Shattered Sun Offensive exalted reputation pendants make some regret their faction choice
While Blizzard has made some steps to homogenize the playstyle of the Horde and Alliance a bit with the whole Paladin/Shaman swap, they've also done a bit of experimenting in the Burning Crusade with allowing people to make choices about certain paths, namely the Aldor and Scryer factions.
While patch 2.4 has bought as an "end" to the Aldor/Scryer rivalry lore-wise, the mechanics remain the same: You cannot enter the other side's tier without being attacked, you can't use the other side's bank, and the item and shoulder enchant vendors will still only sell to those with proper faction. In addition, there's a new twist to the sides from this patch: At exalted reputation with the Shattered Sun Offensive, you can purchase 4 different neckpieces that have seperate bonus that depending on whether you're Scryer or Aldor.
Shattered Sun Pendant of Acumen is a spell DPS necklace which has a chance to give you 120 spell damage per 10 seconds if you're Aldor or cast an Arcane Bolt for an extra 350 damage or so if you are Scryer. In what would seem to a bug, the proc works on almost any action, which means if you have an enemy targeted while buffing yourself, you can accidentally pull them with an Arcane Bolt proc.
Shattered Sun Pendant of Might is a physical DPS necklace which has a chance to give you 200 attack power for 10 seconds if you're Aldor or throw out an Arcane Strike (similar to Acumen's Arcane Bolt) if you are Scryer. The Scryer proc is currently a pain since it can work off Sap, thus canceling out the Sap immediately.
Shattered Sun Pendant of Resolve is sort of a melee/tank hybrid type of necklace which has a chance to give you 100 dodge rating for 10 seconds if you are Aldor or 100 expertise for 10 seconds if you are Scryer.
Shattered Sun Pendant of Restoration is a healing necklace which has a chance to give you 220 healing and 74 spell damage for 10 seconds if you're Aldor or cast an instant heal for 618-682 damage if you are Scryer. It should be noted that the procs will work off any tick of a HoT as well as long as actual healing is done.
So while these necklaces all look pretty sweet at first glance, there's been some complaints that the Aldor procs are all clearly superior to the Scryer procs in almost all situations. In other cases, some Aldor are saying they wish they had access to that sweet expertise proc off the resolve pendant.
I don't mind so much that there's differences between the factions. I have 3 70s, one of which is Scryer and two of which are Aldor, and I've definitely seen the differences between the factions. On the Scryer tier, I step out of the Inn, and I have a tradeskill vendor a few feet to my right and a repair vendor a few feet to my left. On the Aldor tier, I have to run over to the other side of the tier to repair, and have to fly down to Lower City if I need to buy some Rune Thread. There's also a definite advantage to going Scryer as a spellcaster so you can score the very sweet Scryer's Bloodgem. Paladin and Warrior tanks might end up going Aldor for the Vindicator's Hauberk. So in this case, the necklace is just one more thing to look at when making a choice.
The problem comes in when you can't make that choice any longer. Many 70s who are now at exalted or grinding slowly towards it have made their choice and are now max exalted with their chosen faction, and the lowest dregs of hated with the other. So for them to now see these necklaces and decide they'd rather have the other side's procs isn't that clearcut of a choice anymore. They'd have to go back and do some serious grinding. In that case, it's a little bit difficult to expect them to just accept that they're Aldor and the Scryer proc on their necklace is a bit better for their chosen play style, or vice versa. I'd say this has been an interesting mechanic in concept, but in execution, it may be too much to ask that people who have already made a choice before they even knew the necklaces would exist be made to deal with it.
In the end, I hope we really do get less into Aldor and Scryer types of splits and into the classic Horde and Alliance splits when it comes to Northrend. At least then the choices (besides that silly Seal of Blood) are mostly cosmetic and lore based. I'd really rather not have to choose whether to ally with the Scarlet Crusade or the Argent Dawn in Northrend. After all, everyone knows the Argent Dawn rules supreme.
Filed under: Patches, Items, Analysis / Opinion, Lore, Factions






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Milktub Apr 7th 2008 9:14AM
"The problem comes in when you can't make that choice any longer."
Solution: Do the repeatable quest that allows you to change faction, then grind your way up with the others.
Zali Apr 7th 2008 9:22AM
OH MY GOD!!! Dude, some people have jobs, and using a bot to farm is against the rules of the game. IF you skip all of your raids if you pve or your bgs and arena's if you are more pvp, and don't spend any time doing any other daily quests, that would only take, oh... about... ummm... forever.
Tyranor Apr 7th 2008 9:49AM
If that's the case, will not having the greatest neck piece in the game really impact you that much?
The only people who will truly be impacted by this problem will be people who really want to tweak out their toons to the max, and they will be more than willing to go through the grind. Whilst the rest of us might feel a slight twinge of regret in the face of the other factions superior procs, I think we've all looked at the other factions items and felt slightly jealous at times. An important goal of the whole opposing faction thing, and least the way I understood it, was to make sure that not everybody had the same reputation bought pieces, because they we're the best that could be bought.
anonymoose Apr 7th 2008 11:30AM
This is the most idiotic solution I have seen in a long time, and the follow up that only the most min/max people would even care is ridiculous. Tell that to a rogue whose Scryer pendant just broke his sap.
Dah Apr 7th 2008 9:17AM
Yea, this is truly sad. My main is a mage and I can just see this necklace proccing when I sheep something particularly nasty.
Nick S Apr 7th 2008 12:25PM
word - as soon as i heard that it had a chance to proc on a sheep cast, i knew i could never wear it until its fixed, at least not anyplace there's a chance i have to sheep anything.
come on, blizz - an item that has a chance to break your own CC? disappointing.
J0ust Apr 7th 2008 9:19AM
I'm a Scryer warrior tank...I'd sooner take the dodge rating proc than the expertise rating, my expertise is already capped. Unless I'm missing something fundamental (always a possibility!)
Still, nice to know where my druid's loyalties will now lie (level 64 and not chosen her faction yet).
Chronic Apr 7th 2008 11:16PM
I would guess you're probably expertise capped for dodge, but not for parry?
In that case it's still going to be a useful threat proc.
Spiritofire Apr 7th 2008 9:18AM
From what I hear the caster neck (Scryer versions) Prot is bugged and has a really low prot chance compared to the Aldor version. Which really makes me thinking of grinding Back to and reroll aldor.
roger3 Apr 7th 2008 9:56AM
@Spiritofire:
Just an FYI, the word is "proc". It's short for Process, a term that came from the MUD days, when an item might have an ability that requires processing from the server. Lag would sometimes cause the process to be delayed, resulting in phrases like "That took /forever/ to proc!"
Not trying to be a jerk, just thought you might be interested in the etymology of the word.
bumble Apr 7th 2008 10:45AM
I was under the impression it is short for Programmed Random OCcurance
Brian Arnold Apr 7th 2008 12:09PM
I agree that it's programmed random occurrence. I've never heard the "process" version, and I was a MUD developer for years. We always said proc for Programmed Random OCcurrence. :)
Lars Apr 7th 2008 2:19PM
It's always been "process" to me. I started playing MMO's back when they were called MUD's. Everyone on EQ in the early days said it meant "process" too.
Richie Apr 7th 2008 9:33AM
Bull-plop!!!
Scarlet Crusade FTW.
Zali Apr 7th 2008 9:38AM
Seriously, as a druid that specs either healer or boomkin, these items seem totally nutty. Obviously I wouldn't wear the spell DPS while geared for my ToL, but the Resto pendant doesn't seem all that special. A 3 stack of lifeblooms already ticks off at close to 700 for me every second. One more tick isn't going to be that big of a difference. I'd much rather have the bonus healing +76 damage. WAY better.
And the spell damage pendant, Acumen??? How is an arcane bolt useful when I'm Soothing or Hybernating an animal? Aldor got the Dev Love on this one. Scryer seems to be taking it up the exit.
Freelier Apr 7th 2008 9:40AM
One question for the Scryers out there. If you cast a spell on your focus, where does the proc go? Can you always sheep your focus and not worry so much?
RogueJedi86 Apr 7th 2008 9:58AM
So is this a case of the Scryers "s-crying"? *snicker*
Dunwich Apr 7th 2008 10:12AM
The Scryer melee one is nice, but I doubt I'd bother with it. I'm not regrinding my faction reputation, and I don't like the idea of Sap automatically breaking itself.
It's swank and all, but I'll probably plump for the PvP Epic Neckpieces.
Clem Apr 7th 2008 10:18AM
The day the Wrath of the Lich King releases (around Christmas shopping time?) is the day this neck piece becomes dated, and Aldor/Scryer rep becomes useless.
Krazen Apr 7th 2008 10:18AM
wow talk about aldor buff+, now i really am hating scryer seeing as i just got exalted.