to do 10 man stuff. The only problem I have with ZA is that its quite hard to start in there. My current Kara team is very capable of clearing Kara but we keep getting pwned by the bear boss.I think the key with the 10 man stuff is to continue with what you can comfortably do until every one is geared up well then move on.Regarding the lore Zul 'Jin is a bigger deal for me then Illidan so it would be just as cool for me to face off against him. And while he isn't directly involved Karazan was Medivh's base for a long time. Loot comes and goes (and it's been confirmed that loot will be levelled out in Northrend), so most people raid for content. Also one of the big draws in ZA for me is the mount not being a random drop. It's down to the raid.I fully expect to be coming back to ZA once WotLK hits just for that mount. I see 10 man stuff as separate to the 25 man stuff. The big mistake with Kara for me was that the tier 4 gear was split between 10 and 25man raids. As far as guilds go it tends to be that if they can do 25 man stuff 10 man stuff gets ignored very quickly. While those that can scrape together 10 people for Kara can never finish their tier 4 gear. I'm glad we can fill spaces with PvP welfare epics but I'd prefer better planning of loot drops. Hopefully the Sunwell 5 man instance will fill in some of the Kara gaps and help those of us struggling with ZA.
2-06-2008 @ 9:35AM
This is EXACTLY how I feel. I will not be doing any 25 mans in the near future, we simply don't have the numbers, and we are a closed guild. We will run ZA when we have run Kara ragged. But I hate that you can't complete a tiered set at your level. The top tier set should be 100% in 25 mans, but there should be one 100% available to 10-man raid guilds.
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