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4-29-2008 @ 10:46AM
I face a similar problem to many here. I am one of the leaders of a guild that I would say is casual-moderate. We have half people who really want to max character potential, and the other half whether they don't have time or do wouldn't even know where to start if they did. Now some of these players I have leveled form the mid 20s all the way to 70. Got them geared and into Kara and after a full epic set and a gillion man hours of hey go get hat mace or lets get this quest item. Im still stuck with a jackass in all purple gear that is MT that goes whoa cool that raid boss just crushed me ahahaha what is going on again. Why do we put ourselves through this. It is obvious to me now that without some kind of progression I will probably just stop playing. Does that mean that its time for me to look for a more hardcore guild so I can progress? I switched to leveling alts and it has been fun, but being a Guild Leader you cannot just log onto an alt and do your own thing. The tells never end or you hear about so and so leaving the guild. My whole comp went down and had to write zeros to my HD (35 hours) and then re-install everything and spent 4 hours of in-game time working on my interface. I was close to quitting WoW as people did nothing but invite me or ask for help the whole time I was working on interface. Then have the gaul to berate me for not coming to help. I helped EVERYONE! and now it gets me nowhere because all the people who "owe me one" left for progression guilds. My server Mannoroth has multiple guilds downing all Sunwell bosses, so it is one place where Hyjal/BT is on heavy farm. I just was whispered last night by a former guildy who "has lots of 70s on another server" (never confirmed) that I had leveled from 60 up and geared through kara gruuls etc. He was a young punk who would blow up at others who weren't doing what he thought they should be doing. He was a warrior who refused to tank for the guild when we had none and eventually was kicked from the guild for his attitude. Of course he whispers me to show of some his new T6 and to talk about how just downed ilidan. Im pretty sure I am teaching some noob how to d/l omen or some dumb shit. How do I get skilled players on a server where anyone with skill who actually cares is in BT or is just like me stuck amongst noobs or extreme casuals. Wannabees they want all the loots, but do not want to do anything to get them? Do I have to abandon my guild? What could I offer you if you were in all T4 or better if my guild is only barely able to field a 25-man? Do I have to find 30 players who are partially Kara geared and gear all of them up and keep them all together and then make sure nobody outprogresses anyone so that the only thing left for them is to leave the guild?
5-05-2008 @ 3:35PM
ShafeNutS --It seems like you're getting burned out. Are you the only officer in your guild? Perhaps you should delegate some of the raid work to your other hardcore members. We have a small guild but we need 4 officers just to handle 25-mans.Set aside specific time to "help people." If anyone has a 5-man quest or instance or something they really want help with, start doing it at the same time every week and refuse to do it the rest of the time.It sounds like you really aren't having fun the way your guild is set up. If it's between you leaving your own guild or putting the work in to make it more fun for yourself and everyone else, I'd say put the work in. Keep everyone in the loop, and give everyone the chance for input, but lay it down that you're stressed and tired and you aren't having fun, so some things need to change before you end up quitting WoW. If your guildmates are really your friends, they'll help. If they aren't, they'll gquit, which isn't the end of the world.Talk to people privately to prep them for the changes, too.And good luck.
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