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4-11-2008 @ 10:05AM
Yes, the Mario kart version of WoW is great for casual players with attention spans 2 minutes long. The game is complete crap for everyone else.There is nothing challenging left at all in WoW. The quests have been watered down to nothing, gear is handed out like candy, all for the sake of the lazy. Casuals arent casual, they are lazy. I work, I have a social life, I raided 6 and 7 days a week. I actually made an effort. Yes, I went there... I said effort. Dont have time to raid? Then you are in the wrong game. Dont have time to grind? Then you are in the wrong game.Laziness has killed what was once an amazingly good game.
4-11-2008 @ 10:20AM
Do you not see the amazing irony in your post?It appears YOU are in the wrong game, sir.
4-11-2008 @ 10:30AM
Casuals aren't lazy. We just don't have as much time to play the game as you do. I have an incredibly busy job and two toddlers that demand my full attention from the time I get home until the time they fall asleep, which is usually around 10:30. That leaves me 2-3 hours of WoW time a night, during which I usually don't even like to commit to an instance due to the fact that my kids usually wake up at some point, demanding attention, and I wouldn't want to leave an instance group in the lurch. I look forward to more dedicated playing time down the road as my kids get older, but for now, I make the most of the time I have. For you to say that this is the wrong game for me, I think you're wrong, obviosuly; I love it, and I enjoy playing it. And clearly the makers of the game have decided that you're wrong, because they are tailoring the game to make it increasingly fun for players like me, while still offering more substantive rewards for players like you who do lots of raiding (assuming you do.) Sorry to read such a biased opinion as yours.
4-11-2008 @ 10:42AM
Time for you to move on then. Bye.
4-11-2008 @ 10:45AM
Your post is epic fail.Not everyone has the proper life circumstances to commit 4-05 consecutive hours to raiding. Fortunately, unlike preceding MMOs such as Everquest, there's more to do in WoW than just be a hardcore raider. Much more. Enough even to keep "dedicated" casual players like myself continually coming back for more.Lazy, my ass. I am either commuting or at work 12 hours a day, five days a week. I have a new wife and am in the process of trying to get my house sold so that we can move and cut down my commute time. Most nights I have a maximum of 2-3 hours to devote to WoW, but I'm on it every single night completing daily quests, leveling a profession, questing an alt, etc. Would I like to do more? Of course. But laziness has nothing to do with it.
4-11-2008 @ 10:46AM
Wow, Gazoo - talk about demonstrating your ignorance in one fell swoop... Not all of us have the ability to do raid 6 or 7 days a week; for example I have to leave for work at 6.30am and get back at 8pm - as a result I often only have time in WoW to do some dailies or the occasional quick instance during the week, and maybe something larger at the weekend.Does that make me lazy? No - it means that I do have a life outside of WoW, for better or for worse.Does it mean that I'm in the wrong game? No. I don't recall there being a system requirement on the box saying "Must raid for 6 to 7 days a week". You must remember that the majority of WoW players probably could be classed as casual; only a small percentage are the hardcore raiders running BT and Sunwell regularly. As such you should not be dictating who should be playing the game or not; you are the minority.A shameful attitude.
4-11-2008 @ 11:11AM
@Gazoo:I work 40 hours a week, I have a husband, a house that needs cleaned, a yard that needs mowed, and all the other fun stuff that comes from being a married landowner.Yes, I have spare time in the evenings. Yes, if I wanted to, I could "make the effort" and be at raids 3,4, even up to 5-6 nights a week. But.. at that point, isn't raiding sort of like a second job, just one that you don't get any money for?It isn't "being lazy." It's different priorities. I so happen to think that someone in your situation (a job and a social life) shouldn't be "wasting" their life raiding 6 nights a week, but I don't come on here and spout that kind of crap. In fact, if you took score, I'm betting that the casual crowd is overall much more polite and friendly than people like you, who seem to think you deserve a medal for spending all your free time playing a game.I think "Casual WoW" is a great way to unwind, especially if you are like my husband and I and schedule one night a week to do a 5-man with our RL friends (who live across town, and with whom we regularly do non-WoW things). I love the new dailies (I usually do them in the mornings before work, it's a fun way to wake up), they got my protection warrior a new sword and I'm about 5 days away from exalted and a new shield. All in all I think this patch has been great for us "casuals" and I'm pleased to see that Blizzard seems intent on producing more content in the same vein =)
4-11-2008 @ 11:37AM
*yawn*, try harder troll.
4-11-2008 @ 12:52PM
"Casuals arent casual, they are lazy."Really? Try telling that to the Managers of all the responsible adult gamers who work 40+ hour weeks.You should probably also think before you /whine ... Er, I meant /say. Sorry. Reflex.
4-11-2008 @ 3:31PM
Gazoo,What amazes me about your post isn't your vitriolic comments, but the continued presumption by you and others like you, that WOW has been ruined by (X). If hard core PVP aren't complaining that the game is ruined by hard core raiders, then hard core raiders are bitching about welfare epics and how the arena mentality has ruined raiding. And if the PVP'rs and Raiders aren't foaming at the mouth about each other, then they are spitting nails at casual players, who are probably annoyed by the hard core players. Of course, RP'rs hate everyone who doesn't RP for screwing up their psycological state of mind while playing, and everyone else thinks RP'rs are already screwed up psycologically and probably need help.Everyone is looking through their own version of rose colored glasses and it's really very silly.The most incredible thing about WoW, and the thing that keeps me signing in every day, is that it can wear so many "hats." If you want to PVP and be the gank king or queen of all time, then WoW has a couple things that you can do to get your fix and keep you busy. If you prefer the challenge of getting 25 people to work together on a singular goal, even though only 15% of you will get lucky enough to get a piece of loot, well WoW has a place for you too. If all you want to do is fish, then guess what? WoW has that one covered to. The great thing about WoW is that there is spectacular variety. If you are bored of one thing, then are fifty other things to do. That is why there are 10,000,000 people playing. Just because there is content for someone with a different preference in play than you, doesn't take away from the content that is available for you and your play style. Raiders pissed about welfare epics seem to forget that those epics take months to acquire a full set, just like their Boss drops, and they seem to forget that they aren't really that useful for raiding anyway, and vice versa.So what if the Sunwell quests drop a ton of greens. They're all lvl 67 and 68 greens, which means they're nothing but vendor/DE items.Why don't you pick how you enjoy playing your game of WoW, and let others pick theirs. There is plenty or room in Azeroth for everyone to have a good time. Here is a phrase that you should say to yourself a few times until you memorize it. "It isn't all about me. It isn't all about me." Just keep saying that to yourself like a mantra, or until you get over yourself.Full Disclosure: I raid Kara, ZA and Gruuls most weeks. Half my epics are from Raid, the other half are S3 Arena gear. My favorite thing to do though is questing and working on trade skills which is more of a casual play style, although I can't claim to be a casual player since I play about 30 - 40 hours per week. So, PVP & Raiding & Casual. Yes, you can do it all.
4-17-2008 @ 1:11PM
I don't believe that you had a social life if you raided properly for 6/7 days a week. Especially 7 days, did you fit a night at the pub in during a toilet break or what? And you can't have had time to socialise between raids, because if you raid that much you have to spend all the rest of your free time grinding money for pots, or for food, repairs, upgrades, gems etc. Or at least this was my experience.Either you are jobless, or friendless, or now both. I did the raiding 6 days a week thing, it's not for me, and I think that people that do it are fine. If people don't want to make WoW their ENTIRE life then they aren't lazy, just reasoned and measured. I found the balance hard, so had to quit for a bit.
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