Guildwatch: No drama here

For more stories of drama, downed and recruiting news from guilds all over the realms, just click the link below. We've got a nice full slate of news this week, so jump right in and start pulling trash, even if you don't have a full raid yet. Enjoy.
DRAMA
- I used to say that guild bank drama was the best, but I think we have a new winner: corpse camping drama from EU Draenor. Make sure to check out page 2, where the accused show up to deny everything. Hilarious.
- Tasty Beverage (who we believe is on Frostmourne, but could be wrong about that) had a nice little problem with a couple of locks who stopped showing up to guild raids. These guys had been outfitted with Tier 6 from the guild runs, but apparently after picking up 4/5 pieces each, they decided to quit the game. After ducking contact from the guild for a while, they finally sent the GM a formal resignation notice -- via forum mail. Thanks for nothing.
- Hell hath no fury like a guildie scorned: an anonymous tipster (didn't even share his guild unfortunately) sent us word that he left a raid for the first time ever, after losing on a nonsense roll to a mage who (we're told) was not a great player and had actually missed two weeks of raiding in a row. Our tipster plays a warlock who was hoping to grab his Tier 6 token (he says he's shown up to nearly every scheduled raid for months, and brought pots), but lost a roll that he says never should have happened: considering the mage was a slacker, and he's a hard worker, the token should have been his by rights. This is exactly what causes hardcore drama (our tipster even suggests he use a roll hack to get revenge, and I'll tell you that that's not the right course of action), but what can be done here? My only suggestion is to bring it up with the guild leaders and see if they can right things, but hey, it's just a game. Yeah, you deserved that token, but raid for the fun of it, not just for the gear. Sucks that you lost a roll and a token, especially under the circumstances, but there'll be more of both.
- Last week we mentioned the concept of a "Karathon," which is when you take down all of Kara all in one night. Pryderi of Venture Co. wrote us about another great idea: a "Kara race," where you send two 10man groups in at the same time, and see who can finish first. "Cross-party chat on the guild channel," he says, "gets amusing about the time they hit Curator."
- More guild lingo: Horde Defense League on Zul'jin calls all Alliance "teabags," because they don't wait until after they're dead.
- The ultimate guild drama irony: a guild called No Drama on Alleriagot bank-ninja'ed by two brothers... who were also their guildleaders. Apparently the guild itself was supposed to be a haven for people who had gotten burned by drama in other guilds. As one of the forum posters says, "that's like burning down an orphanage."
- Same old story, apparently, from Raze on Area 52: Guy starts guild with friend, guy decides he doesn't want to run the guild any more, transfers off the server... with most of the guild's stuff. I especially like the not-so-veiled threat. Oh and there's more: here's what happens when the guy returns to the guild's forums to start up some trouble.
- "DUH-RAMA," as our tipster says, in Masters of Mithril on Perenolde. The GM apparently quit right in the middle of a raid after Kael'thas was downed. Why? Because he's now attuned to the higher level stuff, so he up and joins Phase Two, to raid with them instead.
- Zaran and Omegatroll, formerly of Hostile on Malorne (who I believe we've spotlighted here before), reluctantly left the game the other day, claiming they had to get things straight in their lives and relationships. Guildies wished them well and were sad to see them go -- until their GL found out they had actually applied to another guild, Gummi Bears on Kil'jaeden. Drama, the good and creamy kind, ensues.
- An anonymous sleuth tell us that a ninja featured here on GW before, Hashbrowz, is now Adalene on Thorium Brotherhood, and is allegedly recruiting for Merciful Fate with his friend Kyeda (HB, we're told, is posting as Steakhoof).
- Relentless on Undermine-H downed Leotheras, Hydross, and Doom Lord Kazzak all in one week. Grats!
- Along with Vashj last week, Redeemed on Burning Blade-A just downed Kael, too. They're still recruiting resto shamans and protection paladins also.
- Eidolon on Baelgun-A turned Vashj into fish sticks last week. Kael, they say, is on notice.
- After an "learn and wipe" evening, Divide et Impera on EU Norgannon succesfully downed Nightbane and has Karazhan fully cleared. After that, they even ducked into ZA and dropped Nalorakk.
- Widow Makers on Scilla-A dropped Loot Reaver for the first time with just 24 people. Grats!
- Omnipresent on the Whisperwind server just took down Leotheras the Blind (who didn't see them coming), and the very next night they showed Solarian who's boss! (It's Angela, sorry Tony).
- Thirtytwo, on Hydraxis-H, one shotted HKM, Gruul, and went on to down Mag. Then, on their first night of SSC they one-shotted Hydross and the Loot Below. They want two bosses on notice, but you guys only get one per week, so it's Leotheras for you.
- Fallen on Trollbane downed Illidan. Grats! They're also recruiting well-geared raiders, so now's your chance to get in on the farming.
- Spot to mi plix on EU Nagrand cleared Karazhan for the first time, including a Nightbane one-shot with just two healers (they were learning the fight while waiting for the last healer to log on), and they also finished off ZA's bear boss on the first try. Very nice.
- Athanatoi of EU The Sha'tar downed Magtheridon last week, after four attempts, one of which didn't count because of a tank disconnect. Hate those.
- Malice of EU Hakkar have cleared Kara for the first time, with a flawless victory on Prince and Netherspite. They are headed towards ZA now, and are looking for more Dutch speakers to join them for the 25 man endgame.
- Chemistry, an EU Frostwhisper guild, is a recent merge of guilds that were almost at end of SSC and TK but lost raiders at the beginning of the year. They entered TK just the other day and cleared to Kael leaving 25 members with both vials. Then they owned Rage in Hyjal and went and got their attunement medals to enter Black Temple. They won't need them after patch 2.4, but hey, why shouldn't they get them anyway.
- Leviathan on EU Azjol-Nerub have cleared Kara with two groups and started up a third, and finished off HKM, Nalorakk, Akil'zon and Halazzi so far. Gruul is on notice.
- Extend EU Stormrage-H, after "tons of gold for respec, tons of gold for repairs, and tons of consumables," they say, finally killed Illidan Stormrage. Grats to Meester and the whole team.
- Saga of EU Bronzebeard downed Loot Reaver for the first time last week.
- Baraka on Gorgonnash cleared Gruul's Lair twice in the last few weeks and have started poking around ZA and TK.
- Insidious on Kel'Thuzad-A has downed Kael'thas and are now on their way to Hyjal and Black Temple! I believe the correct response here is: WOO!
- We first reported on PULSE of Magtheridon-H last November when they launched as an adults-only reroll guild. They hit 70 and started raiding in mid-January. In their first six weeks of raiding they have cleared Kara, Gruul and Magtheridon. They're also rocking ZA (4/6), and they're headed to SSC any day now. And they're still recruiting -- theorycrafters are especially welcome.
- Durability Zero on Silvermoon-A responded to Void Reaver's pounding with a little pounding of their own, and Loot Reaver relinquished his loots after their second attempt on just their second run in TK. Hydross dropped later in the week, so Al'ar is on notice.
- Soul Society (server?) has successfully cleared Karazhan with the downing of Nightbane. They're also looking for a few more good raiders for a second and third group -- hit up their website.
- Halcyon of Arathor has downed Illidan, which means they've cleared all PvE content! (till Sunwell) Now to get started on that PvP content, right?
- Vicimus of Twisting Nether has destroyed Loot Reaver shortly after finishing off Gruul for the first time.
- Silent Redemption on Feathermoon-A is rolling right along -- they're up to Leotheras and Loot Reaver so far. Onward and upward!
- Dusk Raiders on Cenarion Circle-A have gotten their first kill of Prince Kael'thas. Rage Winterchill, you are on notice!
- After Dark of Sen'jin-H also dropped Kael. Grats!
- Forget Your Sanity (server?) downed Doom Lord Kazzak and Doomwalker in what was supposed to be a casual attempt on a Friday night. Awesome.
- Attack the Darkness on Norgannon (winner of this week's Best Guild Name award -- RIP Gary Gygax) have dropped Supremus and Shade of Akama. Teron Gorefiend is almost down, so we'll put him on notice. Am I drunk yet?
- Chaos and Mayhem of Silvermoon beat up a poor, defenseless bird and a blind guy: Al'ar and Leotheras, respectively. What jerks.
- Modus Operandi has begun its stampede through T6, taking down the first two bosses in Hyjal this weekend. Grats!
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Rabitus Slayus from Shadowsong-A rolled right into Gruul's Lair and took the big guy down.
- Argus Imperious on Zangarmash-A downed Alar and High Astromancer Solarian this weekend. Which means only Kael and Vashj stand between them and T6.
- Indecisive of Icecrown-A downed Fathom-Lord last night. They're now 5/6 in SSC and working on Al'ar.
- Midnight Coven (Elune-H) is recruiting Level 70 raiders for 10 and 25-man content. They are ramping up their raiding pool in order to run 25-man content. So far, they've successfully completed Kara/Gruul/Mag and have made progress in ZA/SSC/TK.
- Champions of Light on Bloodscalp-A is recruiting for a new tank for Hydross (nature resist gear requested, though gear can probably be provided if necessary). They're also looking for holy priests, resto druids, and a holy pally.
- VoG on Muradin-A is an early raid guild (as in 12a-4p CST) looking for more raiders to polish off their 25 man raid team. Their two 10 mans have cleared Kara and just downed Jan'alai in ZA. They're taking all classes and specs.
- BOB of Illidan has gotten through some drama and now downed 4/5 of Hyjal in their first week in there. Currently they're recruiting Fferal druids, all kinds of shamans and holy priests, but they'll take almost any professional player into T6; Hyjal attunement, they say, is a major plus.
- Final Storm is a Spinebreaker-H guild that's recruiting for a second Kara group as well as for the 25-mans. They're looking for healers, but will also accept some tanks and DPS to get some solid membership going. They're also looking into getting a ZA run started -- apply on their website.
- Right to Bear Arms is recruiting on Smolderthorn-H: They're a recently transferred guild from Ysondre that claims to be a good mix of old-school pre-BC and new-blood post-BC raiders. They're looking to build numbers for 25-mans again, so they'll accept applications from all classes but are definitely in need of healers over anything else. Good sense of humor and ability to recognize sarcasm a must.
- Killer Monkeys Brasil is a small Portuguese-speaking guild on Demon Soul. They have cleared everything in SSC except Vashj, and are recruiting 18+ Portuguese speakers. But you must be polite, so no corrupt folks, trolls, or anything else that would make the guild look bad.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Bezulba Mar 5th 2008 4:45AM
and that's why, children, you use DKP... so you don't get outrolled on tier items by a slacking bastard that only shows up on farmnights
PeeWee Mar 5th 2008 7:06AM
Yeah, either DKP or Suicide Kings. As long as you don't use /roll to distribute loot.
Nogun Mar 5th 2008 4:36AM
"after losing on a nonsense roll to a mage who (we're told) was not a great player and had actually missed two weeks of raiding in a row. Our tipster plays a warlock who was hoping to grab his Tier 6 token"
Mages do NOT share Tier6 Tokens with warlocks
T6 Conqueror: Paladin, Priest, Warlock
T6 Vanquisher: Rogue, Mage, Druid
PeeWee Mar 5th 2008 6:59AM
Just some random whine from a lock then, I guess. *giggle* I guess he's upset about the Life Tap change.
Anonymus Mar 5th 2008 7:41PM
Hmm my guild has plenty of drama... but it's mostly in people's heads, like if any none officer says anything at all which differs from the officer's opinion he or she is 'causing drama' -_-
patrick.betts Mar 5th 2008 6:14AM
Doh! Our Illustrious GM (Tifastrife) of Soul Society forgot to mention we're an alliance guild on Proudmoore.
PeeWee Mar 5th 2008 7:12AM
Athanatoi? Weren't those the guys involved in the drama about the opening of AQ? *giggle* I'm happy I left the guild and the server. We may not be downing the biggun's yet, but we're having a blast with our three groups in lill' Kara. ^^
It's not about the loot, it's about having fun. Hell, I'll stick to Arca, just for the cutscenes!
"Aaalllriiiight!! Who ordered up an extra large can of whoop-ass?"
PeeWee Mar 5th 2008 7:44AM
As long as we're having fun it doesn't matter, does it? Whatever floats our boat.
Hory Mar 5th 2008 7:57AM
The VoG note should be 12 noon to 4pm. At least i though 12a was midnight. :) That's a long raid.
AlmtyBob Mar 5th 2008 8:15AM
90% of guild drama can be solved so easily.
Guild Bank Drama: Don't load the bank full of expensive crap that sits there. You're bound to get ninja'd sooner or later, by the GL, and officer, or a hacked account. There's a few categories of bank items.
-Crap: Darkmoon cards, recipes someone didn't want, ore/bars, etc. Just don't put it in there. If you have extra of something either post on the guild forums or just ask casually if anyone needs it.
-Consumables: Pots, elixirs, food, etc. If your tank and healers need fishing food then let them take care of that themselves. Elixirs and pots should generally go directly to the people who will be using them.
-Enchanting Mats & Gems: If the mats are coming from raids then enchant something someone needs (ugh, do it yourself) or sell them off on the AH and put the gold in the bank. There's no reason for 200 void crystals and 100 large prismatics in the bank. An alternative is to sell enchant mats and gems at half the AH price to fund raid repairs.
-Gold: Gold should be used for repairs and maybe an extra tab (why would you need more than 2 since that's just asking to get ninja'd. That 900g tab could pay an entire 25 man raid's full repair bill on a bad progression raid. No one should need to donate gold to the bank. Gold gotten from selling off raid drops (the AH or to members at half price) should fund repair bills.
The other issue is loot. Have a set system in place before ever setting foot in any raid. Either DKP or Suicide Kings. Rolling and loot council systems are total BS. So many guilds run "drama free Kara" with need rolls for awhile then hop into the 25 mans and run into issues. As an example RL buddy is in a different guild on the same server. Tonight we both went into Gruul's at the same time. Right after my guild down's HKM I see him in Shatt. "Wow, Gruul down already?" "No, the druid and priest fought over who should get to roll since the priest was 3/5 and the druid was only 1/5. So the raid split down the middle in the argument and we stopped." Now in my guild, we downed HKM, the tokens dropped, we asked who wanted them, then checked the guild DKP page to see who would get them. Took all of 1 minute, no hard feelings. The DKP system is almost completely automated by the guild site and everyone agreed to it before we started 25 mans.
Cynra Mar 5th 2008 8:56AM
The whole No Drama drama ordeal was compounded by the fact that they incorrectly accused (and promptly flamed) someone from another server for supposedly being one of the old guild leaders based on a guild tag the Armory inproperly applied to a griefer and similar gear composition. However, once the mistake was discovered a few members of the guild were rather apologetic. As someone who raids with the individual falsely accused of being one of the bank ninjas and someone who has known him for well over a year, I can say that that caused some confusion over the last couple of weeks! No one likes being dragged into drama - especially when it's not even one related to the person!
Jessica Mar 5th 2008 9:08AM
competitive karathons sounds like fun. My guild sort of does that unofficially, last night one group finished in 4 hours and the other in about 4 and a half (bad luck on Prince). I've heard some guilds doing Karathon in half that time, which is impressive.
Capitalgain Mar 5th 2008 10:31PM
We race Tuesday nights and the quickest full clear (inc. Maiden & Nightbane) is 3 1/2 hours and that was with chain pulling and a few beer breaks.
Optic Mar 5th 2008 9:40AM
Tasty beverage is from frostmane, and the locks quit because their loot system is awful.
Bogdan Mar 7th 2008 10:45PM
Yeh, that's why they got 4 pieces of T6 (both of them) before most people had 2-3 pieces. I believe they were the 2nd and 3rd with 4 piece.
Optic, I wouldn't post here if I were you. Maybe you should tell these guys how terrible you are, got kicked out of our guild for being bad, and had to resort to BUYING gear. Yes guys, he bought all his gear, attunements and everything else (t6 included).
Zourtack Mar 5th 2008 10:54AM
Hello there, My name is Zourtack long time guild officer of of alleria (the guild mentioned in the topic). And I must tell you the irony is really horrible yes, but there is more to the story then you know! Yes is in fact, there is more drama.
The original guild leader quit within 2 weeks
a few months into the guild 3 Officers left (one ninjad a pattern before doing so) because they didn't like the loot system.
3 days before the leaders ninja'd the bank and left they kicked another office who apparently knew about it.
and just on a "lol irony" note the guild leader was talking to a new recruit the day before he did it and was say how guild leaders who ninja and leave are well uhh I'll just say "jerks" and you can interchange that with a few choice words 0.-
Z~
Zourtack Mar 5th 2008 11:01AM
2 things,
one apparently it doesn't like the < >
I'm an officer of No Drama.
Secondly, @ Cynra, yeah sorry about that whole thing. What happened is a person was posting (from a diff server) and we found out he was one of the GM's. A guildie then armory'd the guild and found someone who he suspected to be the other one and told all of us. And we just assumed he was right, but yeah sorry about that whole mess.
Tseran Mar 5th 2008 12:36PM
You know, the "No Drama" concept can work, as long as you have mature players. My guild has a strict no drama policy and while we have had drama, those causing it were quickly removed and things went back to normal. If the people running the guild are serious about stopping drama in its tracks, you can do it. The closest thing to drama we ever get is when we are fighting over who has to take the 50th Valanos' Longbow.
Cynra Mar 5th 2008 12:56PM
That it was a mess is absolutely not under contest here; I feel that it was just poor form and irresponsible to flame a complete stranger on his server's forums with little or no evidence. As I was only indirectly affected by the whole thing, no apology to me is required (though that doesn't trivialize your apology and I am thankful for it, sir!). Take my statements instead as a reminder that all of us should do a little bit of research before jumping the gun. The ready availability of a server transfer has brought guild drama to new heights and leaves many of us understandably edgy; that, combined with your guild's recent predicament, left you all reeling and looking for an outlet for your rage. However, like many people, I was surprised to find a post on the forums flaming a good friend and warning our community to not trust or interact with him.
The support that the person got on the forums from our community, however, was very sweet. I
Cynra Mar 5th 2008 12:58PM
- dislike WoWInsider for somehow cutting off the rest of my reply? While not replying to the comment as I intended when I clicked the icon? Fie, WI!
That should have read: "The support that the person got on the forums from our community, however, was very sweet. I