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2-22-2008 @ 12:26PM
Here is a better comprehensive list of rules to follow (this is mainly feedback from all the silly posts I've seen in this thread)1 - There are bad players everywhere in WoW. Some wear purples, some wear greens. They are still bad players.2 - Heroic Ramparts doesn't require T6 Gear, or a complete set of Badge Epics. This is -why- people are running Heroics in the first place. If someone has a Green Hat on, but the rest of their gear is Blues or Purples, then excluding them JUST because of that 1 piece of gear is stupid. Again, see rule #13 - Reputation means absolutely nothing. If you think a person's skill in a Heroic revolves around their rep, you are likely bad at WoW and fall under point #1.That Druid tank who just crested Honored with Cenarion might be the alt of someone who maintanks BT/Hyjal, and just didn't have the time to do quests/ pre-heroic reps. Assuming makes an Ass out of U.4 - Heroics do require some knowledge of the instance in order to be successful, but it's not required that everyone have that knowledge. Face facts, YOU didn't know everything about how Heroic UB worked before YOU ran it, did you? Don't expect others to do the same.5 - Saying that PvP gear is bad shows that you are stupid. I'll bet people who think that follow the thought process ofsince they are "welfare epics" and take "no skill to get", then the player wearing them must be bad.Some specs like Druids (was mentioned) as well as Hunters, Rogues and Ret Paladins can get gear good enough to run Kara just by running BGs. My Hunter for example has run pretty much every Heroic, and has passed on lots of Blue and Purple Hunter gear that has dropped simply because the S1 PvP gear he is wearing is superior.I will grant you that depending on the class, PvP gear isn't always ideal for PvE; but to auto-exclude people that use PvP gear from Heroics is again, stupid.In the end, you will know very quickly whether or not your group is suited for a PUG or not. Within the first few pulls, anyone not up to the task will likely reveal themselves, especially if it's a Tank or Healer.For every undergeared and inexperienced player in a Heroic Pug, as evidenced by this thread, there appears to be an equal amount of pompous and arrogant pricks. I'd tell both of you to GTFO of my party in an instance.Lucky for me I have had decent experiences with Heroic Pugs. Have I had some lemons? Hell yeah! But I can usually see them coming before I enter, or like I said, within the first few pulls. If I find myself in such a group, I politely thank them for the invitation, and leave the party, and try again later. Heroics by nature are more unforgiving then regular instances; a single bad pull or broken CC can mean a party wipe, even against trash mobs. But they can also be lots of fun, and for well geared players who find regular instances 'easy', its the only way to go!
2-22-2008 @ 1:43PM
Best Post of this entire thread, and exactly correct.Everyone reading these posts meed to read and then re-read that over again - perfection.
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