Forum Post of the Day: What type of music do Azerothians make?
Acerba of Cenarion Circle started a pretty fun discussion the other day on her server boards: What type of music would typify various races and cultures of Azeroth? Sure, we all have our soundtracks for when we get tired of the in-game music, and the in-game music itself often has various themes that show again and again music to represent various concepts, but thinking about what music your character would listen to or what sounds you might here around a bonfire at Razor Hill (Well, besides L70ETC) or in a fine mansion in Silvermoon City is a really fun exercise. I'm one who often creates soundtracks for my PnP and MMORPG characters alike in order to understand this, so I find it a useful exercise for us roleplayers, as well.So what would the cultural music of various races sound like? Tauren, to me, are the easiest to start out with. Looking around their villages and Thunder Bluff, you can see the Native American influences. Even their cultural beliefs and Shamanistic rituals reflect it to some degree. As a result, I can see their music fitting very well as well. I am sure many a Tauren Brave has wooed himself a mate with the Tauren Flute, and I imagine that the Drum Circle is an honored part of the festivities at many a Tauren council or gathering of the Clans.
Dwarves, to me, are definitely users of the Bagpipe. I can definitely see a bonny Wildhammer lass dancing to a highland reel, and when the War of the Three Hammers went down, I am certain the Bronzebeards marched forth with their pipers playing Ironforge the Brave.
Now Trolls are already a pretty musical bunch. You can even see their drummers drumming away in some villages. Tribal drums are certainly right up their alley then. I'd also venture to guess that the Darkspear might drag out the Steel Drums for all those rocking beach parties they must have.
Gnomes love tinkering with machines, so I have a feeling they'd make music with them too. Since they're also pretty quirky, I'm thinking we might get some synthesizer music that would be worthy of Devo. Maybe we'll even be able to get those cool red hats as a drop in Heroic Gnomeregan. Of course, they could also just go straight into Techno. How about a little Shake That? We also know that Rohan the Assassin is looking for a job in the Gadgetzan Discotheques. Do you think Gnomes and Goblins compete at DJing with as much fervor as they do at Engineering, maybe?
From here, the music, at least for me gets harder to pin down, but you can still brainstorm some ideas and come up with some amusing or insightful thoughts. Humans, I think, would be the most likely to produce bands like Dragonforce. Really, they're probably the only ones cheesy enough to do it (I mean that in a good way, totally!). Of course, I could always see a battalion of Human Paladins marching to war with a little Wagner. On the Horde side, everyone knows that the Forsaken are Metal. We're talking really metal here, the type of growling, screeching Death Metal that would barely sound like music to most. Actually, they probably have an advantage listening to it too, since their eardrums are half rotted away anyway.
So what do you think? What type of music do you expect various races and cultures make and listen to? Can you think of specific songs that sum up certain races as well?
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SaintStryfe Mar 24th 2008 1:42AM
Night Elves would have natural sounds, lots of woodwinds and strings. I suspect the vocals would be rather haunting and melodious. It would sound a lot like new age music.
Gnomes would have sounds of machinery, quirky tunes with the sounds of their cultures in it. Their music would sound a lot like Japanese Pop music I think.
Dwarves would have fiery drinking songs, lots of rhythmic claps and stomps. I would suspect they'd sound a lot like Russian folk music.
Draenei are a wandering culture. Even their voices sound like Gypsies. I would suspect a lot of Draenei instruments would be easy to carry and you'd have a lot of wind instraments, though not likely woodwinds. It would also I suspect be a sad catalog, as their story is pretty much lost wandering and loss until this point of the story.
Humans would have a lot of musics - but the most popular would sound like Tavern songs, I'd think. They'd be rowdy and rambunctious and be very celebratory. There'd also be a catalog of very sad music, given the fall of so many human kingdoms.
Blood Elves would sound the most like rock and roll - addiction brings out that sort of music. It would be fast and loud and flashy I'd expect. It would also not be very deep into the culture. I have the idea that music would be considered unimportant in Blood Elf culture.
Trolls would be heavy on drums and very rhythmic. I'd suspect to hear a lot of great party music coming from Troll villages. I'd also suspect troll singing would have a lot of call-and-response in it (if you've ever heard the song "Minnie the Moocher" from the movie "The Blues Brothers", that's what I mean).
Undead I think would be quiet, and contemplative music. They have an indefinite life span to consider things - that is not music that leads to death metal. I'd say something in the vein of Beethoven.
Orcs would sound like trolls, but more horns then drums. I would also suspect that battle songs, epic poems put to music and the such would be popular in Orcish culture. I also think it would be a much more one-way method, so no call and response like the trolls would have.
Tauren would sound like indigenous culture musics - similar to what we get from Australian Aboriginal winds, Native American hide drums and African Aboriginal singing. For some reason, I keep on thinking of Canadian First Nations peoples when I think of Tauren musics.
kevin Mar 24th 2008 1:55AM
i listen to the same song before every boss fight. On my Fury Warrior, it's Emerald by Thin Lizzy, on my Spriest, it's London Dungeon by The Misfits.
Ametrine Mar 24th 2008 3:28AM
Ever heard a Blue Man Group concert?
So very Gnomish.
Argent Mar 24th 2008 4:05AM
i'm pretty sure some industrious gnome has invented the azerothian equivalent of a moog synth by now, so their stuff would prolly sound pretty much like wendy carlos' 'switched on' series of records. :)
Calaana Mar 24th 2008 5:24AM
I wish people would stop using ETC as a version of azeroth music.. it's ABOUT the game, not FROM the game; yes I'm aware it was in the files, and shown outside shat at the dark moon fare a while back - this was not lore, it was adding something purely for the enjoyment of the player base.
Nizari/#8 is spot on the money as far as I'm concerned.
Gendou Mar 24th 2008 5:57AM
The thing is, it wasn't a one-off: L70ETC hangs out on a balcony in Silvermoon when they aren't playing at Darkmoon Faire. Sorry, given the number of other 'anachronistic' devices and concepts that pop up in lore, I think one just has to accept the fact that 70ETC is part and parcel with the rest.
segrada Mar 24th 2008 7:43AM
Trolls definatley play reggae... Bob Marley style mon! Tas Dingo!
Ravenswing Mar 24th 2008 7:56AM
The Forsaken would be Goth Rock and Emo, surely.
Regarding the 'inappropriate technology' arguments... Azeroth has teleporters, so I think a custome engineering project to build an electric guitar is not beyond some mad goblin. However, there is a fairly easy distinction to make between bands such as L70ETC and music as made by Joe Zombie in his hovel outside Brill. Joe probably cannot afford a 'Finder Ethercaster' and has to make do with his grandmonther's old banjo.
The various cultures probably have multiple types of music, with the possible exception of the trolls and taurens, and maybe the orcs and dwarves. All the other cultures have hierarchical, city-based cultures, and those tend to produce two distinct styles of music: the one thought of as cultural music, and the one everyone outside of the court listens to. Orcs and dwarves may or may not work like that since their upper hierarchies may be closer to the spods at the bottom, in outlook at least.
Most humans, for example, I see spending a lot of time doing hillbilly music ('Deliverence' anyone?) and folk tunes (wandering between 'Country', the stuff with some guy wailing at you with a hand over his ear, and the kind of thing they play at village dances where half the village wakes up the next day wondering who the person beside them is).
But up in Stormwind Keep, the young King gets his growth stunted once again as he is forced to listen to more chamber music "written especially for his majesty." Some guy named Sal Eary probably works constantly to produce boring symphonies. Bolvar is working to import a promising young tauren composer, Beet Hoofen, in a desperate attempt to liven things up before his brain totally attrophies.
Rimelight Mar 24th 2008 8:24AM
For a comparison with "real life" music I always imagined the belf males would be pretty big into glam/hair metal or 80s metal like Skid Row, Wrathchild or Xtreme.
For a comparison with more chronologically pleasing music within the game world Belfs always struck me as being an amalgam of traditional Oriental music (such as 16th century Japanese music) mixed with more Western instrumnts, I guess an underlying, fast drum beat with a melodic piano and lots of western and oriental woodwind and strings (Hocchiku, Biwa, Sanshin and Nohkan mixed with flutes, pan pipes etc) with the oriental instruments taking centre stage for the main verses or for the chorus.
Hideto Mar 24th 2008 9:24AM
Since I've never rolled an alliance char, I thought I'd look at the horde and what I hear in my head when I think of them in terms of music.
With trolls, I can hear a myriad of music from zydeco, to Charlie Parker (I love to think of trolls running around with A Night in Tunisia blaring) to Django Reinhardt. Also, I could imagine them well represented by reggae. I have a troll shammy I've been working on (slowly) and I can really imagine him running around out in the barrens grooving to Exodus by Bob Marley with maybe some Peter Tosh and Shabba thrown in.
With the Undead, I hear a lot of mixed types of Goth.. from Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy even some of Nick Cave's old band "The Birthday Party." Also, I can associate some good old classic and new prog with this race. From bands back to King Crimson all the way up through Radiohead and currently The Mars Volta.
Orcs - I think about anything from classic bluegrass with a LOT of fiddling (yea, I can see them Hammerdancing to that!^^) to late 70's classic rock like Molly Hatchet and Lynard Skynard. For some of the more groovy orcs, I could see them getting themselves swaying to some Grateful Dead.
The Tauren, I think a lot of classic Native American music, to African tribal music and even the music of the Sufis like Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, probably the most well known Qawwali singer on the planet. In terms of rock & roll, for those younger tauren whipper-snappers, I can hear them digging a band like The Flaming Lips. I think they'd appreciate the fact there is a lot of joy in their music along with the kooky sonic structure.
Blood Elf's are my personal favorite.. and I think the reason my first and current main toon is a belf is as soon as I saw them when creating my first toon, I thought !!Jrock!! The androgyny and combination of strength and "pretty." X Japan is probably one of my very favorite bands to listen to when playing WoW followed closely by Gackt.. I especially enjoy hearing songs where he uses a a heavy thread of classic Japanese music and sounds woven through the rock. When I am playing, it just resonates with me. XD
Retron Mar 24th 2008 1:05PM
My main is Forsaken, and I often listen to Arch Enemy while playing...songs like Nemesis are practically Horde anthems in my mind.
Other than that, I'm such a big fan of the in-game music, I can't really think of anything that would be better. I mean every race has really good theme music, I love the twisted dissonance of the Undercity theme, they quirky whimsy of the Tinkertown theme, the primal chants of Orgrimmar, and the tribal digeradoo and drums of the various Troll villages, etc. The haunting cello of the Blood Elf zones is particularly well placed also, just says 'classical fantasy'....anyway, I love the Warcraft music (going back to War3) in case you couldn't tell!
Ashwin Mar 24th 2008 1:43PM
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Very interesting insight but what I think you fail to realise is that the dances have been chosen and assigned far more arbitarily than the cultures,
They are direct copies off known dances.
For example according to Wow-wiki
http://www.wowwiki.com/Dancing
Alliance races
* Human male - John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever |
* Human female - Los del Río - "Macarena" |
* Night elf male - Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean" |
* Night elf female - Alizée - "J'en ai marre" | Inspiration
* Gnome male - Origin and name unknown, earliest confirmed sighting is also MC Hammer's "U Can't Touch This" last dance in the video, as he walks up the stairs. (The dance clearly does *not* come from Caddyshack.)
* Gnome female - Salsa
* Dwarf male - Kazatchok, better known as the Cossack Dance (Russian Folkdance), also some Saturday Night Fever moves
* Dwarf female - Irish Step-Dancing | Irish Step-Dancing Example
* Draenei male - Daler Mehndi - "Tunak Tunak Tun" |
* Draenei female - Belly dancing based on Colombian singer Shakira |
[edit] Horde races
* Orc male - MC Hammer - "U Can't Touch This" | Image:Youtube logo 18x18.png Inspiration Video
* Orc female - Juvenile - "Back That Azz Up" | Inspiration Video
* Troll male - Capoeira, Brazilian martial arts | Inspiration Video
* Troll female - Shakira - "Whenever, Wherever" |
* Undead male - Metalhead. Headbangs, plays air guitar, and jumps around.
* Undead female - Goth-style dance (sometimes called the "weeping willow") |
* Tauren male - Noodle dance / Raise the Roof / Peanut
* Tauren female - The Electric Slide | Image:Youtube logo
* Blood elf male - Napoleon Dynamite | Image:Youtube
* Blood elf female - According to the Burning Crusade Collector's Edition DVD, the blood elf female dance is made up of excerpts from various Britney Spears videos.
Hence I think the inspiration for the racial music can come from both culture and dances and also one more source, in game music. Especially the theme music for certain areas.
Here is what I think can be used as indicators from in game sources.
Humans- Stormwind theme, Darkmoone faire theme.
Dwarf- Dwarf brewfest theme
Nelf/Belf- Lament of the highborne
Nelf- Darnassus, Darkshore, Ashenvale themes.
Belf, ES woods, Silvermoon theme.
Tauren: TB theme
Orc: Ogrimmar, Nagrand and SH themes.
The SH theme really gets me, along with the atmosphere really gives a feel of the old horde.
Troll- Echo Isles, Se'jin village themes.
Gnomes-Gnomeregan theme
Dranei- Shattrath, Exodar, Azuremyst, Bloodmyst themes/
Gnomes- Gnomeregan theme.
Obvious but a guide nonetheless.
I also feel for some reason that the elves would play music in a greco roman style, with belfs tending more to Classical pomp while nelfs go more for nature Paens.
Undead would for sombre/powerful classical, think Bach, beethoven's 9th and so on.
Humans in game have a very european medivial feel, I feel their music would go towards medivial/renaissance fanfare and pagentry.
Dwarves would go celtic or eastern european or both,
My 2p.
Retron Mar 24th 2008 2:19PM
I assume you meant Tinkertown theme for the Gnomes instead of listing Gnomergan twice ;)
But anyway yeah, as I posted above, I agree that the best guide for what the characters would listen to is (gasp!)...their in-game themes! Crazy concept of course, but I think the music composers did alot of carefully-researched planning to get exactly the most appropriate cultural soundscape for each race.
The dances seem a little less relevant in some cases...I mean from an RP perspective, most Orcs probably wouldn't ever dance...period...so that allows the dance to be totally ridiculous. Dwarves on the other hand seem likely to be doing their folk dancing after a few drinks at any of the many inns that play medieval party music, so that's pretty straightforward. And the Trolls...come on, they're already dancing to audible tribal drum beats in several villages. Are people suggesting that music should be substituted with something else?
chrissedoff Mar 29th 2008 3:03AM
tuvan throat singing would work well for orcs