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4-20-2008 @ 11:58PM
As has been said, your progression or lack thereof may have an impact on your chances of getting in, but it is not the sole deciding factor. With the TBC beta, I was in a VERY casual guild (the best we ever did was 4/10 in Molten Core and all but Hakkar and Jin'do in ZG), but I can think of several members off the top of my head who were invited to the beta.On the flipside, I can think of reports of whole guilds getting invites, simply because of how far they had progressed. Blizzard has, in the past, made no bones about the fact that they use high-end players to balance their content since those players are most capable of spotting weaknesses or flaws in the mechanics of the systems.So, wait, see if it comes. Don't beg anyone. Don't bother changing your playstyle at this point. And when it comes, be absolutely sure that you're not giving away your account name and password to anyone or anything besides the WoW client itself or the Manage Your Account section of the website.
4-21-2008 @ 3:37AM
I don't think a "VERY casual guild" would have been able to do any bosses in Molten Core, or beat almost all of Zul'Gurub. Really casual guilds can't get the 40 or 20 members together to do raids. Casual guilds would/could do 5-mans at the most. Doing 20-man and 40-man dungeons isn't casual. Casual is a word that's overused, and in improper context.
4-21-2008 @ 9:29AM
Normally I would agree, except that we never had them down consistently, and it's not like we were the only guild filling out those raid rosters. We did 4/10 in MC once. After that, we never got more than 2/10, and even that only happened only once or twice before we stopped going to MC altogether, even though the guild existed for many months after that.Same deal with ZG. We couldn't field a full team by ourselves, but we got about 2 bosses down consistently for months, occasionally getting lucky and doing 3 or 4. Then, we had some great progress over a couple of weeks and made it to Hakkar. Once. Never saw him again while I was in that guild, since the best we ever did after that run was beat only 1 boss.I get where you're coming from with the use of the word casual, but I would almost term your use of it "hardcore casual", that is, beyond casual. I know it's a large segment, but I would still consider a guild that takes a stab at a dungeon and gets nowhere significant before basically giving up to be a casual guild.
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