Encrypted Text: My bad reputations

Of all the things I fail at in WoW, one of my most epic failures is my reputations. Something about facing the long grind to exalted kills a part of me. Looking at my Armory, I'm exalted with exactly three factions: Sporeggar (because I wanted to be the only alchemist with Shrouding Potion), Frostwolf Clan (for the ram), and Scryers (for the offhand dagger that I replaced, like, FIVE DAYS after getting the rep to buy it.)
I blame my dislike for rep grinds squarely on the Cenarion Circle. Endless hours in the desert of Silithus for a mediocre cloak made me lazy. But there are lots of decent reputation rewards available out there, mostly for newly 70 rogues. So what are the best factions for rogues to grind?
Cenarion Expedition
This reputation is worth it to drive to revered, if only for the Glyph of Ferocity, which is the best rogue head enchant in the game. Otherwise, it's all profession stuff and druid/hunter gear -- with one exception. The CE is a necessary stop if you're planning on getting the Opportunist's Battlegear, the new, rep-based version of the old PVP GM/HW gear. This set is meant as a starter for arena newbies, or PvErs looking to try out some PvP. You need to be revered with CE to pick up the headpiece. Watch out, though -- it's going to be a long haul to get all five pieces.
Honor Hold/Thrallmar
This isn't one of the best rep grinds for rogues, although you'll need to get to honored if you want to grab the Opportunist's Leather Gloves. And considering that the gloves make your Deadly Throw silence enemies, you'll definitely want them. Other than that, Alliance can pick up the Footman's Longsword at honored, which is okay for early Outland leveling, and exalted brings both sides an excellent bow or gun.
Keepers of Time
Even though you're only able to do this rep grind through dungeons, it's worth it for the multitude of good rogue items. Honored rep gets you the third part of the Opportunist's Set, the spaulders. But the real prizes are at exalted: the excellent but unreliable Riftmaker dagger, and the PvP trinket with an added aggro drop, the Timelapse Shard. Black Morass runs can net you a ton of rep, along with the chance at some nifty items from the bosses.
Kurenai/Mag'har
One of the easier grinds, the Kurenai/Mag'har is only worth it if you really want a riding talbuk. The rest of the stuff is mostly hunter loot, with one exception: the decent pre-Kara shoulders at revered.
Lower City
You can pick up the Opportunist's Leather Tunic here at revered. Pushing on to exalted gets you the Shapeshifter's Signet, which (as the name suggests) is really better for a druid. Skip it unless you're getting the Opportunist's set.
Netherwing
Okay, we all want to ride dragons, but that's not really rogue-specific. So we'll pass by this one for now, stopping to note that the 45 stamina on the Commander's Badge can be pretty useful.
Ogri'la
It's the new Cenarion Circle, in that it's mind-numbing, confusing, and complicated enough that you need a road map to figure out just what you're supposed to do. That being said, it's not too difficult, and there's three rogue items: the mediocre Crystalforged Trinket (which is better for druids), the semi-decent Crystalline Crossbow (better for tanks), and the Shard-Bound Bracers (perfect for rogues, and will last a long time when socketed correctly.) You may also be able to create a Crystal-Infused Shiv or Crystalweave Cape while grinding the rep, or receive the rather nice Ring of the Overseer for beating the boss Shartuul.
Sha'tari Skyguard
Like the Netherwing, this is mostly useful if you want a mount. But you can pick up a fall-speed reducing cape at revered, and exalted brings you the Skyguard Silver Cross, which is a wonderful farming tool for rogues.
Shattered Sun Offensive
This faction will be new in patch 2.4, and is definitely worth it for new 70 rogues simply for the available weapons. Revered status can get you a decent main hand dagger, and a very nice slow-speed sword. But the real prizes are the exalted trinkets. (What is it with exalted and trinkets?) The effects depend on if you're aligned with the Aldor or the Scryers. The Shattered Sun Pendant of Might can proc and give you 200 AP (Aldor) or 100 crit rating (Scryers) for 10 seconds. The pendant of Resolve, however, is far better for Scryers (100 expertise) than Aldor (100 dodge rating.)
Sporeggar
Don't. You have your choice of a bad dagger or a weird cape. Unless you're desperate for a tiny spore bat, just don't.
The Aldor/The Scryers
Aldor/Scryers was the big choice in BC, and while it was difficult for a lot of classes, it's pretty darn easy for rogues. Aldor is for sword rogues; Scryers is for dagger. If you're not sure what you're going to spec at 70, the rewards for Aldor alignment are the ring Lightwarden's Band and the main-hand sword Vindicator's Brand. Scryers, on the other hand, can buy some okay leggings and the off-hand dagger Retainer's Blade. All these items, however, will eventually be replaced. A better way to make your choice is to look at the shoulder inscriptions available. The Aldor get the Inscription and Greater Inscription of Vengeance, which focus mainly on attack power. The Scryers get the more crit-centric Inscription and Greater Inscription of the Blade. Choose wisely, unless you really want to make the long trek over to the other side.
The Consortium
In a less-than-surprising development, this band of lawless smugglers carries some good rogue items. Haramad's Bargain is better for a feral druid, and Gift of the Ethereal is merely a leveling weapon, but the Consortium Blaster and Nomad's Leggings make getting to at least revered worth it, assuming you don't already have superior pants. Guile of Khoraazi looks nice on the surface, but is a little fast for mainhand and a little slow for offhand. Definitely do Consortium if you're a jewelcrafter, though -- you can make a ton of money off the patterns you purchase there.
The Sha'tar
Dang hippie energy beings. You'll need to get revered to finish off your Opportunist's set and grab the leggings, but other than that, you can pass.
What do you think are the most important reps for rogues?
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Safety Dancer Feb 20th 2008 1:44PM
ya for those of you getting exalted w/ scryer for the dagger, dont even waste your time...its garbage, i replaced it like a week after i got it.
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Krick Feb 20th 2008 1:48PM
When talking about Cenarion Expedition rep, how can you not mention Warden's Hauberk, which you can get at 62 with honored reputation. When gemmed with agility gems, it's a great piece of gear that you won't likely replace until you have access to level 70 dungeon drops.
If you plan ahead, getting rep with Cenarion is dead simple...
Before you even get to Outland, start buying (or farming with a higher alt) Unidentified Plant Parts. You need 360 of them.
Once you get to Outland. Avoid doing ANY quests that grant Cenarion rep at this point. A full list is here...
http://www.wowwiki.com/Cenarion_Expedition/Quests
When you hit level 60, go to Cenarion Refuge and hand in your 360 plant parts. This will take you to Honored.
After each turnin, you'll get a Package of Identified Plants. Open them and look for Uncatalogued Species. If you get any, save them. Don't turn them in yet.
Once you finish all the turnins and hit Honored, turn in any Uncatalogued Species you may have gotten.
Now do ALL the quests that give Cenarion Expedition reputation. Reference the link above.
By following this method and only running each of the coilfang instances once to complete the quests, it took me about halfway through revered.
More info about my early rep grind adventures is here...
http://www.tankadin.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&topic=79.0
...
Krick
Travis Green Feb 20th 2008 2:35PM
I did actually what Krick listed, killed bog lords and such for Spor rep, and collected my 360 plant parts along the way. After turning them in, and then doing all the quests, I easily pushed my way through revered.
Poxus Feb 20th 2008 1:56PM
CE rep in Outlands is not hard to get to Revered at all. I did it on a Hunter I was leveling without stepping foot in one instance.
There are plenty of quests that will give you the CE rep you need to hit revered on your way to 70.
Krick Feb 20th 2008 1:55PM
Thrallmar rep itself isn't that useful, but by doing the daily Helfire fortifications for rep, you also get tokens that you can use to buy...
Terminal Edge (thrown)
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27929
and
Mark of Conquest (trinket)
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27921
Both of which require level 62 and are some of the best items you'll be able to get for those slots until you reach 70.
Erika Feb 20th 2008 2:11PM
By some weird rip in the space time continuum i only need about 3k rep on Shatar and 6k on lower city to get what i want there. Very scary.
makishima Feb 20th 2008 2:31PM
Very nice article! Maybe you could convince your fellow bloggers to hook up the other classes as well? Maybe one for professions too?
rick gregory Feb 20th 2008 2:49PM
Ok a few things:
1) The Opportunist set is 2.4... just to be clear.
2) Don't grind rep for weapons. That's pointless now that you can get S1 weapons for honor. Go BG for 27k honor and get your MH and OH.
3) Most of the other things can be matched with normal 70 instance drops or quest rewards. For example the Spymistress' Bracers are a reward for a quest.
As for the trinkets... again, meh. Once you get geared enough to be decent in heroics run Mech and see if Abacus drops or BM for hourglass. You'll get badges too and 41 of those buys Bloodlust Brooch which is an awesome AP trinket.
makishima Feb 20th 2008 3:01PM
Granted I agree that the weapons do seem to be rather pointless, but not everyone can constantly run instances trying to get the gear they want. This stuff is more easily attained for someone who can only spend limited amounts of time on WoW and doesn't want to be "that guy" that drops out of an instance group 1/2 way through. Not to mention this stuff is guaranteed to be available from the vendors,not out of stock ( the only comparison I could think of to something not dropping in an instance) 60-70% of the time.
rick gregory Feb 20th 2008 3:50PM
Agreed. The issue, of course, is that if you don't run instances and don't pvp... how much gear do you really need? But, yes, rep is a good alternative for people who want something better in a slot and can't run instances etc. Crafting also for that matter.
JPN Feb 20th 2008 2:49PM
I still haven't replaced the Talbuk shoulders. Good stuff.
seankreynolds Feb 20th 2008 3:46PM
I assume that because you refer to the "Frostwolf" mount as a ram, that when you say "Frostwolf" you actually mean "those scummy Stormpike Guard dwarves who invaded Alterac Valley (where the Frostwolf orcs were living peacefully in isolation and avoiding the Horde-Alliance war) in search of loot"?
Oldbear Feb 20th 2008 4:25PM
For the Horde...
armi0022 Feb 20th 2008 5:25PM
In the article, it is said that some of the Opportunist's set is available at Revered, but the mouse-overs (and Wowhead) show only an Honored requirement. Someone please clarify.
Math Feb 20th 2008 7:46PM
While the Scryer/Aldor exalted weapons are replaced pretty easily you'll be rep grinding for shoulder enchants anyway so they're a pretty decent pre-raid weapon that comes easily from a rep you should be aiming for exalted with anyway.
Also worth noting, for those that are raiding, Tri Exalted with CE, Shatar and Aldor/Scryer is required to be able to use the Marks of the Illidari for free flasks. I found these savings alone to be more than worth the relatively easy rep grinds.
ashankt Feb 22nd 2008 5:58AM
As a sword rogue using the Aldor sword will last you until Spiteblade unless you can afford to get the +extra swing boe sword. Couple this with Latro's and away you go. This is of course if you don't like PvP :)
Veilux Feb 21st 2008 11:44AM
I cannot believe you did not mention Socrethar's Girdle (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30372), which is obtained through a Scryer quest chain. I know you don't particularly need to "grind rep" to get it, but it falls in your lap while you are doing so. This item was the initial reason I choose Scryer when I arrived in the Outlands as a mutilate rogue, but since then I've switched to combat swords and got my S1's in 4 days. So now I'm thinking I may have made the wrong choice.
Granted, the belt is better than any belt that drops in Kara in terms of raid DPS...so I won't replace it until I get to Gruul's Lair. Unless of course, the Girdle of the Deathdealer (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29247) decides to drop while I'm in H-BM trying to get the damn Abacus. Ugh, but that's a whole different story.
Cat Feb 26th 2008 9:44PM
Mentioning that the Opportunist's Leather Gloves were introduced in 2.4 might have saved me a flight to HH :)