PvP for PvE on the PTR
by Eliah Hecht 
Feb 15th 2008 at 11:30PM
The changes just keep on coming, and at the oddest times too. The following was just unlocked on the patch 2.4 PTR: Arena gear is now obtainable in exchange for PvE tokens. According to World of Raids, Tier 4 tokens will get you season 1 gear, T5/6 will get you season 2, and the new Sunwell T6 tokens will get you Vindicator gear. You can also, apparently, exchange Badges of Justice for "all PvP gear," as pictured.What does this change signify? Yet again, Blizz is trying to open up progression. Whether this is in advance of Wrath, when this all will be relatively meaningless, or simply in response to continuing pressure for advancement from players, this is probably a change that will be lauded by those who don't already have what it gives. If you've got this arena gear already, it might seem unfair that people can get it through alternate paths, and maybe it is. But I like that Blizz keeps trying to make it easier to be versatile in the game, to not just have to devote yourself to either PvE or PvP. Players being able to take advantage of all the game has to offer is key to its continued success.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Will Feb 15th 2008 11:41PM
Finally! I dont raid and hate organized PvP, this is just what was needed for me to renew my account, the gear disparity was just gettin too out of hand but this levels the field.
Zeplar Feb 15th 2008 11:42PM
Hi Phaltras.
Thunder Feb 15th 2008 11:53PM
15124 Gold! Who has that much?
jaxson_bateman Feb 16th 2008 2:36AM
I've got 10k atm - once you've got your epic flying mount, and are at a spot in progression where you'd be lucky to get an upgrade every 2 weeks (ie. I'm at T6 atm, and drops aren't being too kind), money just starts piling up.
Chris Feb 16th 2008 12:00AM
wtf? Can I buy T4/5 stuff with enough honor points next?
Lucas Feb 26th 2008 5:37PM
You realise it would actually be faster to get the honor, right?
I can get 10K honor in a day where as I can get 6 heroic badges if I'm LUCKY.
Erika Feb 16th 2008 12:08AM
No no no. You will be able to buy them with gold.
theRaptor Feb 16th 2008 12:18AM
Pretty meaningless change, if your raid group went and did BG's you would get the gear quicker then raiding for it. The only time I can see people using this is if everyone has full tier gear and also for their off specs.
Call me when the weapons are available for Badges of Justice (which they should be as arena weapons are often better then the equivalent tier weapons).
hurfdurf Feb 16th 2008 12:21AM
I wonder how this is supposed to work with the shoulder tokens
Swarfy Feb 16th 2008 12:23AM
Stupid Stupid STUPID Idea. This may cause me to de-activate my account... *sigh*
Dahk Feb 16th 2008 9:19AM
I want to cheer since this could mean that my alts gear up faster...but I really wonder how Blizzard cannot believe it's easy enough to get this gear and why they want people who would rather PvE to have access to it.
Fanryn Feb 16th 2008 12:38AM
So. . . what's the point of this? Getting PvP gear through PvE raiding? Isn't that like taking a two hour commute for a job in your backyard?
PvP is the cheap and easy way to epics, and they're adding another way to get PvP gear?
Matthew Rossi Feb 16th 2008 10:11AM
I know people with 200 badges and nothing to spend them on. This is just Blizzard's way of giving people things to dump badges on.
Kyron Feb 16th 2008 12:31AM
so... where's my prot warrior tanking gear from honor points?
PoorPally. Feb 16th 2008 12:32AM
And then....i dont get it.
I mean,these change is great.
But then again,just shows how pointles it is to have gear
For pvp
and gear
For pve.
Instead of just having gear.
Like in Vanilla wow....yeah we had the honor gear and the tiers,but both were very similar and work for anything.
What i see blizz doing: Add ressil to all PVE gear,buff al PVP gear offensive stats...and PUFF you get gear from any source that works for any purpose.Gems/enchants can still further tweak it.
Michael O'Connor Feb 16th 2008 12:38AM
I'm indifferent to this.
There really isn't anything wrong with being able to access similar content through different means; be it raiding, PvP, or "casual" world PvE.
The way I see, if the time investment is the same, it's perfectly valid. If it is genuinely "easier" to get the same quality loot at a faster pace... meh.
It'll all be obsolete in a month anyway.
Michael O'Connor Feb 16th 2008 12:39AM
*in a few months
Whoops.
Juliah Feb 16th 2008 12:45AM
I am thrilled about this change! I have a limited amount of play time, and I often allocate it to raiding. Occasionally, though, I like to PvP, and I have no gear. This enables the opportunity for me to have a little resilience after all!
sSword Feb 16th 2008 12:48AM
This is good IMO
I really find it hard grinding honor in pve epics and I have a healthy stash of badges. I can now seriously look at doing arena without being out geared.
I raid/pve way too much to even think about slogging battlegrounds for resi/stam gear.
SaintStryfe Feb 16th 2008 1:06AM
Any time gear becomes easier to get, a part of the game is opened up to someone.
For some players, going into Kara to take down Curator for a chance is a lot more time efficient to get some excellent gloves then grinding 12000 honor and 20 WSG tokens, which can be put maybe for a boss that you can't beat as easily.
Big ups, I like the concept.