Do records even matter?
There have been a few records set recently. Some are people claiming to have leveled to 70 the fastest, some are groups of players downing a boss on the PTR before anyone else in the world, while others are PvP records yet to be made. Everyone likes to say "we broke a record." It makes them feel good, gives them a sense of purpose and measurable accomplishment, and generally will put a smile on their face. Even I've done that here at WoW Insider occasionally: "Hey, we had a record number of hits that day, cool!" (No, I'm not going to say when that was, I'll leave it up for you all to comment on and guess.)With all these record breaking accomplishments, it begs the question: do they really mean anything? Does it matter if you've leveled up to 70 in the time that most people are still working on getting the Deadmines quests done? Let's take a look at what records do and do not provide.
One thing that they do provide is competition amongst a small group of players. To borrow a phrase from marketing, we'll call these players "alpha players." They are the ones that will always be the first to jump on new content, the first to let everyone know how to do it, the first to complain, and the first to get the benefits of completing the content. These alpha players are pretty hard core, and use world firsts and records to challenge each other. There is literally a whole 'nother side to the game that many of us don't ever see – hard core time based competition.
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Blizzard has some interest in keeping these players around. They often drive content of fan sites (like WoW Insider, MMO Champion, and Curse). Sites like ours provide a key role in keeping the fan base engaged over the long term – which in the end means more money in Blizzard's pocket. Good for them, good for us, and good for you. This is one area in which record breaking events matter.
The flip side to this argument is that everything we write about here, and do in game, is just that – a game. Everything is just ones and zeros, pixels on the screen. While your brother who plays a warrior just like you do (hi Logan!) might find it cool that you've hit the expertise cap and mobs can no longer dodge or parry you, or that you've just downed Brutallus before anyone else, your boss isn't likely to care. He's more interested in if you've finished the budget for the quarter.
Of course, the fact that the game is nothing but a virtual illusion brings in a host of postmodern critiques and dialogs that reality is nothing but an illusion. And then at that point a valid question becomes: which is more of a reality, the game we play or the all mighty dollar we work for in our real life jobs? Which is more, philosophically, important and rewarding: earning a million dollars, or earning a million gold?
The root of that question goes back to the base of what we're looking at: do these in game world first accomplishments really matter? Are the structures of power and history – in game – setup such that these events are going to be remembered in ten years? Or will these events just drift away into the history books, with the next record holder rewriting them as they see fit?
If you subscribe to the sudo-existential philosophy of Michel Foucault and others like him, you would say no; these events will not matter. The structures and the power holders of the game (read: Blizzard) will make it so that world records are but a foot note in the ever expanding and controlling complex that is a game you can never win.
And that fact right there, that this is a game you can never truly win – is the reason I believe that events like these don't matter. Records might exist for months or years, but somewhere along the line the people who control the reality (aka: the game) will change it so that the records become meaningless and new records must be set. You can't, and won't, ever win; negating any possibility that records even matter.
So we have two sides to the coin. On the pragmatic side, we see that world records and firsts provide essential content, contest, and support for the alpha players. However on the philosophical/theoretical side, the records don't really have any long standing meaning (and thus, it could be argued, no meaning at all).
Which view is more correct? Do these records matter, or are they just a fleeting accomplishment? Let us know by both your comments and voting in our poll!
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, PvP, Raiding, Leveling, Arena






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Welki Mar 16th 2008 8:22PM
Mathematically, your statements are completely true.
I think I'm dork for putting it this way, but here it is: When working with exponential functions, anything with an variable in the denominator goes to zero- when X goes to infinity, the little 3s and 7s in the rest of the term don't matter anymore.
Thus, the following equation:
7 + (25000000/x)=y
will eventually be approach 7 on a graph, because as X becomes infinitely large, the number 2500000 goes becomes nothing in comparison.
The same is true of records. As the game, the events therein, the system, or any other facet of records goes on forever, the original accomplishment becomes near zero- it no longer matters in comparison to everything else before or since.
Nyttyn Mar 16th 2008 8:44PM
Well our alltime record is obviously during the laptop giveaway.
Michi Mar 16th 2008 8:54PM
I'd say meaning is subjective matter. For the person who broke the record, hopefully the process offered enjoyment. For others, some might be completely indifferent towards it, some might get a incentive to break it and some might feel frustrated because they wanted to break it first. There are myriad of ways for any action to offer meaning to people who are in some way related to it, no matter what the actual action was - a thing in real life, or in a virtual environment.
One can objectively argue that nothing has any meaning. One can also argue that any action has all the meaning it can ever have - the deed is done and that's it's meaning, nothing else.
But if we get back to practical language, I just enjoy reading about these kinds of records, because it's for some reason fun to see how weird things people do and invest their effort and time in. It tells something about us humans. I also enjoy analyzing structures and relationships between various elements, were they virtual or actual. All kinds of records tell something about the structures. To some there are definite goals that offer something important to them, and by reading about these kinds of "achievements" you get better understanding on the way how the things tick.
I've probably never broken any reasonable record in WoW and that doesn't make me feel sad. If I would have, I wouldn't feel especially elated. I just do what I do if I feel like it.
RB Mar 16th 2008 8:49PM
This is a very controversial topic and as such it is mostly based upon opinion. The question of if records really matter is more of a question of, do the things you do in your daily life matter? Everything we do has a certain unsaid meaning that only the person doing it knows/feels/experiences. People in the trade chat sometimes talk about how some guilds or players are bad, but the truth is, does that really matter to anyone but the people of the guild or that certain individual?
Records only matter if it places a meaning upon the individual. Why should others deny someone's achievement if they cant do it themselves? Envy could cause someone to deny the fact that someone out-performed them, but it all boils down to the question; should people be praised for something that might not last? At least for awhile.
klink-o Mar 16th 2008 9:03PM
Ask again in five years. I think you'll get your answer
Eamara Mar 16th 2008 9:32PM
They do matter, to an extent. They aren't exactly world-shatteringly important, but they're fun. It's fun to know who set the record, who broke the record, who killed the latest boss first, etc.
And for the people doing it too. While they won't exactly get hundreds of millions of pounds for it, they'll get a sense of personal achievement. Good for them. They enjoy what they do, so go for it.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is do what you like, so long as it's fun. If you're enjoying yourself, then that's what matters.
Zouljab (EU-ER) Mar 16th 2008 9:44PM
Everytime Michel Focault is brought up in a discussion about WoW a kitten dies!
And why oh why Focault (and his likes)? Wouldnt the existentialists (Kierkegaard, Nietzche, Sartre, Camus and others) be a more obvious choice, the topic taken into consideration?
Or as an alternative (still with the topic in mind) maybe even try to apply some Social Darwinism...you know...just for fun?
Personally... I just wanna go pewpewpew whenever I deal with WoW! :D
Adam Holisky Mar 16th 2008 9:47PM
A kitten? lol.
I'm a Focualt fan bois, so any time that I can work him into conversation - and in particular a WoW article - I feel slightly obligated to do so.
Truth be told any of the philosophers you listed would be appropriate choices. I just went with who I knew best. :-)
My next task is to bring the Bauillard's (sp) work into WoW. Just need the right moment....
haust Mar 16th 2008 9:46PM
Well,
records make me think about how great this game is and not the the way.
I mean why do people try hard to achieve a record in WoW : it's because they like this game. It's only shows that they want to invest a lot of time playing it :)
On the PTR records subject [i.e. "downing a boss on the PTR before anyone else in the world"], from my point of view I would thay that "ils sont nuls et non avenus" which from french means "they don't count/matter".
Only 1st kills on live servers are the real thing :)
Synergistic Mar 16th 2008 9:56PM
Obviously the records don't matter, but you're always going to have people doing speed runs in Super Mario Bros.
Granted that is easier to watch on YouTube than leveling to 70 in WoW.
anodien Mar 17th 2008 3:36PM
I don't think they mean anything in reality, though they obviously do for the people envolved. Yes, it is fun to do so, but I don't see the point, and as other have said, those "accomplishments" don't last (couples of months maybe?).
I guess is personal. WoW for me (apart from being extremly addictive), is just a hobbie, a thing I do in those times when I'm not studying, partying, hanging with family/bf/friends, buying stuff, doing "real" things you could say xD But it IS fun for some people to "make records", is perfectly logical.
Thander Mar 17th 2008 12:27AM
If you want to think about it that way, no records really matter in the long run (WoW or otherwise). I think the records will matter but not until Blizzard stops developing WoW. When WoW stops changing, the records that were made will be remembered by some of the people that played.
By the way, I don't think much of that speed run when he's comparing himself to Joana's records which were made pre-2.3. Essentially, no one has tried any speed runs or any public ones after 2.3 came out so anyone could have posted a time faster than Joana's and called it a record.
It's not a real record until it has been tested over time.
Zarzuur Mar 17th 2008 7:51AM
Also it is a completely different record if someone has been boosted up in groups and instances.
The powerlevellers like Joana, etc are still the best because they have completed it solo, playing in the way other players get to 70.
mattarin Mar 17th 2008 12:51AM
no, no one really gives a shit who does what before or faster then someone. i mean i don't give a shit who does what or if i do something.
Mihn Mar 17th 2008 3:21AM
Records, while impressive, only matter to the people trying to break them.
-Mihn
Gloath Mar 17th 2008 5:43AM
Does the Olypics games matter (yes i compare WoW with The Olympic Games)? Does top-sports matter? Does The Guiness Book of Records matter?
If you don't care, it doesn't matter. If you think it's fun or interesting, it does matter to you.
*At the end what does really matter?*
Kaylek Mar 17th 2008 8:26AM
Ah yes, a question posed to the readership of WOW Insider, made up primarily of disgruntled casuals who complain about Nihilim.
imtraum Mar 17th 2008 8:44AM
I personally don't care about breaking records, but I know it gives some people joy and I can't argue with that. It it makes you feel good to blast to 70 on a new realm before anyone else makes it there, good for you. No way in hell I'm going to do something like that, but I don't have a problem with others feeling the drive to do it.
Ernoldsame Mar 17th 2008 9:28AM
I suppose it all depends on the weighting of the word "matter". It obviously does matter to those who broke the record, as well as the other people trying for the same record (if applicable)
Personally, it doesn't matter to me that someone can level to 70 in 6 days or whatever, but to the person who set that as his challenge - who am I to tell them that it doesn't matter.
With regards to the "world firsts" - I am intrigued to see how quickly the top-end guilds breeze through any content that is available. I also like to keep an eye on the best guilds on my server (a fairly non-competitive PvE server) and how far behind these firsts they come.
Fair shout to those who strive to beat these records and kill bosses first. If it was my guild that had killed Illidan first, I would probably have been quite vocal about it to my fellow WoW players, but maybe no-so-much when I was down the pub!
Ahoni Mar 17th 2008 10:26AM
There is no central body governing records. All we have are opinions and epeen stroking.
For there to be a World Record at anything in World of Warcraft, we would need to have some sort of records body. Each sport has a governing body. There are record keeping agencies that record stats. There are official rules of what is "regulation" play. None of these exist in WoW. All we have is ego stroking.