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2-11-2008 @ 1:07PM
what the hell is wrong with women? If we talk trash to them and treat them like we treat other guys, they get all pissed off, if we are nice and sweet to them...they get all pissed off. I have an idea, just shutup and enjoy the game. If you dont tell anyone your a woman you wont have to deal with anything and you'll get treated the same as everyone else, clearly thats not what you want or you wouldnt have written an article about it.
2-11-2008 @ 1:23PM
Maybe your idea of "nice and sweet" is actually degrading and creepy...Just a guess.Your attitude is exactly what is wrong with the guys this article is pointing out. You are clearly trying to treat women differently. Did you know that there are men out there who don't enjoy trash talking either? There are also women who do.
2-11-2008 @ 1:28PM
I don't suspect that when the author was asking for the same treatment, she was expecting you to slap her on the butt at the baseball/footbal game. lolThe same as you SHOULD be treating ladies differently in RL than you do other guys, you should continue to be respectful to other people in deferrance to their individual gender as will as other individual characteristics. I hope you speak differently to the 12 year olds you come accross in game than you do to your adult buddies.That does not mean that you automatically have to think that because someone is a female that their every breath has been in anticipation of getting freaky (verbally or otherwise) with you...By equality, as she pointed out, 490 defense on a female char tank and a male char tank has the same effect on crushing blows... Meaning you don't need to go "ZOMG - it's a GIRL playing WoW - I have to give her my raid spot so she will want to flirt with me!"Conversly, I have experienced women asking to be treated as equals and then not liking it... much like any person doesn't always like what they get when they get what they asked for... That's a human thing.. not a girl thing.. lol (It really depends on WHAT equal treatment is being asked for)...I think its a cool idea to get to choose the display of how the female char armor fits (although, I can't say that I like the more modest idea) >grin<There will always be SOMEONE who wears the "hoochie mama" style... If nothing else, it will be all the guys playing girl chars...lmao....
2-11-2008 @ 1:45PM
The post isn't saying anything but "Treat women with respect" something you clearly cannot comprehend. You also advocate women joining the silent majority of male heterosexual players. Sorry but it doesn't work that way nor should it. Also responding to a post with swearing is hardly an adult way to debate an important issue not only in game but in real life.As far as I'm concerned women gamers are an important part of playing WOW. Both my sisters play and often we end up questing together and prove that they can more than hold their own with the boys. This machismo and general pig-like behaviour of most male gamers is pathetic and unfortuneatly isn't reserved for women but also for those of us who happen to be gay.Just my two penny worth :D
2-11-2008 @ 1:26PM
"If you dont tell anyone your a woman you wont have to deal with anything and you'll get treated the same as everyone else" That's kind of the problem. Women shouldn't have to hide who we are to be treated like "EVERYONE" (read: men). Women should be treated with the same respect as men (yeah I know many wow players are disrespectful to anyone)....I've met many guys in-game who don't treat women differently, but I have also met many guys who make derogatory comments about women.
2-11-2008 @ 1:32PM
The second you talk on vent, things change.
2-11-2008 @ 1:44PM
"If you dont tell anyone your a woman you wont have to deal with anything and you'll get treated the same as everyone else" This isn't an option with Vent.
2-11-2008 @ 1:50PM
I think your hours spent infront of the computer screen staring at 2D pixelated characters has unfortunately transfered over into your 2D thinking as well. From your point of view, there are only 2 ways of treating 50% of the world population: treat them like innocent, sweet things, or hurl verbal abuse at them. The fact that you generalize and fail to see women and men in any other terms than cultural stereotypes speaks volumes about how shallow a personality you have in game and in real life. Personally, I dont give a flying @#$% about gender in game (sexism is the norm, so why let it get to you?). Be it racism, sexism, homophobia and anything else, you're still an asshole at the end of the day.
2-11-2008 @ 2:07PM
Hey RJ, 490 Defense is Uncrittable not Uncrushable you whazzack.
3-06-2008 @ 10:43AM
"Kanuris said...Hey RJ, 490 Defense is Uncrittable not Uncrushable you whazzack."lol... after all that, you worry about my missuse of a term...o.O
2-12-2008 @ 1:36AM
Do you really believe what you're saying? I've met more men in this game who will flirt with a female toon without knowing the players sex than you can shake a stick at. It doesn't matter if I tell people I'm female or not, I still get hit on.I am luckier than most of my gamer-girl counterparts in that I prefer Gnomes & Dwarves to Night Elf, Human, & Drainei characters. For some reason, short ones don't get hit on as much, but I'm fine with that. I still get it now and then, but it's nothing I can't handle. I've been playing MMO's since I was 12 years old, and I've gotten used to brushing off advances with grace.However, the few times I've played my Night Elf (Druid) & Drainei (Shaman), I have had MANY unwelcomed advances. From marriage proposals (kinda' sweet), to "wanna' cyber?", I've seen it all, whether people know I'm a real life woman or not.I think you need to sit down, roll a female Night Elf, and count the number of times you get hit on as you level to 20th level. I think you'll be surprised. And as for "don't play the game"....I have as much of a right to play this game without being harassed as you do. That's like telling someone of a different ethnicity "don't play if you don't want to be called *insert awful racial slur here*".
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