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3-31-2008 @ 5:00AM
I haven't really looked into this, but if they're removing crushing blows then warriors will be all but obsolete as tanks. One of the very few advantages warriors had over druids was that druids could recieve crushing blows. If it's taken away then there's no real reason to use a warrior tank anymore. Druids simply have way more mitigation and health. I knew the devs mentioned they were going to be removing crushing blows but it still upsets me. If this goes through then it's the last straw for me. I'm sick of warriors being pushed aside when we sacrifice so much more than druid tanks and afterall we are supposed to be the best tanks in the game. There's no reason why a hybrid class, and it doesn't get anymore hybrid than druids, should be equal to or better than a prot warrior at tankings. It's totally unfair and I won't stand for it.
3-31-2008 @ 5:41AM
Catform druids are lapping up your tears like milk.
3-31-2008 @ 8:53AM
Um, who actually ever said that Prot warriors were supposed to be the best tanks in the game? Where has this idea come from? What makes warriors so special that they have to be singled out as the only 'proper' tanks?Warriors can do more than tank y'know, they can also do very good DPS so they are a tank\dps hybrid. Paladins are tank\healer hybrids, and druids are tank\healer hybrids (seriously, you ever seen a druid taken to the raid solely to DPS?).All 3 tanking classes are hybrids, and no single one is supposed to be the 'proper' tanking class.
4-03-2008 @ 2:42PM
Without it you can afford not to take shield specialization, re-gem for stamina and threat generation, etc... Warriors will not be obsolete if you know your class.
3-31-2008 @ 8:54AM
"I'm sick of warriors being pushed aside when we sacrifice so much more than druid tanks and afterall we are supposed to be the best tanks in the game."Who said you were supposed to be the best tanks in the game?And why act like you aren't a hybrid too?Last I saw a Warrior not in prot spec was one of the 2 classes best suited to Arena and most of the time they do very well in PVP or even in PVE.Warriors are a great tank. You want a reason to bring a warrior instead of a bear?Spell reflect.Shield wall.Last stand.Mocking Blow.Shouts.Bear got any of those besides demoralizing shout?Bear have anyway to add HPs during a fight to deal with spike damage? No, they can heal a crappy amount at the cost of a bunch of rage slowly.Bear got multiple ways to grab aggro back? Nope, 1.Bear have a way to reduce all incoming damage to a tiny fraction of normal to give the healers a chance to catch up?Bears have a way to gain aggro on spellcasters by simply making them eat their own shots and so they avoid all that damage?Ever have a bear tank Kael in TK? Nope. Won't happen. Not even Paladins are wanted for this because the fight is just that much safer with a warrior.Until this patch bears were fighting to get threat against certain mobs. Now at least every creature can bleed. Before you could sunder armor mobs bears couldn't put their best threat generating debuff on and it was much easier to maintain threat.All this and warriors still act like they should get more stuff on a platter. Try looking at all your upgrades in most slots and wondering how you are going to make the defense required to not be hit by a crit. You forced to get PVP gear to tank?(FYI: I don't play a Druid)
3-31-2008 @ 10:00AM
I wuv you Angus, have my bear cubs!Look, each of us tanking classes have a different specialty. That is the thing that makes us _different_ not _better_ than one or the other. Pallies can take and hold more mobs more reliably than either Warriors or Druids. Warriors are all gogo Gadet with thier spell reflect and Shield walls and such so are more suited for those encounters with lots of o sh*t moments. Bears have huge pools and armor pools to take those crushing blows and and not be a PITA to heal. I think people like Pavid up there still complain about how big Druids health pools are because they don't understand fundamental class mechanics b/t the three tanking types and why Druids need that health buffer. Warriors and Pallies have tools and mechanics to keep from getting crushing blows. Druids do not. Warriors and pallies have panic buttons. Druids do not. Druids are built to just sit there and take it. If we don't dodge it, that's where that big ass health pool comes in and lets us look back at em and /giggle. People like Pavid should really become educated and stop being so biased...
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