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3-16-2008 @ 8:26AM
Don't see the problem here. If you need an item, roll need. What is the point in passing and then rolling again?If no-one can use an item to improve one of their gear sets at all then you roll on a shard, you just treat it like the boss dropped a shard. Disenchantment is a last resort though, I'd far prefer someone gets an item of loot, even if they only use it now and then in their damage gear or whatever.
3-16-2008 @ 11:17AM
The point is the "discussion". If everyone just used the need/greed buttons, then locks and mages can't be discouraged from grabbing a cloak that is heavy on spirit and favors +healing - which they want for the +damage, for example.Or maybe someone would point out, "hey you already won two pieces of gear it would be nice if you could pass on one". I guess for players who have been playing this longer, using the default ui to roll need on something kinda feels like ninja'ing it.
3-16-2008 @ 1:16PM
Fair enough, in my experience though the 'discussion' takes place and then we click Need/Greed/Pass. I suppose it might be different on a particuarly contentious piece of loot, but usually in a 5-man it's obvious who the loot is best fit for.
3-16-2008 @ 5:15PM
Discussion then roll with the built-in is what I experience (and encourage) too. People who do all-pass are generally over-paraniod and stuck in the habbit from way back when the roll system didn't work well (like what, 2 years ago).It's really quite simple, you just say "hey can I need?" 90% of the time, you're the only one who has use for the item anyway. If two people have equal claim, they both roll. If one person has already got an item, most of the time they politely give the item to someone else. Frankly the last time I ever had someone ninja an item from me was before BC came out...Hell, even if the group is an all-pass group, waiting, asking and rolling need has never failed me. If you want the item, never be in a rush to pass just cause the group thinks that's how it should be done... you're only encouraging someone to ninja it from you. But also, never EVER roll on an item without asking.
3-16-2008 @ 5:18PM
Also it filters out the ninjas early.
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