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4-28-2008 @ 12:07PM
Angus said...
Okay, we apparently have to get some misinformation fixed now.
This is getting absurd.
Weapon speed is important for Enhancement Shaman but people quote the numbers without knowing why and it is frustrating.
Here's the reasoning.
1: Weapon DPS is calculated by take the damage range (average it) and speed and getting how much average damage the weapon does within a second. Pretty simple huh?
2: Slower weapons do more damage. See #1? Yea, if you swing 3 times for every 2 of a different weapon with the same DPS, you are swinging for less damage each swing.
3: Stormstrike does weapon damage. Every 10 seconds we hit with the normal damage of the weapon. If it is a faster weapon it does less damage with this attack.
4: Windfury also attacks using weapon damage (and extra AP) when it procs. Having the highest possible damage range matters then.
5: There is a 3 second cooldown on Windfury. Having 30% flurry along with this means that we swing at 1.82 with a 2.6 speed weapon. Therefore it procs, there is a single swing and 3.64 seconds after the proc another swing happens, which is now eligible to proc.
6: If you have enough haste going on that you are seeing a 1.4 swing timer you won't care about lost windfury proc uptime as the white damage is making up the difference.
What this all means:
Dragonmaw has a base damage range of 172-320 and a 2.7 timer giving it 91.1 DPS. Vanir's fist has 180-335 and a 2.5 swing timer for 103.0 DPS. See the difference in damage range? Very little. Both get 1 swing in before WF CD is up.
The lower DPS weapon is almost equal to a faster weapon for Stormstrike and Windfury purposes.
The weapon speed is just a way of showing the damage range.
As it stands the proc on dragonmaw/dragonstrike makes those weapons very nice for DPS and if you don't have the badge fists yet it makes them a very good option instead.
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4-28-2008 @ 12:32PM
Talquir said...
Note: A 2.6 weapon does not attack at 1.82 with 30% haste, but at 2.0. The calculation is:
Speed * (1 / (1.3))
not
Speed * (1 - 0.3)
Common mistake.
4-28-2008 @ 12:44PM
hellshire said...
Assuming the procs stack, it might just be the second best enhance shammy weapon combo, right under dual siphons.
4-28-2008 @ 1:21PM
Angus said...
Best weapon combo for Shaman is 2 S3 weapons.
badge fists X2 is next highest barely edging out the syphons.
Talquir: So that is what was throwing my numbers off. I was watching my weapon speed on the character sheet and things weren't adding up right. Thanks, good to know.
4-28-2008 @ 3:01PM
Daniel Whitcomb said...
Angus:
I was aware of the reasoning for why Enhancement Shamans generally go for slower weapons, but I figured that a more indepth explanation of exactly how enhancement shaman DPS works would be more of a subject for Totem Talk than a quick news post on a change to the Blacksmithing tradeskill.
Thanks for the clarification though!
4-28-2008 @ 3:50PM
Angus said...
It was a nice way to say it but it irks me to see people attribute the speed thing to windfury when it is a lot more complicated than that.
Sorry my spleen got bent out of shape.
4-28-2008 @ 4:00PM
Daniel Whitcomb said...
Oh, don't worry about it. It's a good quick and enlightening guide.