Opening a dialog about sexism in World of Warcraft
Perhaps one of the biggest challenges of being a gamer girl is learning to deal with rampant sexism, without becoming defensive. Just like racism, sexism should not be tolerated, but how do you address it without making the problem worse? Smurphy from Burning Blade brought this up in the forums. Nethaera's response was to shut the thread down before a dialog could really begin on the subject.
Although the majority of WoW players are men, there are a number or women who do enjoy the game. Women are often important contributing members of guilds and raids. Perhaps a little known fact about gamer girls is many of us don't like to be hit on or given special favors like spots in raids. Nor do we like to be called honey, baby, or sweetie by complete strangers. We would very much like the same treatment given to our male counterparts. Women do truly enjoy the game, and should be able to feel safe and comfortable in the online environment.
Personally I live and die as a lady in game and in life. I believe that if I act as lady, I should be treated as one. One of my favorite books, The Art and Power of Being a Lady, has some excellent social advice that translates well into the WoW environment. The authors insist that modern ladies do exist. Ladies display grace and dignity. We win gracefully and lose gracefully. No whining, crying, screaming, or carrying on. Another important characteristic of a lady is true friendship. In game, we can come to the aid of our friends and should feel comfortable asking for help when we need it.
The Art and Power of Being a Lady has a chapter dedicated to relationships. Discretion and respect should carry over into the online realm. Ladies should refrain from excessive flirting and behavior that makes those around them uncomfortable. A lady knows that someone who is currently in a relationship is off limits, even online. Gentlemen, please heed this as well. We do not all appreciate your overtures and please respect our existing commitments.
As long as we do our part as ladies, we should be able to expect other stakeholders to do theirs as well. Guys, have a little respect. I'm not here to be a feminist, and no bras were burned in the making of this post. We may be girls, but we are gamers foremost. That's why we're gamer girls, not girl gamers. We can be powerful associates. We can heal, tank, and dps as well as men can. There's no difference in our character stats or ability to mash buttons. Although our armor appears to only cover about half as much as our male counterparts' it still blocks the same amount of damage.
Females do not have to tolerate sexual harassment. Blizzard's terms of use indicate that in-game chat may not be used to "Harass, threaten, stalk, embarrass or cause distress, unwanted attention or discomfort to any user of the Program." Ladies, you have the right and responsibility to report behavior that makes you uncomfortable. Since we all agree to this code with every patch, everyone has the responsibility to avoid making any violations against this code.
I don't know where to start immodest armor choices and model. Personally I'm not bothered by it, but some ladies are. Is it degrading to women players? Maybe, but it seems to fit the standard for previous video games and the overall fantasy genre. Perhaps an option to display non-hoochie-mama versions of the armor (the same as displayed on male toons) might be an acceptable solution. I don't see that happening, just throwing it out there.
The first step in resolving issues of sexism is to stop ignoring the problem. I understand that it is difficult to be proactive and Blizzard's main recourse is to take action after-the-fact. Cutting off any mention of sexism only serves to encourage it.
Readers, I do very much appreciate your comments, but please make them productive. Things like "don't play the game" or "there, there sweetie" would not be helpful. What I'd like to know more about is your experience with sexism in the game and any suggestions you may have for resolving the issue. Do men also experience sexism in WoW? Thanks!
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, Virtual selves, Blizzard, Forums
Patch 5.4 patch notes
Virtual Realms feature revealed
The Proving Grounds are coming
The latest patch 5.4 news





Reader Comments (Page 5 of 10)
Anonymous Feb 11th 2008 2:24PM
I suggest she does a little less whining and a little more making me a steak >:3
Lucas Feb 11th 2008 2:24PM
Basically, stop making bikini plate-mail and delete all female belfs and nelfs. K?
Farseer Lolotea Mar 26th 2008 9:09PM
I'm in agreement that mail should not look like bikinis. However, I'm against deleting all female elves.
Silvertusk Feb 11th 2008 2:27PM
I'm going to be completely honest here, but the problem with women today is that they act like a single entity. All girls a) must watch Oprah, b) must 'act with grace and dignity', and c) must deny their attraction to sex.
I can't stand Oprah (except for a few episodes, admittedly), I'm more of a guy than my guy friends, and I relish sex and being hit on constantly. Frankly, if you're going to get offended because someone is giving you extra favours or calling you cutesie-poo names, you're weak and don't deserve the title of 'independent'.
Basically, don't rely on other people to bat something which is easily swatted away. When people try to hit on me online, I'm just brutally truthful to them and say I don't do the whole online-thing. Though, sometimes I just tease about a bit and.. well, that's something else entirely.
What gets me (and I'm just ranting at this point) are feminists who believe girls are physically and biologically the same as men. We aren't. Embrace the differences between the two sexes, and do whateverthehellyouwant. If someone tries to stop you from reaching a goal, beat the crap out of them and prove them wrong on your own accord.
Vandell Feb 11th 2008 2:36PM
Though, I'm also polyamorous and don't believe in marriage.. so, I'm a strange kind'a basket case.
Arabelli Feb 11th 2008 2:37PM
But I hate Oprah.
I agree, there can be pockets of 'hivemind'. But lumping every female into a single catagory? Isn't that just as ridiculous as saying every guy is a sexist idiot who deserves to be shunned? You're right; you can't say 'all of group a is _____' about anyone and expect to be correct and taken seriously. So don't do it about 'all women' either.
There's a middleground, and I believe it's pretty easily found, provided you want to.
But sheesh... Oprah is just irritating. :P
Silvertusk Feb 11th 2008 2:51PM
Aye, you're right, Al. I meant "most". As in, 90% of my girl friends love Oprah and watch 'er all the bloody time. It drives me a little insane how so many people can agree unanimously - without criticism - to a sole entity like Opium.
Sounds like religion to me. Blegh!
Arabelli Feb 11th 2008 2:54PM
I wonder what it is about her? I mean, she seriously annoys the living snot out of me. And yet it's like she does have a drone army.
Just not all of us! /fights the power
Naix Feb 11th 2008 3:04PM
You sound like the perfect woman.
How YOU doin?
Silvertusk Feb 11th 2008 3:54PM
Teehee?
thatquietgamerdude Feb 11th 2008 2:40PM
About the armor graphical difference: it's always bugged me how female heroes somehow manage to get by wearing what amounts to a plate-armor bra. I mean, one good slash to the torso and it's basically over.
isadoramoira Feb 11th 2008 2:40PM
I've been playing for a bit over a year and have never experienced any adverse reaction to my gender when people find out I'm female, for real real. I've gotten sort of hit on once, rather recently, and it was unusual and amusing enough that I told in game friends about it later as a joke. My main problem with it was that I was grouped at the time, with an in game buddy that I know is a 17 year old guy. I didn't want that to set an example for him, but it turns out he thought it was pretty weird as well. I shrugged that experience off as just a run in with a creep, just as I would offline.
As for the slutty gear, the modesty option is to put on a shirt, and or a tabard. Just like in real life, you don't put on a vest with nothing under it and expect people not to ogle. Of course, I really really don't get how toons are looked at as sexual objects anyway.
KateJaneway Feb 11th 2008 2:42PM
I am rare, I rolled right into an all girl guild a year and a half ago, and couldn't be happier. My guild raids/groups with men, but for the most part, it's all women. Daughters of the Alliance and Daughters of the Horde FTW! :D
Naix Feb 11th 2008 2:43PM
"Ladies should refrain from excessive flirting and behavior that makes those around them uncomfortable. A lady knows that someone who is currently in a relationship is off limits, even online."
I am a man first and a gamer second. If I am flirted with I am going to flirt back. To not respond is not to be human.
Dusters Feb 11th 2008 2:46PM
If you really dont like the armor make a male toon? Guys make female toons all the time because they like the look of the armor on them, so do the same? It doesnt address the whole issue, obviously, but its a start.
Smurk Feb 11th 2008 2:49PM
Another point bound to piss people off even more: I doubt females are proportionately represented in top-end raiding or PVP.
That's simply opinion. I can't prove that girls are disproportinately underrepresented at the peak of WoW achievement - but I do think it trends across the whole of gaming.
So like, on a person-to-person basis, I would theorize that women aren't as good at WoW. I can't prove it anymore than you can disprove it, based on available data.
It's not really important. Males and females aren't equally good at everything, for lots of reasons. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt in WoW, anyway - probably more than I should in that I assume they don't suck, unless they give me reason to believe otherwise.
Zewt Feb 11th 2008 3:28PM
If you look at the numbers, roughly only 20% of WoW players are women, and that is probably a high estimate. So we will be underrepresented in high-end raiding because there are less of us overall. That's what we call *math*.
Smurk Feb 11th 2008 3:52PM
"Disproportinately underrepresented," I said.
As in, not along the lines of the population breakdown.
Angus Feb 11th 2008 2:55PM
My wife was joking about my female tankadin looking like a tramp. "You call THAT Plate armor?" My only response was to point out that I wear a tabard pretty much all the time. It's about the only option for those trying to not look slutty.
johnthorpe Feb 11th 2008 2:58PM
Most of the people i raid with are married, and typically both spouses raid with us. The bad female players are just as craptastic as the bad male players. The good ones are just as good. They have just as many mooching, gimme-gimme types. They have just as many pain in the asses. They have just as many drama queens and loot whores and beggars.
Most of the time, raiding is pressing one of 2-9 buttons, running from point A to avoid something, or clicking a god damned cube. It really isn't that hard, nor is it limited to gender.
I don't really care who i raid with, so long as they STFU when the RL says so, and kills the skull.