But putting arena rankings on BG gear is not the solution for this, a better, automatic determination of someone being AFK is.

For example if after 15 or 20 minutes in a BG you have done no damage, no healing, or not accomplished any goals, you are not contributing to the battle and deserve to be automatically afk'd.

S3 stuff is still good.

I am 100% behind this. If people want decent pvp gear, something that will get them in the door, grind your 150k honor and get your S1 gear and Vindicators.

If you're a druid and hunter, haha, you don't need gear cause you're fucking OP. I've played many 1700 druid/hunter teams with trash bags for gear (and probably only beat that OP team cause of their gear).

If you have a semi-decent set up (War-healer, double-cc/dps, etc) just put in 50 games a week. Learn your opponent comps, do the time. It's not too hard to get to 1700 (hell, if I can :P)

This is just like the old days of BG pvp.

"Just like the old days of BG pvp"

Cause everybody knows THOSE days were awesome and TOTALLY misses the almost 24/7 grind that was necessary to advance to higher levels back then. Oh yeah...toootally awesome.

Personally, I dislike arenas and resent the fact that it now seems Blizzard is going to force me to play them to get pvp gear. Yet another area where they're trying to force me to arena. When're they going to get it through their heads that most people don't play their MASSIVELY multiplayer online game to do 2v2, 3v3, or 5v5 contests?