Hybrid Theory: Dear engineers, please build me a walking bank

Welcome to another installment of Hybrid Theory, wherein columnist Alex Ziebart assures the world that he does not, in fact, hate Retribution Protection Paladins. In fact, he raids with a Retribution Protection Paladin. Really. He does. Pinky swear.
Bag space. The Blue Crew of Blizzard has made it very clear over the last few years that limited bag space is fully intended. It's viewed as an important aspect of game play. A mini-game, if you will. I must say, being forced into choosing whether you want to keep an item you enjoy or vendor it in favor of that new piece of resist gear that is mandatory for your raid's upcoming boss fight is the worst game ever. Sometimes little vanity items mean quite a bit, like your first epic. A lot of them are just plain neat, like the furbolg outfit maker.
The World of Warcraft has a lot of things to do in it, but a majority of those things come down to items. For good reason, too. Things feel more rewarding when you have something physical to take away with you. As physical as virtual items can be, anyway. For example, I think Badges of Justice from 25-man bosses is fantastic. Even if you go weeks and weeks without seeing 'your' items drop, you'll be gathering badges. You may not even need the badge loot, but you can at least get gems, nethers or whatever ekse to put on the auction house. 'Physical' rewards are fantastic- they make you feel good.
The WoW team's philosophy on bag space works directly against this, limiting how many of those fun things you can have. For people who enjoy collecting vanity pets or pretty dresses, this limits fun. That is bad. This situation is much, much worse for the hybrid classes, to a greater or lesser extent depending on what you play. At some point, most every class probably needs more than one set of gear if you do more than solo. Even pure DPS classes need a bit of resist gear in the end-game, or perhaps you carry around pieces with more +Hit or more +Crit or whatever else. The Hybrids, you're looking at Tank gear, Healing gear, DPS gear, Resist gear, etc etc. Not every class needs all of those sets, but many of the hybrids do.
Assuming you never wear a shirt or a tabard, you have a potential 17 pieces of different gear for each of your sets. If you're a Feral Druid, you're going to want Bear gear and Cat gear, bare minimum. You most likely also have a Healing set. That's 51 pieces of gear you will usually have with you if you're grouping/raiding heavily. If you're really min-maxing, you may also have partial additional sets for more Stamina or Expertise when the situation demands it. Add another dozen or so pieces of armor onto that list. We're up to 63 pieces of gear.
Then you have reagents. If you're in a raid, you probably have about three stacks of Wild Quillvine and a couple stacks of Flintwood Seeds. Two types of elixirs, at least two stacks of mana potions, buff food, regular food, and water. That's five slots for the reagents and a minimum of seven slots for consumables.
We're up to 75 bag slots. Just for things you need to carry with you for content higher than 5-man dungeons. With the basic 16 slot bags that everyone should have in Outland, you have five free inventory slots. I hope you didn't want to be able to loot vendor trash or carry a pet with you!
When you need to carry that much gear with you, the size of the bank is almost irrelevant. As a roleplayer who likes being able to play dress up every now and then, I still don't think the bank is big enough, but as I said, it is almost irrelevant. You can't carry your bank with you wherever you go.
There are options out there for increasing your inventory space. In my very long-winded example above, you're using basic 16 slot bags. At 70, though, you should be using at least 18 slot bags and working on 20s. This can be a pretty expensive endeavor. 18 slot bags on my home server are generally 40 gold each. Not too bad. 20 slot bags, however, are around 500 gold. You could be spending 2,000g for a full set of 20 slot bags.
I have good news!
While even full 20 slots can be terribly limiting to a gear-intensive hybrid, it won't cost you a lot of money to get them anymore. Patches 2.3 and 2.4 have been kind to us on the bag scene. In patch 2.3, Zul'Aman was implemented, and with it came the Tattered Hexcloth Sack. I'll let you in on a secret: You, personally, do not have to do anything substantial in Zul'Aman to acquire this bag. You do, however, need to be friends with someone that has.
To get that bag, you simply need to pick up the quest outside of Zul'Aman, skippity hop into an instance cleared up to the quest item, and pick it up. Grats on your new 20 slot bag! Absolutely any brand new 70 can get this quest. Your 'scrub' alt in auction house greens can fly up to the Ghostlands and get this bag.
Patch 2.4 takes the bag love a little further. There are two new 20 slot bags in the patch, though they will take more work on your part. The new 5-man dungeons, the Magisters' Terrace, drops the Sun Touched Satchel fairly commonly off of the trash mobs in the instance. Pretty straightforward.
Additionally, the heavily nerfed Magtheridon will drop a 20 slot bag, the Pit Lord's Satchel. Why Magtheridon's jailers let him hang onto his purse, I'm not quite sure. Then again, Onyxia carried a bag created out of her own skin, so it isn't the strangest source of bag space in the world. This bag is not unique, meaning you may have more than one of them. You are going to be competing with 24 other people for the drop though, so don't cheer quite yet. It may take some time to get one!
Does this solve the bag space issues? Not quite, but it does help. Bag space remains pretty limiting, especially for hybrids. These new bags do lower the cost of convenience, and it does make things a bit less frustrating. Going by the prices on my server's auction house, getting one of each of those bags will save you about 1500g. That's no small amount of money. Okay, so maybe it is pretty small nowadays with daily quests, but at least it looks like a big number!
Though it may never come due to bagspace being a mini-game and the database issues additional space may cause, I dream of a day where my Paladin can carry around all of her necessary sets of gear and a pretty dress or two while still being able to loot vendor trash. Hey, even the manliest of men get the urge to dress like a princess sometimes, alright?
Filed under: Druid, Paladin, Shaman, Analysis / Opinion, Hybrid Theory






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Super Guest Man 9000 Mar 15th 2008 7:37PM
One of the first things I did after hitting 70 on my main (druid) I leveled up my mages tailoring and started pumping out primal mooncloth for bags. I have a full 20 slot bags for my inventory for my main and I'm steadily replacing bank slots too. AND I'M STILL OUT OF SPACE IN MY BANK! I collect too many fun and shiny things.
Balasan Mar 15th 2008 7:48PM
Listen to this man. if you don't agree with him you either obviously never played a hybrid, or if you do, you're playing it wrong. I'm a feral druid and I carry 3 sets of gear everywhere I go, just in case I'm being last-minute summoned to be DPS or Tank. I've got a spare boomkin set in my bank in case I plan to go moonkin. And I bring my healing gear everywhere I go, just in case I'm doing some easy group quests that requires a healer (soloing the daily scryer assault in SMV by healing the archers and kiting the flight masters comes to mind).
In the end I only have around 20 bag space free, maximum. Seriously. Thankfully it's enough for my farming activities, but it basically means I'm not the best person for masterlootering guild stuff in raids.
I can't wait for the promised resist slot bag or thingamabob blizz said they'll add in WoTLK.
Faar Mar 16th 2008 7:23AM
Just because you think every druid needs to carry around on 3 suits of clothes at all times doesn't actually make it so.
My 64 druid's moonkin. All I care about is moonkin gear. I have a healer ring sitting in the bank that dropped from a hellfire citadel boss that nobody else needed, plus the blood furnace leather socketed healing kilt with +9 spell damage jewels in it (worn at all times as DPS pants, since I've not found anything better) and that's the extent of my alternate gear.
I wouldn't have room for complete sets of alternate gear anyway. I have five herb bags in the bank, 3 20-slotters and 2 24-slotters to allow me to keep a huge stock of reagents and potions. I wear another 24-slot herby bag on me at all times.
Maybe you need to understand that just because one plays a hybrid class doesn't mean that person enjoys every aspect of that hybrid. Only use I have for catform is to stealth around. I didn't even have any cat skills other than prowl dragged out onto the skillbar for the first 60+ levels of my druid's life, and bear had none at all.
I'm not a tank, and I'm not a rogue. Nor a healer either - my heals suck despite I have fairly close to 500 +heal already. I'm an owl, and my talents reflect that.
Now please stop being so narrowminded, let people enjoy the game the way they want, not the way you want.
Balasan Mar 16th 2008 8:26AM
You're the one being narrowminded. I'm not telling you to play this way and that - you're paying to play the game. But if you're just sticking to only one method of playing you're seriously being narrow minded about the many ways of playing a hybrid.
I don't like being a healer. I already have a paladin for that. But there are just times when you just need to heal, even as feral. An outdoor group quest for example. Take the ring of blood. You've got a good group of 5 people, but none are specced for tanking nor healing. Are you just going to wait for an hour waiting for a proper healer, or are you going to swallow your pride, put on your healing gear, and heal that fury warrior with a shield that's going to tank for you?
I'm not saying you have to. You have every right not to do so. But if you do, you're seriously showing a selfish and idiotic side of you to your group. It is an MMO game after all.
I've also said this before. All hybrids are fully capable of fulfilling whatever role the class is designed to fill, regardless of spec. Picking up a spec only allows you to improve on that particular role, but at its base you're still capable of doing everything else when neccessary.
Angus Mar 16th 2008 4:33PM
He's a dope.
A Hybrid unable to do any other role is not welcome in the other roles and so is just a poorly itemized shadow of a "pure" class.
Boomkin without a healing set is about as useful as a Warlock. Except the Warlock is better in DPS, mana, has a pet, can do more than just throw damage, and is actually wanted in raids.
My elemental set is crap, and it has around 600 SD and over 10% crit by itself mostly in blues no one wanted.
My Resto set is always on me, has around 1300 +healing and 120 MP/5. I have respecced to let the guild do another kara group and I have been the main healer.
Hybrids should be doing their thing and having the gear to help in extra roles. Pure classes complain and offer reasons why the hybrids shouldn't be as good as them with "But you can also do this." Well, if you can't you aren't even close to being a hybrid or useful.
You know, a bank alt with those extra herb bags could open bank slots for gear. Not like the herbs are always needed right away, if you can't make stuff with your current stuff, you need to fix your system.
My bank alt has a good 2-3 14 slot bags full of herbs. I carry a 20 slot herb bag. I never need to worry about having what I need as a good 3-4 minutes gets me what I need to make it.
Isa Mar 15th 2008 8:26PM
It sucks being a pack rat. I have too many soulbound quest things I dont want to get rid of. :(
Dan Mar 15th 2008 9:09PM
Isn't 2.4 adding summons to instances from warlocks? for raiders that means if you have a warlock and a mage you can jump between the raid and your bank as and when without trouble. That's got to free up alot of space right there.
Eternalpayn Mar 15th 2008 10:14PM
I have to say, that is the most genius thing I've seen posted here all day. Kudos to you for thinking of that.
Jacii Mar 15th 2008 11:05PM
I collect minipets, and as a druid, quite frankly, it sucks.
I have only three sets of gear, cat, bear and healing. I'm resto, so I a lot of my feral gear is interchangeable. I don't carry it all with me either, but the problem is really my mini pets.
I have all 20 slot bags, but I have almost 50 mini pets.
Top that with my gear, weapons, offhands and shiny baubles and my bags are full.
I have a bank alt, which I think solves a bit problem.
She's got gem bags, enchanting bags, herb bags and the rest are 18 slot. I keep all my non-BoP items there,
With the newly implemented mail-system, I can hop on and mail myself whatever I need instantly.
SaintStryfe Mar 16th 2008 1:33AM
I just had a wacky idea -
Know those stable guys? the ones that sit outside every inn in the game and some other places too? And currently only one class in the game uses them?
How about if we could store non-combat pets (obviously an important part of the game - hell, they bundle them into the collector's editions) with them?
It'd fit, It's not too hard to code in, and it's a money sink which we know Blizz loves.
This sounds like a damn fine idea to me!
Silenius Mar 16th 2008 3:01PM
SaintStryfe
One thing I always thought would be ridiculously awesome if Blizz did would be to allow us to put mini pets and stuff in the stable, and then in places like org where there is an actual stable let me see all my pets and mounts and stuff standing around in the stable area. It would be cool to go to the stable and see all the weird pets I have accrued just kinda walking around with each other. I don't think it would ever happen but it would definitely be cool.
briker Mar 15th 2008 11:39PM
This issue has been my single biggest complain with WoW since I started playing several years ago. It bugs me to no end to run out bagspace - especially as a lower level character. And I have never been more angry at Blizzard than when that developer made that post responding to questions about bagspace, and he said that he considered managing bagspace to be a "fun minigame". I actually quit for the game for awhile after that. Yes, a little emo, but I think it's an important subject that, like the OP has said, directly affects the fun you have in the game.
BenMS Mar 16th 2008 3:38AM
It is fairly emo, but the Blue Post that was made was really just confirming something we already know - that the game we all love has many many checks and balances in order to make sure no one ever has "everything". That way, you keep playing :)
Zach Mar 16th 2008 5:07AM
The mental image of Matthew Rossi in a Princess dress is... so... wrong. Curse you Alex!
NeSuKuN Mar 16th 2008 7:11AM
Hybrid engineers need a LOT of baglove. Y_Y
Kellen Mar 16th 2008 9:17AM
Wholeheartedly agree. My main is a paladin and we NEED the space to Accessorise. Engineering trinkets, 3/4 full epic sets. Then the pink and purple festival dresses, Red and Purple lovely Dresses (the red with matching hat and slippers).
Paladins need a Handbag slot.
Alltogether now. "We're Men, we're Men in Tights. We roam around the forest looking for fights! We're Men, we're Men in Tights, always on guard defending the people's rights!"
MechChef Mar 16th 2008 11:57AM
I think everyone wouldn't mind some extra bag space. But at the same time, people have been able to manage thus far. And while it may take up space in your bag if you feel the need to cart around different gear sets, be thankful that your class is a hybrid and has the flexibility to perform multiple roles.
Matdredalia Mar 16th 2008 12:43PM
I'm an Arms warrior who bounces between tanking and DPS in instances and groups more often than you can say "WTF?" I carry A LOT of gear around on me. And, I'm also one of those people who collect pets, dresses, and various other event items.
You're right, the limited bag space flat out sucks my arse.
However, the only solution I could think of, in the end, was a clear one....
My less-played alts are still in my old guild from server launch which fell apart a few years back. So, I toss the gold to them, let them buy Guild Bank tabs, and go back to my life. Yeah, I can only put non BOP items in there, which limits my options. And yeah,I have to switch to my alt to send stuff to my main, but in the end....it goes back to the old EverQuest days where, once you got to a certain level (which means a certain amount of crap) a Mule was a necessity of life.
khiva Mar 16th 2008 3:57PM
One thing I'd like to see implemented is a wardrobe bag. It would be similar to a 24- or 28-slot mining/herb/shard/etc bag, but it would only hold gear.
This would allow Blizzard to maintain the limitations on bag space, but would still send a bit of love to those who carry multiple sets, or who like to play dress up in town, or who are just too sentimental to shard/vendor their early tier gear. (that last one is me - although from time to time I do like to pop on my wedding dress, grab my scarlet begonias and a dagger, and threaten to jump off the SW bridge and drown in the moat)
On an unrelated note - I would also like to be able to name my non-combat pets. My rat answers to Templeton, not Whiskers, thank you very much.
Sky_Paladin Mar 16th 2008 8:10PM
The ability to wear womens dresses with my male toon is my sole enjoyment and reason for playing WoW. Finally, a community that doesn't judge!
I feel free! In, ah, more ways than one!