Gruul scaled down to 8-man raid (not really)
by Zach Yonzon 
Apr 15th 2008 at 2:30PM
The self-described semi-hardcore guild of 35 people believe that their accomplishment can be duplicated by any equally-geared (they're currently progressing through Sunwell Plateau) raid with the proper set-up. Snookiwooki also mentions that since they won't be attempting Gruul for a while, guilds are more than welcome to beat the record. With entry-level 25-man raid content now doable with a mere 8 people, the winds of Wrath of the Lich King seem closer than ever. Watch the video here.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Lab Monkey Apr 15th 2008 2:38PM
"semi-hardcore". Props for the delicious irony, intentional or not.
Angus Apr 15th 2008 2:43PM
Anyone doing Sunwell is not Semi-hardcore. They just don't realize they are hardcore.
If they truly aren't that hardcore, they are machines. Machines that are far too good to be real humans and are able to take over the world.
I for one, welcome our new machine overlords...
wyrd Apr 15th 2008 5:25PM
Binary solo!!!
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peaglemancer Apr 15th 2008 2:50PM
I once downed Ragnaros with nothing more than my 3 trusty Barov servants and a carrot on a stick. Sadly my "print screen" button at the mechanic that night, but let me tell you it was epic.
Oldbear Apr 15th 2008 3:26PM
I once killed a toad with not but my bare hands...
KateJaneway Apr 15th 2008 3:42PM
You guys made me lol at work D:
Nick S Apr 15th 2008 3:33PM
yeah, we've been pugging gruul - we can go in with first timers and one-shot HKM and two- or three-shot gruul. this is still impressive, though, just because there's gotta be a lot of dps output in them thar dpsers to beat the one-shot timer.
MechChef Apr 15th 2008 3:35PM
I'll say it, I'm impressed. I and 24 other scrubs are still somewhat challenged by Gruul.
Callandra Apr 15th 2008 3:39PM
Wowwiki suggestes you need raid-wise DPS of 6667 to down Gruul before he starts 1-shotting tanks.
Figuring 2 healers (0 dps) & 1 tank (300 dps) you need 5 people to put out about 1,300 DPS. Brutallus (the tier 6.5 DPS race boss requires 26k DPS, nearly 4 fold increase over Gruul.
Math - the # of characters on DPS is less than 1/3 of a normal 25-man raid. target raid DPS is 1/4 of what they need at their gear level.
Conclusion: next challenge please.
Charlie Apr 15th 2008 4:08PM
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What? Plain english please.
Anyways, I can't tell the setup they used. Two tanks, two healers, 4 DPS? or 1 healer? or 1 tank? Idk.
P.S. 6667 DPS is considering 2 tanks (i'm assuming). If you have one tank, like in your setup, then the hurtful strikes will mean your tank is going to go down faster.
Sephirox Apr 16th 2008 5:22AM
They killed Gruul on growth 20, this is the challenge.
A tank with kara-equivalent gear cannot go past growth 15 even if heal-spammed.
Merc Apr 15th 2008 3:42PM
Now if they 5-manned HKM on the way in I'd be really impressed...
Charlie Apr 15th 2008 4:10PM
if they used a mage war druid warlock healer, then it could be done.
Thats prolly the setup they used, I can't see what they did though.
Mage, Warlock, Ele Sham, (DPS), War, Druid, Healer, Healer? Idk.
Charlie Apr 15th 2008 4:13PM
Nvm i see Druid, Warlock, SP, Hunter, Sham (assuming ele?), and three others. I can't tell what the three on the left are. =(. One on far left is prolly pally or priest.
Krug Apr 15th 2008 11:07PM
Looks like composition is hunter, druid (feral OT), warrior, paladin, warlock x 2, shaman (healer), and shadow priest.
I actually looked at the video and they are shuffling group composition throughout the video. I didn't even realize you could do that while in combat, but I am guessing that is a trick to maximize the shadow priest's mana regen, and the DPS boosting cooldowns like bloodlust.
Zach Apr 15th 2008 9:57PM
Composition adjustment is done in raids all the time. It's part of raid leadership strategy. Swapping in for spells like Mana Tide or Bloodlust, swapping out dead raiders, etc.
Lyrael Apr 15th 2008 10:12PM
Right at the end of the vid in the credits, it lists their group composition: 1 Warrior, 1 Shaman, 2 Warlocks, 1 Hunter, 1 Shadowpriest, 1 Druid & 1 Paladin.
Personally, I found this to be extremely inspirational and something that I'd like to even come close to in our own guild (fairly new with not much experience ... yet)