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3-10-2008 @ 9:31AM
I currently live in china and i have asked several people about why pandarens arent currently in the game. It boils down to this: The chinese are still sore about what the japanese did to nanjing during world war 2 and Pandas are specific only to china. So what they are saying is this: They dont want to have a chinese-originating animal to be related with japanese arts. The clothes that pandarens wear are styled after the japanese, and so are the katanas which the pandarens use.
3-10-2008 @ 10:28AM
Who gives a shit what the chinese government wants? They're a soul-crushing, freedom-stomping set of thugs who masquerade as thinkers and philosophers. They murder their own citizens and they run down freedom-seekers with tanks. They can pucker up for my dwarven ass.I understand the profit motive is what drives business, but once in a while it would be nice to see a corporation set aside a small amount of its capital for "Doing the right thing", which in this case would be thumbing its nose at the oppressors. Put the pandas in the game. Better yet, put them on an island, and name that island TAIWAN or TIBET.
3-10-2008 @ 10:42AM
BLizzard cares, the got a lot of chinese customers i'd suppose...Still there has been panderen in wc3 tft, never heard of that coursing much trouble
3-10-2008 @ 12:01PM
this is stupid, so killing human is not a crime? but when it is panda then...
3-10-2008 @ 12:11PM
@JohnthorpeThose are some pretty harsh criticisms of the Chinese government. First off, while I will say that they certainly aren't a wonderful model for any country to use, there are a lot of problems, you have to consider who and what has to be governed.Population of U.S. = about 300 million with illegals.Population of China = Almost 1.3 billion. (thats 1 billion more then U.S. - lets see the U.S. maintain a stable regime of that many people using their current methods)Then we can talk about human rights, which is generally the crux of the argument for the Chinese government being some horrible monster.Who are you comparing them too? If we're choosing the U.S. it also has a long list of human rights violations. From Guantanamo Bay to participation in international tribunals for punishing war crimes... Why should China live up to these ideals of human rights when the U.S. doesn't?They have started democratizing the lower levels of government in China - and international observers have found the elections to be poorly run, NOT because of official tampering but because in many places the populace just doesn't know how an election should be run, the participants can be as much to blame as the organizers.Admittedly all the uproar over the Japanese rape of Nanjing and so on seems more to do with diverting public unrest away from pressing domestic, economic and political issues in the national arena.The main point is that many parallels can be drawn between actions taken by so-called "advanced western nations" - particularly the U.S. - and the various apparently indefensible actions of the P.R.C. Besides, since joining WTO they have become much more transparent and accountable. (also use of death penalty isn't _that_ much higher then the U.S. when looked at from a per capita POV)
3-10-2008 @ 2:37PM
Moketronics: Don't forget the recent report that the U.S. has more of our citizens in prison than China or Russia. That's more in terms of total prison population-not just per capita. There may be some serious issues with freedom in China but at least there seems to be progress there.Anyway the point a poster made about the Panderen wearing Japanese-style outfits and using katana makes the most sense to me as being potentially offensive to Chinse citizens (not sure if the government would even get involved.)
3-11-2008 @ 12:39AM
@johnthorpeI live in china because i personally consider it a better, freer place to live. I dont fear police here (be it harassing me, or pulling me over for speeding). I can walk around at midnight by myself and I dont fear being mugged. I never worry about guns, getting stabbed, or robbery. Everyone is honest and things are cheap here. It most definetly is a nice place to live.
3-11-2008 @ 2:38PM
Thanks for backing me up Ron and Retron... I read the NYT article about the rising prison population, go 1% of all Americans!Johnthorpe is clearly uneducated. Where did you learn about China? Fox News? Besides, no one with any actual "intellegence" would spell "intelligence" wrong or use the word "freer" like that.lmfao
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